I think they already did. These are just cleverly-disguised roulette machines.
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Bungie is looking for Designers to create "player progression behind lootboxes"
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I think they already did. These are just cleverly-disguised roulette machines.
I will buy this with all expansions at sub $20.
The PS4 has much more "single fun single player games with replayability" than the Switch, they're not even in the same league, the gap gets even worse if you leave out the Wii U ports.
Thankfully as it is now
Bright Engrams aren't tied to progression.... but they are getting closer every year and D2 has the WORST implementation of Eververse yet... full stop
The solution?
Eververse Exclusive pool should be TINY like it was in D1.... with everything else being able to DROP in the game world from various activities (maybe even exclusive to certain activities)
Eververse should only serve 2 functions.
- The ability to defeat game world drop RNG and cycle all possible world drops for a reasonable bright dust cost
- To offer the crazy off the wall shit that is very limited
So basically..... how it fuckking worked in D1 for the most part. I hate that I keep getting blue in the face saying it. D1 had good things that should have carried over. The Reboot idea is a massive failure
Bright Engrams aren't tied to progression.... but they are getting closer every year and D2 has the WORST implementation of Eververse yet... full stop
The solution?
Eververse Exclusive pool should be TINY like it was in D1.... with everything else being able to DROP in the game world from various activities (maybe even exclusive to certain activities)
Eververse should only serve 2 functions.
- The ability to defeat game world drop RNG and cycle all possible world drops for a reasonable bright dust cost
- To offer the crazy off the wall shit that is very limited
So basically..... how it fuckking worked in D1 for the most part. I hate that I keep getting blue in the face saying it. D1 had good things that should have carried over. The Reboot idea is a massive failure
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Destiny 2 for me is the last straw, no more money from me.
Sorry, I'm a little lost. When the hell did 'chase' become a noun, and what does it mean?
American business needs to wind its neck in with the English language.
American business needs to wind its neck in with the English language.
noun
noun: chase; plural noun: chases
1.
an act of pursuing someone or something.
I was thinking about buying the game after I played some of the trial on the PS4.
Not anymore, I will expend my money elsewhere.
Not anymore, I will expend my money elsewhere.
:p very funny
Ok, I mean as in an uncountable noun. I know what, say, a chase scene or a police chase is, but 'we need more chase in our game' makes me think that a) there aren't enough speeder pursuits and b) English isn't this guy's first language.
Ok, I mean as in an uncountable noun. I know what, say, a chase scene or a police chase is, but 'we need more chase in our game' makes me think that a) there aren't enough speeder pursuits and b) English isn't this guy's first language.
I never said it didn't. Why are you replying to me? The person I was quoting was acing as if solid fun was obsolete and I was providing a counter example
Just reading the title made me feel sick.
This is what Bungie wants to prioritize, the same Bungie that brought us one of the best system selling FPS franchises. That talent is long gone.
This is what Bungie wants to prioritize, the same Bungie that brought us one of the best system selling FPS franchises. That talent is long gone.
The end game is pretty much just grind for Eververse items as is, anymore focus on it and I'm out.
Not until the player base rejects this shit outright by just not spending money on it.
At least Nintendo still exists and is thriving otherwise I would look for another hobby to dump disposable income to.
The fact that Destiny 2 looked like the same unfulfilling gameplay loop as the first they are now just making it worse for the people that do enjoy it. Like this isn't going to make more people buy your game.
I dunno pick your games better? I haven't dealt with crap like this all year lol. From AAA to indie.
A single platform isn't the only one making single player games.
Don't say I didn't warn you 2.
Indies. They don't always get it right but there's a fuckton more games worth your money than the AAA space that aren't trying to actively fuck you.
That's the problem though: what you just described was not what the first was like for the majority of its three years. It had very rough patches in the first year but they kept improving it.
They have a very fulfilling "gameplay loop" in Destiny 1 when Destiny 2 came out. And they went backwards.
The Destiny gameplay loop is one of the most satisfying out there for many people which is why there is such a strong following of the first one. The problem here is that in the sequel they are removing or changing so many things that made Destiny appealing to begin with and from this news it doesn't seem like they are turning it around anytime soon.
It's very strange to see all these people that hated Destiny 1 screaming I told you so about 2 when the complaints about 2 are mostly that it isn't enough like the first one.
Okay... I thought you were implying that fun games only exist on Switch.
Aren't Engrams enough???
How would loot boxes be different?
Engrams are RNG "containers" that drop randomly, that you can get as a reputation reward or that you can buy with silver/cash.
What else would they add that doesn't already accomplish that same thing?
How would loot boxes be different?
Engrams are RNG "containers" that drop randomly, that you can get as a reputation reward or that you can buy with silver/cash.
What else would they add that doesn't already accomplish that same thing?
I meant for me personally 1 nor 2 does much for me. If you guys like it cool. It just seems like Destiny 2 is going about it even worse than 1 in terms of other stuff now and that's a damn shame.
When Bungie signed on with Activision I knew we would get nickle and dimed. 3 months after release and they already have a $20 expansion, the whole IP is set up as a business model to maximize revenue.
I like that they're pretty much confirming that they're using data analytics to change payout rates on the fly to maximize ahem engagement.
This is why we need regulation so bad. Not because you have this one time possibility to do a wager with some money, but because it's embedded in an intelligent system that can actively prey on people.
Card games can't do that, the packages are printed months before people can buy them. Slot machines aren't allowed to do it. Changing payout rates on the fly is a criminal offence that leads to hefty fines or worse.
In games it's """engagement design""" and companies openly boast about it on their job listings.
PC and PS4 say hi as well.
What Bungie's doing is more disgusting then EA. I hope everyone is able to get their money refunded.
Thank your local deity or not for Nintendo.
I'm really kind of baffled as to why I'm still spending more time on the Switch than I am my brand new $500 Xbox One X.
I think I'm finally just done with modern AAA gaming. And games in general with hooks out constantly fishing for your wallet.
It's about the most profit for a long time and lootboxes are perfect for that. Remember when we everyone thought DLC are enough to cover the cost of high budget games? now we have DLC + Lootboxes and just like DLC, the implementation is getting worse and worse. It's like EA wanted to test how far they can push and doing it for the sake of the entire industry but it gladly backfired. I'm with the government interfering because things are getting too far.
We still have some indies that do it for pure love. other japanese games expecting good return. We still have Nintendo.
I was more or less spared since 90% of AAA games don't appeal to me gameplay wise (at least Western ones) gratefully but yeah this stuff keeps getting worse.
Who wants to bet exotic guns will be behind some form of paid micro transactions in Destiny 3.
Especially if they make crazy overpowered ones, aka icebreaker, hawkmoon, gjallahorn.
Especially if they make crazy overpowered ones, aka icebreaker, hawkmoon, gjallahorn.
- Use data and design sensibilities to define strategies for maintaining ideal engagement patterns and maximizing player satisfaction
Barely played this game despite owning it at launch. My incentives for playing it are becoming less and less :(
Given the dire revelation that has Fallen before us, I think you've Taken this joke too far.
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Ramen.