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BREXIT |OT2.0| A parade of endless victories for Boris Johnson
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Brexit is in hibernation till October when someone notices that a new deadline is looming.
Theyve all buggered of on holiday, so it will probably be pretty quiet until the end of Easter break.
But he is a Leftist who has outsized power relative to his position and is using it in a way that helps the Right, whilst doing what he thinks is right and hurting the electorate in the process.
I'm almost certainly reading too much into it, though. :)
And so far he* did that by defeating the Tories deal 3 times without having a majority?
This is honestly why the EU should've only extended like a month. Or even a few weeks. And just keep doing that.
Literally no one in the UK govt seems to actually want to do any real work unless their backs are against the wall. Watch fuck-all happen until Oct 1st, if not later.
The longer this drags on the more likely it is the UK stays in the EU, which would on the whole suit them just fine.
Of course they did. It's going to be depressing watching so many completely ignoring the continued evidence of the *criminal* acts of both main leave campaigns.
That LBJ quote is truly timeless.
It's pretty crazy how poor or unlucky white people still think they have kin with their richer counterparts.
It's pretty crazy how poor or unlucky white people still think they have kin with their richer counterparts.
So I heard Hunt this week talking about how the absolute priority is to get the deal signed off before May 23rd. Which is the sort of fantasy and delusion that I really wish journalists would pick up on, given that the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, i.e. the thing that actually puts the Withdrawal Agreement into UK law, still needs signing off on and it's not even been presented to Parliament yet!
There's 17 planned sitting days of Parliament between now and May 22nd, and just as an example, Maastrich took 41 days to be approved, and Lisbon took 25. This bill is going to be rather more substantial and important to everyone than either of those, so slamming that through in less time seems rather implausible and highly irresponsible.
Then there's the possibility of amendments. If any of those amendments to the bill change the nature of the Withdrawal Agreement (and you know what amendments the ERG/DUP will want to push) means it can't be ratified by the European Parliament.
Oh yes, they need to ratify it too, and they break up at the end of the week. Sure, there's plans for an extraordinary session, but that'd need organising, which would take time.. which just eats further into the May 23rd deadline.
There's 17 planned sitting days of Parliament between now and May 22nd, and just as an example, Maastrich took 41 days to be approved, and Lisbon took 25. This bill is going to be rather more substantial and important to everyone than either of those, so slamming that through in less time seems rather implausible and highly irresponsible.
Then there's the possibility of amendments. If any of those amendments to the bill change the nature of the Withdrawal Agreement (and you know what amendments the ERG/DUP will want to push) means it can't be ratified by the European Parliament.
Oh yes, they need to ratify it too, and they break up at the end of the week. Sure, there's plans for an extraordinary session, but that'd need organising, which would take time.. which just eats further into the May 23rd deadline.
Enraging. That smug fucker Banks deserves to be in jail.
Yeah it's a fantasy that we can avoid European elections, absolute fantasy. Most of them know it too, but are desperately trying to pretend otherwise for tactical reasons.
I mean, if you expect the press to start picking up on the fantasy of Brexit I think you're going to be dissapointed. The only thing that Brexiters have been peddling is nonsense. They've been saying the same rubbish for years and years and the press basically never challenges them on it - even though everything Brexiters have argued has basically turned out to be wrong or an outright lie.
Of course, the problem is that most of the press and most MPs (and similarly powerful and wealthy people) are in the same class. They went to the same schools and universities and move in the same circles. As their interests are aligned it's hardly a shock to see that there's no real challenge to the Brexit narrative.
Of course, the problem is that most of the press and most MPs (and similarly powerful and wealthy people) are in the same class. They went to the same schools and universities and move in the same circles. As their interests are aligned it's hardly a shock to see that there's no real challenge to the Brexit narrative.
Yup. Also, they are never challenged on their constantly moving goalposts- in a couple of years we've moved from 'everything will be like it was before but better' to 'an adequate supply of turnips will be maintained, muh sovereignty'. The Beeb has been particularly infuriating on this.
Haven't immigrants from outside the EU been going up since Brexit? It's going to be one of the greatest ironies of this whole thing
Of course it will have never been about immigration once that is clear, it will be about unelected tyrants in Brussels and the EU Army.
Unfortunately I expect the violence against immigrants to increase dramatically after Brexit will actually happen one way or another.
I fear that's when the pogroms start. Certainly there will be another up-tick in racial abuse.
Makes sense, but it won't end well on both sides.
I've said it plenty of times, but we are so incredibly fucked.
So 71% voting for pro-Brexit parties, and an increasing coalescence around Farage's party. That's not good...
All those people that want a second ref at any cost and would be happy to wave through May's deal (or any old deal) to get it because they think they'll easily win need to take a long hard look at these polls.
Getting echoes of Spain's PP imploding and Vox picking many of its most beligerant voters.
Of Italy's Forza Italia going down the drain, only to have much of its base moving to Lega.
Oh boy.
This is why big tent conservative parties listening to the troglodites among their ranks is always a bad idea.
In this case, I would say it is mostly because Brexit party can say it is "clean" when compared to UKIP going full on fascist.
Yup, exactly. It helps that they have a very simple and clear message too. Want Brexit, vote for the Brexit Party. Everyone else has other aims and ambitions so they're floundering.
Oh and this is just a few days after launch which means that a lot of people won't even have heard of the party yet.
Yikes. Now THAT is some disastrous polling.
Assuming a 10 member constituency:
BRX - 3 seats
Lab - 2
Con - 2
Grn - 1
LD - 1
UKIP - 1
8 member:
BRX - 2 seats
Lab - 2
Con - 2
Grn - 1
LD - 1
6 member:
BRX - 2 seats
Lab - 2
Con - 1
Grn - 1
You can check the actual split of the constituencies here.
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