Dreadful. I'm quite looking forward to seeing her in the debates and their Brexit position probed, I think it's going to come across badly when they have to try to defend it in comparison with Labour's.
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BREXIT |OT3| I'd Rather Be Inert in a Ditch
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Dreadful. I'm quite looking forward to seeing her in the debates and their Brexit position probed, I think it's going to come across badly when they have to try to defend it in comparison with Labour's.
It is, just a shame the lib dems are doing this. A better result would be the lib dems maintaining credibility so they can kick out as many Tories as possible.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politic...&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
It begins, much quicker then I had expected. This is almost totally at the cost of conservatives.
Election night is where it's at. 2017 was rough, drink whenever anyone wins a seat.
I'm going to be abroad on a conference, so I'll be relying on you chaps to fill me in.
So we officially have our new Mr. Speaker - from my neck of the woods no less. Nice exit from him there to adjourn.
I'm sure this Parliament being dissolved on Guy Fawkes Night doesn't lend itself to any ominous undertones.
I'm sure this Parliament being dissolved on Guy Fawkes Night doesn't lend itself to any ominous undertones.
Wow ok.
370 in mere days is fucking impressive no matter how you cut it, and it's not even campaign mode yet. This is full time, take off work campaigning.
Feet firmly on ground, but the way labour has bolted right out of the gate is very, very encouraging for their chances. I think the media at large has underestimated just how hungry the labour machine was for this.
370 in mere days is fucking impressive no matter how you cut it, and it's not even campaign mode yet. This is full time, take off work campaigning.
Feet firmly on ground, but the way labour has bolted right out of the gate is very, very encouraging for their chances. I think the media at large has underestimated just how hungry the labour machine was for this.
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Yeah I think, barring something catastrophic happening, we might end up with another performance that surprises everyone. Already moving up in the polls, grass roots ready and bigger than ever, Libs fucking up, brexit party crashing the tories plans.
What result we get who knows, and of course maybe the exact opposite happens but I'm starting to feel more confident (as much as the shitty Country allows of course).
It's funny reading these after all the Lib Dem "Labour are a pro-leave party" and "Corbyn is a secret brexiteer" takes over the past year or two
Well Corbyn can't be accused of being a secret Brexiteer I'll agree with you there.
Open Brexiteer for thirty years yes, but not secret Brexiteer.
And "Honouring the Referendum and leaving the EU" was literally Labour policy for quite some time.
Corbyn is such an open brexiteer than in those 30 years there isn't a single recorded instance of him prior to the referendum result saying "the U.K. should leave the EU". And no - being against joining or strengthening ties are not the same as wanting to sever those ties once they are made.
The fact that you have then repeated those takes is just making it funnier
I've uncovered shocking evidence that Jo Swinson is in fact a secret Brexiteer!!!!
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It actually still is. They'll just pull a Cameron and hope a 2nd ref gets them out of having to actually do it, but they're still going to attempt it.
Of course they are - they are going after Tory voters.
It's seems totally bizarre to me that people (a) moan that the LibDems are chasing Tory votes and (b) moan that they are running in Lab/Tory marginals. If anything this should go to reduce the Tory vote and make things easier for Labour, but no, gotta moan about something.
EDIT: well, that'll teach me to read the whole thread first.
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This thread feels more tense amongst posters than usual.
Remember, we all broadly agree about the same things.
Remember, we all broadly agree about the same things.
A reminder of what a Tory promise is worth as this was pledged in 2014 and in 2015 manifesto. None of the 200,000 pledged starter homes have been built: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50296672
But of course, it's immigrants' fault there's a housing crisis.
But of course, it's immigrants' fault there's a housing crisis.
This is pretty fucking terrible. They're really not having a good week, are they.
If you want something to really boil your piss this morning Jacob Rees-Mogg has said the people who burned to death in Grenfell tower lacked common sense.
I might post this in the election thread when it goes up as well, but here's a blog post going into the hot new polling method, MRP, and how to interpret the inevitable splurge of polls using it that will lead to online feuding over this campaign.
https://medium.com/@theintersectuk/mrp-estimates-and-the-2019-general-election-9ac1794120d6
https://medium.com/@theintersectuk/mrp-estimates-and-the-2019-general-election-9ac1794120d6
Like the Terminator, this one never really went away. Brexit Festival indeed...
It's strange Labour need the Lib Dems to be reasonably strong in the South West of England some of the extra suburban areas of London, so they don't really want the Lib Dems to implode. The Lib Dems on 8% is a net negative for Labour, but the Lib Dems on say 12% is probably a net gain for Labour.
Is it reasonable to say that if Gove accuses Corbyn of saying something as wrong, Corbyn is generally right in the end?
Gove was going in hard, Corbyn is Russian sympathizer, Boris was the only reason the Skripal attack was taken to task, Corbyn wanted to let Russia off the hook, Boris is a premiership striker, Corbyn is a non league player.
It was bizarre.
Good thread. This is a really common error in probability that is hard to spot because we don't intuitively combine frequencies and probabilities well.
It's a less-extreme version of the "breast cancer screening" problem. A cancer screen could have a 1% false positive error rate, but a screen of the general population will result in mostly incorrect diagnoses, because >99% of the people being screened are healthy.
So with this information, imagine you receive a positive diagnosis from cancer screen. Should you be scared because the test correctly identifies cancer in 99% of cases or relatively relaxed because you think you understand Bayesian probabilities?
2010 was also the absolute height of fretting about the deficit, yet I'm not so sure we had front pages panicking like this...
Hopefully people actually look at the numbers before poo-pooing a four day week out of hand because of "blah blah lazy bastards blah blah I work six days a week, 5am until 2am, rise and grind, blah blah" warped protestant work ethic, entrepreneurial worship of self-sacrifice, self-made/bootstraps brainwashing.
If you follow that train of logic to its absolute extreme, imagine how much money the country would save if we moved to a six day week! Of course, any party who tried that would be fucking crucified for halving your weekend (well, maybe not if the papers tried hard enough to convince the proles otherwise).
The five day work week isn't some magic sweet spot proven by science after all. The weekend as we know it has only existed for... what, 100 years? People have been predicting for a long time the way we address work/life balance is set to change. The four day week could be the next jump.
Thought Corbyn's Brexit speech / Q&A was alright.
I'll never get bored of people "forgetting" Trump was the man who said healthcare would be on the table. Dispatches really came through at the right time, too.
I'll never get bored of people "forgetting" Trump was the man who said healthcare would be on the table. Dispatches really came through at the right time, too.
Trump himself forgot he said it first and blamed Corbs for saying it first. Even Farage couldn't deny that but did excuse it as Trump not knowing what the NHS was. So either he knew and meant it (bad) or is dumb and signs up to anything (also bad, but more bad for Americans than us).
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