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British people guess how much US healthcare costs
- Thread starter Ottaro
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It's not the doctors. It's the hospital administrators and insurance companies.
It didn't largely didn't work, it completely didn't work since not a single Republican voted for it.
Turns out you can kinda charge whatever you want if people have to use your service to stay alive.
I've been in the hospital for the past week (Canada), have had 5 MRIs, two CT scans, a lumbar puncture, an x-ray, daily steroid doses, blood thinners, painkillers, multiple ultrasounds, etc. with round the clock care and it doesn't cost me a dime.
I love this country and I weep for those who don't have access to free health care. It's a right that every man, woman and child should have.
I love this country and I weep for those who don't have access to free health care. It's a right that every man, woman and child should have.
Scam? Why no. No scam. We all know exactly what we're getting into. That's why you hear stories of Americans (even in this thread) refusing medical care. We're trapped in it though.
Privatized health companies just raise the prices of whatever to whatever they feel like. Make a medical device for a few grand, charge the hospital 100K for it, hospital passes the price onto the patient.
To truly understand the American mindset for things like healthcare, homelessness, and education you have to understand the philosophy of "Fuck you, got mine."
I was charged fifty dollars for one. 500mg. they never brought it.
It was after a major spine surgery. I was more or less paralyzed after the procedure for a day or two. The pain was so outlandish that I'm honestly not sure why they would even mention Tylenol.
My top tier insurance allowed me to have a private room. They brought a meth addict in during the night and pushed him on a gurney into my room and let his meth friends and family visit loudly.
The nurse at the overnight station ignored my pleas for help when I needed to pee in the middle of the night.
The entire stay and operation cost about the same as an exotic supercar. I didn't pay it out of pocket but they itemized the bill so I saw the tylenol.
I still never got that Tylenol.
Very close. We once got a bill (granted it was fully paid because of our unusually good insurance) for $35 per pill.
BTW, these three wildly different costs given for pain medicine is another of those funny quirks of the system.
You don't ever know what you're paying until they bill you.
Imagine walking into Best Buy and taking home a TV and then your brother sees it and goes to buy himself one too, then 4 months later you both get a bill. You pay $700 and he pays $1,000.
You don't ever know what you're paying until they bill you.
Imagine walking into Best Buy and taking home a TV and then your brother sees it and goes to buy himself one too, then 4 months later you both get a bill. You pay $700 and he pays $1,000.
When someone goes to the hospital they are usually told by friends/family "Dont worry about the cost just get better" and it would seem that simply never paying the bill is the way to go. Cant squeeze blood from a stone, right?
This just sucks all around man, I'm sorry to hear that
At the very least shitty hospital service isn't uniquely American and we've got all kinds of horror stories down here as well, cost difference aside
Less than what the other guy said higher up but that's still crazy
If it was for a bottle of pills it would be fine, but ONE? Insane.
We've been living under decades of propaganda that anything different from our current system is tantamount to communism and we'd all we waiting in healthcare-breadlines waiting to be let into a hospital staffed with substandard doctors since all the good ones would have quit since they wouldn't get paid enough. Even the ACA/Obamacare was lambasted as "Government healthcare" and "socialism" when what we ended up with was the conservative solution (Romneycare writ large).
My thoughts are M4A won't be easy to pass by any means, but we tried the moderate solution and the R's have still done everything in their power to tear it down (it was one vote away from getting killed in the Senate two years ago), so we might as well swing for the fences this time instead of just trying to patch up the holes in the ACA.
My thoughts are M4A won't be easy to pass by any means, but we tried the moderate solution and the R's have still done everything in their power to tear it down (it was one vote away from getting killed in the Senate two years ago), so we might as well swing for the fences this time instead of just trying to patch up the holes in the ACA.
Yeah but the doctor has to then actually deprive the baby of kangaroo care. So my question was who would go along with that and actually enact it.
lol and yeah that's "good" insurance. And then people here are so brainwashed they would rather keep that "good" insurance than vote for someone who wants to implement something more like NHS.
I'm eligible with financial assistant with Orlando Health. I applied, provided them my information and when I call my hosptial so see what's up, it went straight to voice mail every time I call.
Orlando Health is non profit and worth $3.4 billion and I mom use to work for them at Dr Phillips. They treated her horribly and she didn't recvied any bonus for working holidays and a Financial Counselor.
When I went to the ER, they seemed more concern about my income than my finger that's gushing out blood. Luckily I had a first aid kit at home.
