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BREXIT |OT2.0| A parade of endless victories for Boris Johnson
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God I'm in tears on the train laughing at that Joe video 😂
They really are doing a fantastic public service with their videos, getting better all the time.
They really are doing a fantastic public service with their videos, getting better all the time.
That's not a take, see what I mean about being a dick unnecessarily just because someone doesn't agree with you about the lib dems?
Being snarky isn't going to bring them over to your side.
When I last did the political compass test about 5+ years ago I always ended up around -4,-2, so centre left. Which is how I've described myself. Just done the latest incarnation of the test and I'm sitting in the centre of the left-libertarian segment. Interesting to see.
It's not a market where you try to entice people to come try your wares, that's why loads of people like me find it incredible that there are still defenders of the Lib Dems, let alone the concept that there's some kind of equivalence in pushing through carrier bag policy versus benefit sanctions. It's a meme at this point because they keep tripping over this shit over and over again.
I don't need to try and win someone over who thinks that it doesn't matter what a party does if they cancel Brexit, because that kind of political galaxy brain is how you end up with New Labour and TINA.
All this non Brexit talk calling out the Lib Dems and no talk of the horizon special? *Current* labour aren't good enough either.
I was just reading this article onto WSJ about the UK and couldn't help but chuckle, thinking that "planned" is such a grandiose word for what is going on in the UK right now.
Indeed, your honour, we did plan to fall down the stairwell face-first, all the way to the bottom.
Neither are the BBC if it is true they doctored emails. Basically this country is messed
So a party that can win an election? Where's the galaxy brain of being so pro Labour you never want them to be able to win?
Anyone who legitimately thought this was the time the Tories would grow a spine was always fooling themselves. Boris is going to be our PM for a long time, we're getting a no deal Brexit and everything is fucked.
The Tories have proven multiple times they can win elections, we should just switch to being a Tory party then Labour can finally take glorious power again
From that article - Liz Truss eyes role as chancellor. She must be positively giddy at the prospect of how many people she can kill with her spending plans.
This is very worrying:
Let the great "Centrist Blairite Purge" begin! Lets ignore issues on Anti Semitism and blame it on those pesky Blairites that definitely still exist so we can deselect the people criticising us!
This will definitely go well, like how many Tories are capitulating to the ERG to avoid deselection. It'll probably be fine though, all this worry about nothing, I mean Dominic Grieve is still an MP....
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Let the great "Centrist Blairite Purge" begin! Lets ignore issues on Anti Semitism and blame it on those pesky Blairites that definitely still exist so we can deselect the people criticising us!
This will definitely go well, like how many Tories are capitulating to the ERG to avoid deselection. It'll probably be fine though, all this worry about nothing, I mean Dominic Grieve is still an MP....
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what's wrong with that? would you rather local affiliates get stuck with people they don't want want any more like Kate Hoey?
If a sitting MP is challenged then it's up to them to fight for their seat against someone else. Nobody has the automatic right to be an MP.
If a sitting MP is challenged then it's up to them to fight for their seat against someone else. Nobody has the automatic right to be an MP.
Kate Hoey is the posterchild for such a change. That Vauxhall had to wait for her to decide she wasn't gonna run again is nuts.
Note that Kate wasn't deselected because of the NEC, which is dominated by Corbyn allies. Her local constituency have already done everything necessary to deselect her, but for some reason the NEC refused to grapple with it.
I would love to deselect my MP - would be very happy if they could get in someone else
He is one of the main Labour MPs who keep siding with the Tories on Brexit (Graham Stringer), so would imagine Momentum would be targeting him as one of those to get rid of too
He is one of the main Labour MPs who keep siding with the Tories on Brexit (Graham Stringer), so would imagine Momentum would be targeting him as one of those to get rid of too
Is it not better to just make sure the selection process is more representative of the party membership (including the parts you don't like) rather than ramping up deselection powers?
They should up their game and recruit more like-minded members to support them, nobody should get a free ride in the market place of politics.
Surely it's up to the local branches to decide who best represents them. If you've got an MP who doesn't vote the way you want or is openly saying they don't want a Labour government then why should they be forced to continue to fund and work with them?
The NEC is there to make sure they don't appoint a total muppet but for the most part it should be an open selection process and then those people are sent to represent the constituency in parliament. At the end of the day it's not some hard left plot and you only need 1/3 to start a trigger ballot. A sitting MP could easily win in those circumstances if the majority still want them. also...
Yeah, that's obviously untrue as it assumes the Lib Dems have an ideology to sell out.
Which sitting MPs have not been "protected" by the NEC? That is a totally bogus accusation. The NEC adopted rules that made deselection easier, reducing the threshold to trigger a ballot.
Having MPs more accountable to the party membership seems like a good thing.
The two MPs who have been formerly deselected, having gone through the entire long, laborious process, are Hoey and Stringer. They are the only ones, and the NEC has refused to address those cases despite the local parties demanding action literally for months.
Labour deselecting MPs is very rare because its so hard compared to the tory party systems. There was no reason for the NEC to sit on those cases like they did, all they achieved was massive depression in the local parties. they didnt even keep the MPs on side for votes in the commons!
Labour deselecting MPs is very rare because its so hard compared to the tory party systems. There was no reason for the NEC to sit on those cases like they did, all they achieved was massive depression in the local parties. they didnt even keep the MPs on side for votes in the commons!
That tweet might as well read
"Amber Rudd loses seat at next general election"
Her seat was 56% remain and she has a majority of 300
Yeah
She's making a big mistake, should stick to her view about brexit, because going along with and being involved in a massive disaster like Brexit could be is going to finish her. That's not even thinking about the lunacy of Truss being in charge of the economy at the same time.
And that was even after they recounted until she won
Considering the current political climate this is really good for Labour, of course votes being spread out so much isn't great but leading is always the most you can ask for.
Seems like a good way to not only pay tariffs but get sanctions slapped onto yourself.
Still don't care about polls but digging into the data I think it's interesting that Labour's still doing very well with younger voters (18-34). I thought brexit would've had a bigger impact.
Lab 39%
Lib 14%
Con 12%
Brx 9%
SNP 5%
Grn 4%
Give me a good reason not to introduce a mandatory reselection process for all MPs.
Why should an MP get to remain a candidate by default?
This isn't that uncommon btw. I wish people wouldn't keep mentioning it. A pile of ballot sets can be double counted, or not counted at all, by accident in a count. Happens all the time, that's why we have the recounts.
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