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British people guess how much US healthcare costs

SamAlbro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,930
How can you even charge money for basic neonatal baby care. Like at what point are you a doctor and go, you want this baby to bond with its mother, tsk, sign here first.

I guess a doctor that thinks 2500 for an ambulance ride makes sense too.
It's not the doctors. It's the hospital administrators and insurance companies.
 

collige

Member
Oct 31, 2017
5,588
Wasn't this more a modification of a Republican plan in the hopes that such would make it palatable to them? Which of course largely didn't work because it became a matter to spite Obama over.
It didn't largely didn't work, it completely didn't work since not a single Republican voted for it.

So is this just a big scam in the US? How do they justify you paying this ridiculous amount of money? 2500 for a fucking ambulance... for what exactly? Gas? Lol.
Turns out you can kinda charge whatever you want if people have to use your service to stay alive.
 

StrykerIsland

Member
Oct 25, 2017
733
I’ve been in the hospital for the past week (Canada), have had 5 MRIs, two CT scans, a lumbar puncture, an x-ray, daily steroid doses, blood thinners, painkillers, multiple ultrasounds, etc. with round the clock care and it doesn’t cost me a dime.

I love this country and I weep for those who don’t have access to free health care. It’s a right that every man, woman and child should have.
 

Wrestleman

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,929
So is this just a big scam in the US? How do they justify you paying this ridiculous amount of money? 2500 for a fucking ambulance... for what exactly? Gas? Lol.
Scam? Why no. No scam. We all know exactly what we're getting into. That's why you hear stories of Americans (even in this thread) refusing medical care. We're trapped in it though.

Privatized health companies just raise the prices of whatever to whatever they feel like. Make a medical device for a few grand, charge the hospital 100K for it, hospital passes the price onto the patient.
 

Pilgrimzero

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,209
To truly understand the American mindset for things like healthcare, homelessness, and education you have to understand the philosophy of "Fuck you, got mine."
 

Stinkles

343 Industries
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
15,823
I mean, I'm gonna highball it and say $20 a pill
I was charged fifty dollars for one. 500mg. they never brought it.

It was after a major spine surgery. I was more or less paralyzed after the procedure for a day or two. The pain was so outlandish that I'm honestly not sure why they would even mention Tylenol.

My top tier insurance allowed me to have a private room. They brought a meth addict in during the night and pushed him on a gurney into my room and let his meth friends and family visit loudly.


The nurse at the overnight station ignored my pleas for help when I needed to pee in the middle of the night.

The entire stay and operation cost about the same as an exotic supercar. I didn't pay it out of pocket but they itemized the bill so I saw the tylenol.

I still never got that Tylenol.
 

KtotheRoc

Member
Oct 27, 2017
22,769
The American Health Care industry is the fucking worst. That people aren't marching in the streets over it every day is one of the most frustrating things about living in America.
 

Lundren

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,704
BTW, these three wildly different costs given for pain medicine is another of those funny quirks of the system.

You don't ever know what you're paying until they bill you.

Imagine walking into Best Buy and taking home a TV and then your brother sees it and goes to buy himself one too, then 4 months later you both get a bill. You pay $700 and he pays $1,000.
 

Pilgrimzero

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,209
When someone goes to the hospital they are usually told by friends/family "Dont worry about the cost just get better" and it would seem that simply never paying the bill is the way to go. Cant squeeze blood from a stone, right?
 

tr1b0re

Member
Oct 17, 2018
618
Trinidad and Tobago
I was charged fifty dollars for one. 500mg. they never brought it.

It was after a major spine surgery. I was more or less paralyzed after the procedure for a day or two. The pain was so outlandish that I'm honestly not sure why they would even mention Tylenol.

My top tier insurance allowed me to have a private room. They brought a meth addict in during the night and pushed him on a gurney into my room and let his meth friends and family visit loudly.


The nurse at the overnight station ignored my pleas for help when I needed to pee in the middle of the night.