People should be in jail for this practice
And it's fucking working too. Facebook comment sections are still full of idiots saying Corbyn made up the privatisation thing. It's terrifying.
It all comes back to "personal responsibility" being a core tenet of US philosophy. That's on both sides of the aisle.
If you're rich it has an argument lol. If you're earnings are anywhere on the spectrum between slightly above average and poverty though, it's an awful place to live.
I find it kind of surprising that people don't know this, but I guess the same moneyed interests that keep Americans clinging to the private health insurance industry are the same ones keeping UK people the dark about what's going to happen to their NHS.
"There's a charge for that?"
haha, oh baby, you'd better believe it.
"There's a charge for that?"
haha, oh baby, you'd better believe it.
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Yeah, health care here sucks. I have medicine I have to take for severe asthma, which consists of one daily inhaler, one emergency inhaler and a 30 day supply of nebulizer solution.
I pay $60 for everything when I need refills...which is a discount compared to the non-insurance cost of about $700 per refill for them.
I pay $60 for everything when I need refills...which is a discount compared to the non-insurance cost of about $700 per refill for them.
Didn't you know, with a little elbow grease, you, too, could make it 3% above the poverty line!? Greatest nation on earth! Hail Reagan!
p.s. you make too much for medicaid now, so, actually, you're more poor now than you were when you were poor. Work harder, fool.
Meanwhile in Denmark where I live:
Going to the doctor: Free
Anything that takes place at the doctor's: Free
Ambulance ride: Free
Anything that takes place at the ER/hospital: Free
If you need some kind of non-critical procedure (hip replacement etc) which has a long waiting list, there is a maximum wait of one month. After that you can choose to have the procedure done at a private hospital. Also free (bill paid by state). This was introduced in the last 15 years by a centre-right leaning government.
We only pay for two things:
-Dentist (free for under 25-year olds)
-Medication taken at home
Our politicians, even the most conservative ones, wouldn't even dare bringing up anything that smelled like the American system. "Lower taxes and no state-paid healthcare".
They would be ridiculed and lose the election.
Going to the doctor: Free
Anything that takes place at the doctor's: Free
Ambulance ride: Free
Anything that takes place at the ER/hospital: Free
If you need some kind of non-critical procedure (hip replacement etc) which has a long waiting list, there is a maximum wait of one month. After that you can choose to have the procedure done at a private hospital. Also free (bill paid by state). This was introduced in the last 15 years by a centre-right leaning government.
We only pay for two things:
-Dentist (free for under 25-year olds)
-Medication taken at home
Our politicians, even the most conservative ones, wouldn't even dare bringing up anything that smelled like the American system. "Lower taxes and no state-paid healthcare".
They would be ridiculed and lose the election.
America is holding every single one of its citizens hostage with their health system. Disgusting.
That woman who said Fuck Trump is so awesome.
I'm staring down a pair of $10k dental implants right now. I have dental insurance.
I'm staring down a pair of $10k dental implants right now. I have dental insurance.
3 of the 6 young ladies I know of (family / friends of family) their children were unplanned.
US nurses should only accept cash when the mom wants to hold her baby.
That'll be $40 p.o.d. Miss.
That'll be $40 p.o.d. Miss.
It gets cleaned up and rolled into the nursery where there are other babies.
Doctors don't set the prices...
The more babies you have the more you get rich from welfare.
Eventually you become a queen eating steak and lobster every night in your mansion.
That was all for free....?Just to share a quick math I did "for fun".
My mother's husband was diagnosed with lung cancer now close to 2 years ago, and sadly it's not going well (he's got just days left, likely won't survive winter).
He did months of weekly chemio and experimental chemio later (1 week = 25.000 euro, around 100.000 euro/month, 18 months = 1.8 millions). He also took a special kind of pills that costed around 6.300 euro per package (a package lasts 40 days).
Plus he did lung surgery with an international excellency in his field.
Currently we have him hospitalized at home and we get a daily visit from 2 nurses and a weekly visit by his oncologist, all for free. They also give us all the medications required for free.
Last week he felt slightly worse than usual, we called the clinic that is following him and they told us to get there and pick up some medications.
I had to take a picture because what they gifted me was insane
I felt like I robbed a pharmacy lol.
But yeah, it would have costed us probably over 3.5 millions euro I think, and I'm being very optimistic.
I can't even fathom that. My dad had to pay multiple thousands a month for his chemo pills and that didn't count the transfusions. Christ.
