Capitalizing every single word... except "america"
(Alright, and "about" as well)
Hmm...
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Bryan Cranston: To those who want Trump to fail: 'F--- you'
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Capitalizing every single word... except "america"
(Alright, and "about" as well)
Hmm...
You seriously equating Trump's admin to Obama's admin?
So you want him to succeed at selling out the country for his own interests, setting civil rights back as far as he can throw it and debasing/insulting the highest office in our nation with half retarded good ol boy rhetoric and out and out lies?
Well... I guess Get Fucked, Heisenberg. People aren't hating on Trump cause they hate America and want him to fail. They hate him because he's a vile piece of shit. What an odd time to come out in defense of him... while his dirtiest most treasonous shit is just coming to light.
Well... I guess Get Fucked, Heisenberg. People aren't hating on Trump cause they hate America and want him to fail. They hate him because he's a vile piece of shit. What an odd time to come out in defense of him... while his dirtiest most treasonous shit is just coming to light.
No matter how you try to sugarcoat his message, it boils down to please don't wish for his* failure or you're unAmerican. * being the guy that has proven on a daily basis to have absolutely no idea what he is doing or even scarier, KNOWS what he is doing on a daily basis. Fuck Cranston. He's not affected by any policy.
lmao thats called an opinion buddy
i'm allowed to have free speech
and yes she was just as trash as trump, whether you like it or not
Positive about a guy who said there are "very fine people" among a group of Nazis who murdered a woman who was peacefully protesting their rally?
Just so you know free speech does not mean that nobody can criticize you for expressing unsubstantiated opinions.
EDIT: Lower-cased for civility.
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He Actually Said There Were Very Fine People On Both Sides( Even Though he's soooooooo wrong there ) And Don't Compare Richard Spencer's Goons to Nazi Germany, That's Just Flat Out Stupid, There's No Excuse For It.
I understand what Cranston is trying to say, but I think he's misled. Supporting Trump means supporting his policies, and I can't in good conscious do that.
It would be great to see Trump succeed and have a good period as president but as of now I really don't see that happening anytime soon
I just find her suspicious, that's all
anyways lets not de-rail this thread guys, get back to insulting Bryan Cranston and take the focus off of my opinions, Its not what the thread is about
I don't understand how you can claim that White Nationalists and Neo-Nazis who explicitly position themselves as the inheritors of Nazi ideology and express their admiration for it and their intention to revive it can not or should not be compared to Nazi Germany. Can you expand on that argument or are you just saying that the scope of what modern neo-Nazis have done can't be compared to the scope of crimes which Nazi Germany committed?
While Some Of Them Did Wave Nazi Flags, The Group As A Whole Is Quite Different, The White Supremacists Led By Richard Spencer are Just Pure Dumbasses Trying To Piss People Off, While Actual Nazi's Killed Millions Of People And Supported A Completely Different Government and Economic System.
You Know You're Talking to a history buff, right?
They were successful in pissing people off. They also ran over a bunch of people and killed Heather Heyer. You couldn't have forgotten that, Mr history buff? It happened just like a month ago.
I mean, I think I had this mindset when he was first elected. Even though I knew very well he was going to fuck things up royally, that didn't mean I wanted him to fuck things up.
Unfortunately we're already a year in and by now we've seen enough of a ripple effect on the world that it's safe to say we're extremely passed the point of having to point out the difference between wanting someone to fail and wanting someone to answer for their failures.
Unfortunately we're already a year in and by now we've seen enough of a ripple effect on the world that it's safe to say we're extremely passed the point of having to point out the difference between wanting someone to fail and wanting someone to answer for their failures.
Bryan, Bryan, Bryan....The parts of the US that are still working are working in spite of Trump's horrible leadership. Trump has the easiest Presidential Job in the world, it's called, "Donnie, don't fuck it up!" I mean to be honest, we already know Donnie had it pretty easy before the presidency, so I won't beat that dead horse. But Donnie failing and getting removed wouldn't really affect in a bad way (ok I suppose that could be debated). Did the country fail when Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and Kennedy were assassinated? Nope. Sounds like Bryan is showing his Pro Donnie colors (is he Pro Trump?), I mean anyone who would make a bid that Trump was better than [enter name here] would have to put him up against people that were notoriously worse than how terrible Donnie already is.
I don't think neoNazi's should be allowed a political party or voice to see whether or not they would enact the same or different policies as Nazi controlled Germany. Why should they get a chance when socialists or communists are heavily associated with their counterparts in other countries and time periods? (I'm not advocating for those either)
If socialists or communists are met with "look what socialism did to such and such country" then Nazi's should be stigmatized and ostracized as well, even more so because their historical counterpart commited genocide!
