- Oct 25, 2017
A thread but basically the info from today is apparently outdated or with some omissions, especially around Gibraltar
"Govt seems to concede the EU isn’t going to be nearly as badly effected as us. Talks of “small number of cases” where the EU will be negatively affected as us (in those areas, docs say, they might want to strike side deals) "
Watching now, and Kwasi Kwarteng completely avoiding answering whether Boris could survive if the UKSC found that prorogation was unlawful, and therefore that he lied to the Queen. Then he get's touchy, when he's asked what Boris does if he cannot get a deal, because the law says that Boris must get an extension.
Bahaha, thought it'd be something along those lines.Watching now, and Kwasi Kwarteng completely avoiding answering whether Boris could survive if the UKSC found that prorogation was unlawful, and therefore that he lied to the Queen. Then he get's touchy, when he's asked what Boris does if he cannot get a deal, because the law says that Boris must get an extension.
Farage really loses his way, when Andrew Neil questions him on his statement "smells like judicial interference". Farage started "erm"-ing and "uh"-ing like Boris.
What was interesting was when he was asked if he would target Labour seats at a GE, or end up splitting the Tory vote. Farage basically said that the Tories would need to come to some kind of accommodation with him, or the Tories would end up splitting the vote.
The fact that some Conservatives have actually had the decency to stand up against the shit their party is trying to pull in real and meaningful ways, even at the cost of their own careers, is also a distinction between US and UK politics that makes me feel somewhat relieved to be on this side of the pond...Hearing more stories about how the US Democrats somehow keep taking the Republicans at their word - and getting completely and utterly screwed for it - has made me really appreciate how quickly Labour and the rest of the opposition parties here adapted to the Tories’ fuckery and stopped trying to play by the old rules.
Imagine if they’d just taken Boris at his word that he wouldn’t use an early election to force through No Deal, or not insisted on getting the extension request enshrined in law.
That's the conservative ideology in a nutshell, it's always been, "well, I'm not in that situation, so if I can do it, so can they"
I can't be the only one that finds the term "reasonable worst case" a complete oxymoron aside from it clearly being something they've just replaced the words "base scenario" with.
Wait for the catchphrase "reasonable worst case, with acceptable losses".
The rhetoric this morning was....
I was listening to Radio 2 (I think) this morning and was quite surprised when they mentioned that the previous leaked document had them labelled as the "base case".
The headline is a load of shite. They aren't heroes any more than they are enemies of the people. They're just judges who (I hope) are doing their job properly.A really powerful headline in the Scotsman today.