The entire stay and operation cost about the same as an exotic supercar. I didn't pay it out of pocket but they itemized the bill so I saw the tylenol.

I still never got that Tylenol.
This just sucks all around man, I'm sorry to hear that
At the very least shitty hospital service isn't uniquely American and we've got all kinds of horror stories down here as well, cost difference aside

Very close. We once got a bill (granted it was fully paid because of our unusually good insurance) for $35 per pill.
Less than what the other guy said higher up but that's still crazy

If it was for a bottle of pills it would be fine, but ONE? Insane.
 

Wraith

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Jun 28, 2018
3,209
We've been living under decades of propaganda that anything different from our current system is tantamount to communism and we'd all we waiting in healthcare-breadlines waiting to be let into a hospital staffed with substandard doctors since all the good ones would have quit since they wouldn't get paid enough. Even the ACA/Obamacare was lambasted as "Government healthcare" and "socialism" when what we ended up with was the conservative solution (Romneycare writ large).

My thoughts are M4A won't be easy to pass by any means, but we tried the moderate solution and the R's have still done everything in their power to tear it down (it was one vote away from getting killed in the Senate two years ago), so we might as well swing for the fences this time instead of just trying to patch up the holes in the ACA.
 

Siggy-P

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Mar 18, 2018
6,319
I still remember finding out that Americans pay or the hospital.

Like what's the point? You need it to not be I'll or die.

Crazy. I think about all the NHS services I and my family have gotten over our lives and it's all free.
 

Zombegoast

Member
Oct 30, 2017
5,002
Reminds me of this Vox video.
I'm eligible with financial assistant with Orlando Health. I applied, provided them my information and when I call my hosptial so see what's up, it went straight to voice mail every time I call.

Orlando Health is non profit and worth $3.4 billion and I mom use to work for them at Dr Phillips. They treated her horribly and she didn't recvied any bonus for working holidays and a Financial Counselor.

When I went to the ER, they seemed more concern about my income than my finger that's gushing out blood. Luckily I had a first aid kit at home.

People should be in jail for this practice
 

P-MAC

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Nov 15, 2017
2,165
I used to work in the department where surgical and out patient instruments are sterilised. That was privatised about 8 or 9 years ago now. They're doing it bit by bit so people don't notice.
And it’s fucking working too. Facebook comment sections are still full of idiots saying Corbyn made up the privatisation thing. It’s terrifying.
 

P-MAC

Member
Nov 15, 2017
2,165
I was charged fifty dollars for one. 500mg. they never brought it.

It was after a major spine surgery. I was more or less paralyzed after the procedure for a day or two. The pain was so outlandish that I'm honestly not sure why they would even mention Tylenol.

My top tier insurance allowed me to have a private room. They brought a meth addict in during the night and pushed him on a gurney into my room and let his meth friends and family visit loudly.


The nurse at the overnight station ignored my pleas for help when I needed to pee in the middle of the night.

The entire stay and operation cost about the same as an exotic supercar. I didn't pay it out of pocket but they itemized the bill so I saw the tylenol.

I still never got that Tylenol.
This is how supervillains are made. I’m so sorry
 

Yaboosh

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,560
It all comes back to “personal responsibility” being a core tenet of US philosophy. That’s on both sides of the aisle.
 

ReAxion

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,517
I find it kind of surprising that people don't know this, but I guess the same moneyed interests that keep Americans clinging to the private health insurance industry are the same ones keeping UK people the dark about what's going to happen to their NHS.


"There's a charge for that?"
haha, oh baby, you'd better believe it.
 
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alpha

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,278
Yeah, health care here sucks. I have medicine I have to take for severe asthma, which consists of one daily inhaler, one emergency inhaler and a 30 day supply of nebulizer solution.

I pay $60 for everything when I need refills...which is a discount compared to the non-insurance cost of about $700 per refill for them.
 

Neo C.