EDIT sorry I realized I strayed from the main topic. I feel bad that Cranston wants Trump to succeed, as like others said, him succeeding means that our country fails.
I guess it's fine not feeling threatened by those who wish to follow the teachings of those responsible for the Holocaust.
Does he really believe that people want to see him fail just because? That's not the case, people hate trump because he has done more harm (a lot more) than good, that's why they want him out of the office, the guy talked about nuclear war as if it were a damn game, he's crazy.
I do not live in the USA but I am still afraid of what the idiot in chief can do someday.
I do not live in the USA but I am still afraid of what the idiot in chief can do someday.
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Bryan is very endeared to me due to his roles on TV and his comments about Trump in the past, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
fact is, success to Trump based on his history, platform he ran on and his track record so far as President means disaster for me & my family. Bryan's a rich old white guy so he'll most likely be fine whatever Trump "accomplishes" as President. But fuck that BC, I'm not going to hope Trump's travel ban succeeds and I'm not rooting for him to institute country wide stop and frisk just because he's president and that would be success to him
fact is, success to Trump based on his history, platform he ran on and his track record so far as President means disaster for me & my family. Bryan's a rich old white guy so he'll most likely be fine whatever Trump "accomplishes" as President. But fuck that BC, I'm not going to hope Trump's travel ban succeeds and I'm not rooting for him to institute country wide stop and frisk just because he's president and that would be success to him
Is that appeal to your own supposed credentials supposed to lend you some sort of credibility? I asked you for a clarification and you did, in a poorly worded fashion, manage to confirm that you were making the argument I thought you were.
A self-professed "history buff" might be expected to have a bit of a broader perspective on the spread of nationalist and fascist movements in Europe and America, but please, continue to hold up "actually manages to kill millions of people" as the standard which must be met before a group can be meaningfully compared to National Socialism.
One Of Them Did, Yes, And It Was Almost Three Months By The Way. I Wasn't Thinking About That Tragedy, And I Apologize for that.
If They're Trying To Then They Definitely Failed.
They Can't Even Look Somewhat Threatening.
That's quite a stretch.
You are welcome to expand on your argument that there is a fundamental disconnect between modern nationalists and the 1930s fascists they claim to be the ideological descendants of, or that they are not part of a larger wave of racist and nationalist movements which have been gaining strength in Europe and Asia for the past decade. Please expand your argument with actual examples so that it may be addressed as such. Your original response did not contain any actual point with which to engage, and thus my response was dismissive.
What comes first, the ideology or the murder? Because I'm gonna say one led directly into the other and the former is what Richard Spencer is preaching. Believing things is what led to the murder and near genocide.
History buff doesn't mean much if you aren't going to draw a correlation between the two.
I suppose he'd rather have Trump succeed at the things he wants to do like instituting stop and frisk nationwide, surveillance of mosques, building a wall on the Mexican border, destroying the health care system, deporting people who were brought here when they were 5, destroying the environment by gutting the EPA, helping destroy the world via climate denial, creating a global power vacuum by withdrawing from world leadership, and generally normalizing future presidents who act like a spoiled child and an utter embarrassment to the country.
Nobody wants Trump to fail so that he can bring down the entire political system with him. If anything, that's what quite a lot of people voted for him to do. This shit about having to wish the president well whether you agree with him or not doesn't apply when the vast majority of his positions are not only bad, but actually indefensible. His surrogates can only deflect and his fellow party leaders don't even bother defending him anymore half the time. They are exactly the kind of shitty ideas your average ignorant person on the street would think up inspired by Facebook memes. That's not to insult the average person, that's to say we seriously need a more curious, more educated, more well-advised and more steady-handed person than average for the job of leader of the free world. Trump is a bratty child who inherited an antique shop. He runs around flailing his arms and breaking everything because he doesn't understand or care to learn about the value of things that he doesn't think are cool at a glance. Of fucking course the employees want him out.
Nobody wants Trump to fail so that he can bring down the entire political system with him. If anything, that's what quite a lot of people voted for him to do. This shit about having to wish the president well whether you agree with him or not doesn't apply when the vast majority of his positions are not only bad, but actually indefensible. His surrogates can only deflect and his fellow party leaders don't even bother defending him anymore half the time. They are exactly the kind of shitty ideas your average ignorant person on the street would think up inspired by Facebook memes. That's not to insult the average person, that's to say we seriously need a more curious, more educated, more well-advised and more steady-handed person than average for the job of leader of the free world. Trump is a bratty child who inherited an antique shop. He runs around flailing his arms and breaking everything because he doesn't understand or care to learn about the value of things that he doesn't think are cool at a glance. Of fucking course the employees want him out.
