I liked him on This Week at times - and his pre-election leader one-on-ones were absolutely fantastic.
Gove says in his letter to Benn that it was commercially sensitive information - potentially related to government contract or tender, but that's just [my] own suggestion.
I can't begin to list the reasons why this is a shocking idea.I think a reasonable approach to the 2nd ref idea, would be to specifically call for a dual referendum and GE at the same time. The argument of “people are sick of voting” falls apart if it is tied in with a GE, something which everyone actually wants once No Deal has been averted.
It also removes the issue of people who desire a certain Brexit outcome, voting against their party desires, because of that. Making it so lab leave voters could vote labour & leave, as opposed to BXP or Con would be the most sensible approach.
That said, it’d probably benefit BXP & Cons more, but I also think it’d give a remain victory.
The only conceivable reason I can see for allowing No Deal on a 2nd ref, would be relying on the majority of Leave voters thinking it’d be ridiculous to go for that. A very stupid gambit, and would probably work better having a “shitty” deal instead so they think it’d BRINO basically
So then what, Remain vs Leave with or without a deal?The only conceivable reason I can see for allowing No Deal on a 2nd ref, would be relying on the majority of Leave voters thinking it’d be ridiculous to go for that. A very stupid gambit, and would probably work better having a “shitty” deal instead so they think it’d BRINO basically
But yeah, 2nd ref can not have No Deal on it at all. Just ridiculous to even countenance such a thing.
It’d have to be Remain vs whatever Deal is available, whether that’s a newly negotiated one, or the old WA. No Deal just can’t be allowed to happen. A bad deal will already be bad enough, no Deal at all will be catastrophic.
We didn't start the fire.3. 50% drop in HGV processing. 2-3 day delay
4. Transport delays
5. Energy price increases
6. Medicine and blood supply shortages
7. Food shortages + panic buying
8. Financial services are fucked
9. Data protection will take years to sort out
10. Law enforcement distributed due to data sharing
11. EU citizens are fucked
12. Gibraltar lol
14. Local distribution from border disruption
15. Something so bad they had to redact it
16. Insurance payments delayed
17. Poor people lol
18. Chaos in Ireland
19. Angry fishermen and smuggling
20. Adult social care is fucked
Then (and forgive me for sounding stupid), that ref could only take place if Boris gets an extension, which he said he won't do. If Labour gets into power, I see getting a deal, and I really don't know if he'll go for a ref about that deal.It’d have to be Remain vs whatever Deal is available, whether that’s a newly negotiated one, or the old WA. No Deal just can’t be allowed to happen. A bad deal will already be bad enough, no Deal at all will be catastrophic.
If Leave voters aren’t happy with that, then to be quite frank, we really shouldn’t give a damn. If they want people to die to fulfil their ideals they really aren’t worth bothering with.
That said, I think most Leave voters, were happy with any deal before it was whipped into a frenzy by the ERG twats who were basically No Deal from the start.
He has to get the extension unless he resigns
So the only thing they hide was the part that is more specific and would make people sweat a ton. Kinda like what Funky Papa said!
As Beefy pointed out, Boris is legally bound to request one. There is a bit of uncertainty about what would happen if he refuses to comply, but the general idea is that unless a deal passes before 31st of Oct, we’ll have (expected) until the end of Jan to resolve it all.
I can only just about manage Boris being MP for Uxbridge.
Wasn't May in contempt of Parliament a couple of times and it amounted to nothing at all?
My memory is hazy, but wasn't being found in contempt of parliament what forced May to publish some documents or other about the withdrawal agreement?
Oh right, she said she would publish the legal advice after losing, but then didn't.Wikipedia said:On 4 December 2018, the UK Government was found in contempt of Parliament for the first time in history on a motion passed by MPs by 311 to 293 votes. The vote was triggered by the government failing to lay before Parliament any legal advice on the proposed withdrawal agreement on the terms of the UK's departure from the European Union, after a humble address for a return was unanimously agreed to by the House of Commons on 13 November. The government then agreed to publish the full legal advice for Brexit that was given to the Prime Minister by the Attorney General during negotiations with the European Union. However, this advice was never published in full.