Member
Nov 9, 2017
728
After spending so much time in this forum, those numbers don't shock me anymore. I already know how ridiculous those bills are.

Why do Americans still have babies though? I wouldn't think of having a family if having a baby costs me 10k.
 
Jul 7, 2019
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It all comes back to “personal responsibility” being a core tenet of US philosophy. That’s on both sides of the aisle.
Didn’t you know, with a little elbow grease, you, too, could make it 3% above the poverty line!? Greatest nation on earth! Hail Reagan!

p.s. you make too much for medicaid now, so, actually, you’re more poor now than you were when you were poor. Work harder, fool.
 

Primal Sage

Member
Nov 27, 2017
738
Meanwhile in Denmark where I live:

Going to the doctor: Free
Anything that takes place at the doctor’s: Free

Ambulance ride: Free
Anything that takes place at the ER/hospital: Free

If you need some kind of non-critical procedure (hip replacement etc) which has a long waiting list, there is a maximum wait of one month. After that you can choose to have the procedure done at a private hospital. Also free (bill paid by state). This was introduced in the last 15 years by a centre-right leaning government.

We only pay for two things:
-Dentist (free for under 25-year olds)
-Medication taken at home

Our politicians, even the most conservative ones, wouldn’t even dare bringing up anything that smelled like the American system. “Lower taxes and no state-paid healthcare”.

They would be ridiculed and lose the election.
 

Krejlooc

Indie Game Dev
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
20,100
That woman who said Fuck Trump is so awesome.

I'm staring down a pair of $10k dental implants right now. I have dental insurance.
 

Pilgrimzero

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,209
After spending so much time in this forum, those numbers don't shock me anymore. I already know how ridiculous those bills are.

Why do Americans still have babies though? I wouldn't think of having a family if having a baby costs me 10k.
3 of the 6 young ladies I know of (family / friends of family) their children were unplanned.
 

Freakzilla

Member
Oct 31, 2017
4,245
What are they gonna do if i don't pay 40$? give the kid away?
It gets cleaned up and rolled into the nursery where there are other babies.

How can you even charge money for basic neonatal baby care. Like at what point are you a doctor and go, you want this baby to bond with its mother, tsk, sign here first.

I guess a doctor that thinks 2500 for an ambulance ride makes sense too.
Doctors don't set the prices...
 

itwasTuesday

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
7,923
After spending so much time in this forum, those numbers don't shock me anymore. I already know how ridiculous those bills are.

Why do Americans still have babies though? I wouldn't think of having a family if having a baby costs me 10k.
The more babies you have the more you get rich from welfare.
Eventually you become a queen eating steak and lobster every night in your mansion.
 

Nesotenso

Member
Oct 26, 2017
703
Procedural costs are insane here. Any sort of nationalized health care system should also come with reformation of costs for drugs, medical procedures, equipment etc.
But socialized healthcare is not "free". Someone is paying.
 

Sawneeks

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,612
Just to share a quick math I did "for fun".

My mother's husband was diagnosed with lung cancer now close to 2 years ago, and sadly it's not going well (he's got just days left, likely won't survive winter).

He did months of weekly chemio and experimental chemio later (1 week = 25.000 euro, around 100.000 euro/month, 18 months = 1.8 millions). He also took a special kind of pills that costed around 6.300 euro per package (a package lasts 40 days).

Plus he did lung surgery with an international excellency in his field.

Currently we have him hospitalized at home and we get a daily visit from 2 nurses and a weekly visit by his oncologist, all for free. They also give us all the medications required for free.

Last week he felt slightly worse than usual, we called the clinic that is following him and they told us to get there and pick up some medications.

I had to take a picture because what they gifted me was insane



I felt like I robbed a pharmacy lol.

But yeah, it would have costed us probably over 3.5 millions euro I think, and I'm being very optimistic.
That was all for free....?

I can't even fathom that. My dad had to pay multiple thousands a month for his chemo pills and that didn't count the transfusions. Christ.