I think I see what he's saying but it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. This is not an Obama situation where his critics wanted him to fail because of who he is; we want Trump to fail because his proposed policies are terrible. We want him impeached if there are legitimate grounds for impeachment. Not sure who Cranston is addressing here.
This is such a simplistic view of what the leader of a country actually is.
Cranstons view is that a leader takes control and helps the country to improve and grow, which is what its meant to be.
What actually happens is the head of a party tries to implement their policies.
Might not seem much of a difference but that's only if you ignore how different policies can be, what their results can be and also what the real goal of a policy is.
When you have a pathological liar who is motivated only by power, money and adulation their goals as the head of a party of similar people their goals aren't going to be in line with what the role is meant to be.
To say wanting him to fail is bad is a ridiculous idea that doesn't take reality, self interests, corruption etc. into consideration and to attack people who want a wannabe dictator to fail is not only stupid but also fucking dangerous.
Cranstons view is that a leader takes control and helps the country to improve and grow, which is what its meant to be.
What actually happens is the head of a party tries to implement their policies.
Might not seem much of a difference but that's only if you ignore how different policies can be, what their results can be and also what the real goal of a policy is.
When you have a pathological liar who is motivated only by power, money and adulation their goals as the head of a party of similar people their goals aren't going to be in line with what the role is meant to be.
To say wanting him to fail is bad is a ridiculous idea that doesn't take reality, self interests, corruption etc. into consideration and to attack people who want a wannabe dictator to fail is not only stupid but also fucking dangerous.
Makes no sense. The things Trump is trying to do are hurtful, so Trump failing equals humanity succeeding. For example, he wants to make racism and bigotry into policy (more than it already is) with his travel ban and anti-LGBT executive order. So yes, I want Trump to fail at those things.
Show me something that Trump wants to do that is actually a good thing, and I'll support it. Good luck, though.
Show me something that Trump wants to do that is actually a good thing, and I'll support it. Good luck, though.
He's promoting a movie which is supposed to play to military families and "patriotic" movie goers, so he's covering his previous anti-Trump comments with a sort of, "I hope he does ok so the country is ok" message so he won't be too unappealing to middle American movie-goers who need to turn out for the picture. I really don't think there's anything here aside from possibly the chance that Bryan Cranston has a sort of "Fisher King" view of the presidency as barometer of national well-being.
It's not even like, the tenth most horrible thing a famous person has done or been outed for this week. (Hey Hollywood, STOP RAPING PEOPLE)
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I mean, I know what he's trying to say, but once you're older than a Freshman in college it's hard to excuse this level of impetuous oversimplification.
I'm sure Heather Heyer agrees with your appreciation.
I guess that makes sense, although the "fuck you" is needlessly inflammatory. It's whatever, though, I'm not going to pillory the guy for espousing or holding a kind of dumb opinion. It's just surprising coming from an actor I generally really like but know little about personally, tbh.
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Umm...
Why did you go through and capitalize every word in Lesath's post when you quoted it?...
That's just... very strange...
ShamelessZeroMain's quote of Lesath's post:
Umm...
Why did you go through and capitalize every word in Lesath's post when you quoted it?...
That's just... very strange...
Honestly the fact that it's so needlessly provocative is what makes me more convinced that it's just posturing for marketing. Maybe I'm being too forgiving though. He's certainly gone off on people for silly things in the past, like when he went on a rant about how stupid people were for floating him as a possible Lex Luthor in Batman V Superman. He seemed to think that the only reason anyone might think that was because he was bald and not because he'd just spent five seasons playing one of the greatest villains in tv history :-/
Maybe he's just a cantankerous person? Or gets annoyed at press junkets?
My Keyboard Is Really Fucked Up For Some Reason, Its Strange, Sometimes It Actually Lets A Word Be A Lowercase Fucking Letter But Thats Very Rare
I Must Have Fucked Something Up in My Settings
Is this problem on a mobile device or a laptop/desktop?
Ah, no, no, not his fault. I originally posted it with the caps because it was annoying me, but I felt it was too mean so I edited it out. He caught it anyway, so there we are. I'll be sure to add a note before my edits next time.
haha why do you keep talking about free speech? nobody is stopping you from saying anything.
