This is the message that's going to sink the gains they've made with remainers. People know they're not getting in to revoke, so if the only route to remain is a second referendum then people are going to have to vote Labour.
Glad everyone is coming round to the lib Dems being shit so quickly
Lib Dem votes will result in brexit is a ridiculous position 👀👀Don't worry, we'll have the Swinson whisperer's show up soon to explain what she REALLY means when she says she categorically rules out working with Corbyn in any way
Remainers were supposed to be the sensible types but it's clear they've got a bunch of lunatics among them too.
Lib Dem votes will result in brexit is a ridiculous position 👀👀
Glad everyone is coming round to the lib Dems being shit so quickly
Don't need to win an election if everyone just defects to your party. Smart.
Remainers being smug rather than actually trying to deal with people's issues well I neverAnd Swinson appears to be the chief lunatic. Her arrogance and her ego is causing her to say some really stupid things, and that smug smirk she always wears is getting annoying. If I was told that she was also brought in to sabotage the Remain cause I may just believe that person.
Lib Dem dunk smugness on the other hand is A OK with meThe only good coming from this is it allows me to be smug af having called out the Lib Dems for this ages ago
LDs really trying to make it hard for me to continue to advocate tactically voting for them in some constituencies with their arrogant, scorched earth tactics against Labour.
There's two possible explanations (and both of them can be true at the same time):LD really seem to be playing fireball - everyone gets burned. What the hell are they playing at? They could do a confidence and supply arrangement without compromising on their own policies.
Two would be pretty delusional on their part...There's two possible explanations (and both of them can be true at the same time):
1. Their #1 priority, over and above the results of Brexit (and regardless of how bad those results would be) is to prevent Corbyn becoming PM. In this case, a confidence and supply would be compromising their own policies - specifically the policy that Corbyn shouldn't be PM.
2. Swinson (and presumably also a majority of the senior leadership) genuinely believes that the Lib Dems can form a Lib Dem-led government. In this case, she wouldn't be expecting Lib Dem MPs to vote for a Labour PM - she'd be expecting Labour MPs to vote for her, and she's therefore doing the same thing any major party leader would do before an election (ruling out that party being a junior partner in government).
I suspect it's more the first option than the second.
Categorically refusing to support Corbyn (i.e ruling out not only a coalition but also a confidence/supply) is insane.
I'm going to assume she has the same view regarding supporting Boris (because if supporting Corbyn risks losing some soft Tories, then supporting Boris would definitely lose their Remain voters)
Seriously though, what happens if you have a hung parliament and other parties simply refuse to support each other?
I'm fairly sure that if no-one can become win confidence, parliament just dissolves again automatically and we keep having elections until someone does.
The LD's aren't winning a majority/plurality on their own, so what do they think they can acheive?
This is outlined (pretty poorly) in the Cabinet Manual (page 21/22 of the PDF). Effectively the procedure is for parties to try to form workable governments (that enjoy confidence of the Commons) until they give up. It doesn't state that a new election is the next step, but it's the only possible step so that'd be what happened.Seriously though, what happens if you have a hung parliament and other parties simply refuse to support each other?
I'm fairly sure that if no-one can become win confidence, parliament just dissolves again automatically and we keep having elections until someone does.
It would be, yes. It is however consistent with how they are acting and what they're saying, so they may well be that delusional.
There's two possible explanations (and both of them can be true at the same time):
1. Their #1 priority, over and above the results of Brexit (and regardless of how bad those results would be) is to prevent Corbyn becoming PM. In this case, a confidence and supply would be compromising their own policies - specifically the policy that Corbyn shouldn't be PM.
2. Swinson (and presumably also a majority of the senior leadership) genuinely believes that the Lib Dems can form a Lib Dem-led government. In this case, she wouldn't be expecting Lib Dem MPs to vote for a Labour PM - she'd be expecting Labour MPs to vote for her, and she's therefore doing the same thing any major party leader would do before an election (ruling out that party being a junior partner in government).
I suspect it's more the first option than the second.
We won't know until it's too late, but it screams smoke screen.Grieve's urgent question with regard to the Russia report is worth a watch: https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/95d372d7-e8e9-431c-93ab-692c6b631a1b?in=12:35:15