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Bungie splits with Activision; retains ownership of Destiny IP
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they'd be fucked. Tiger Engine is a dumpster fire.
We'll probably get bi-annual expansions.
After MS an now Activision, maybe they wil go meet EA and finish like all thoses beloved studios
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Hey Trim! OMG it has been so long since you posted in Destiny threads! How have you been? We all thought you were gone for good.
How is life?
Is the Destiny lore and world that popular. Maybe they should work on a new IP or Msncan buy them back and have them make a Halo RPG.
Very,
It's probably one of youtube's larger lore communities.
There's already a studio that's been making Halo for over half a decade now
It did. The original deal was that they wouldn't be allowed to publish any new Destiny for two years after the end of the contract, but it's possible Activision agreed to let that go to get out of the deal early. Either that or Bungie might have given them some money, or agreed to forgo some future royalty payments. Either way, the deal got done.
Very,
It's probably one of youtube's larger lore communities.
There's already a studio that's been making Halo for over half a decade now
Oh is Halo Infinite going to be a RPG?
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You know that Bungie is 700+ persons studio? :D They are not small. And because of that currently they are unsustainable as independent unless they find a lot of new projects to work on.
Well as someone who just recently got into Destiny 2 and enjoys it that's amazing news! I hope the game and any future games of them will be better without Activision squeezing so hard on the money-making side of things.
I don't think Activision are too bothered tbh, Forsaken didn't meet their sales target. Bungie would have had the IP secured in their original agreement. Now they have to self publish like they tried after they left Microsoft which didn't work out and they had to go under Activisions wings.
I want this to be good news for Bungie and Destiny, but remain cautious.
What about Vicarious Visions? It probably means it's the end of them working on Destiny, which is a shame. They were instrumental in paving the road for Forsaken with Warmind. A lot of content that worked in Forsaken was first tested in the second DLC.
I am kinda scared for the franchise, to be honest. If Bungie had problems with content when they were supported by two other studios then I am not sure how they are planning to avoid that when they are alone.
I am kinda scared for the franchise, to be honest. If Bungie had problems with content when they were supported by two other studios then I am not sure how they are planning to avoid that when they are alone.
It would be a hell of loot raid if VV went with Bungie, those guys love Destiny
Yeah seems like Activation soured on this series when it went into decline and didn't meet their expectations so they cut it loose.
People are spinning that into this being some sort of miracle for Bungie.
Vicarious Visions are probably working on a new Crash Bandicoot game, doubt we'll see them do any more work on Destiny
Holy shit, I missed this. Does Bungue has enough money to keep making AAA massive service games by themselves?
Let's ask the COD devs how they've met Activision's expectations
Or wait let's ask Blizzard how this is working out for them as well.
Some of y'all chomping at the bit. Imagine going to bat for Activision.
Not saying Bungle haven't shit the bed on several occasions.
We have a lot of good examples of big developers self-funding and publishing "AAA" games or service games.
Also, Bungie received a 100m USD investement from Netease.
Bungie had trouble pumping out content ... had 2 other studio's working alongside them .. we got Curse of Osiris (meh) and Warmind (yay). Forsaken did alot of things right ... but now, having cut away from Activision, it means Bungie is all alone. No way is the studio big enough to give us a steady stream of content...
In practice this should mean the content cycle of Destiny can change since everyone working on one game for once would be a miracle. Versus having the main team immediately dump out a final product and move onto a new one.
Yeah I know. But if they are unsustainable as an independent they will be under a parent company too. I guess they could hire out a lot on contracts to other companies but it sounds like they are too big for the income they make.
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and took 100M from netease...yeah know...the guys who are doing Diablo Immortal. Yeah those guys. https://www.scmp.com/tech/enterpris...k-its-appeal-western-gamers-even-it-out-sells
My guess the money was down payment to just buy them.
There is a good chance Bungie messed up. Their problems could have been more them than activisions publishing. Part of the issue was not just when stuff came out but what was delivered. This move with Netease seems desperate, much like the diablo one. Don't know. But I don't think this is a good thing. Maybe its good news for chinese gamers.
and took 100M from netease...yeah know...the guys who are doing Diablo Immortal. Yeah those guys. https://www.scmp.com/tech/enterpris...k-its-appeal-western-gamers-even-it-out-sells
My guess the money was down payment to just buy them.
There is a good chance Bungie messed up. Their problems could have been more them than activisions publishing. Part of the issue was not just when stuff came out but what was delivered. This move with Netease seems desperate, much like the diablo one. Don't know. But I don't think this is a good thing. Maybe its good news for chinese gamers.
Maybe they will change the way content is delivered and also the nature of that content. I never invested in Destiny because the whole way content was added and priced seemed ridiculous to me.
I'm glad they cut ties with Activision. This, in a way, allows Bungie to tell the story they've always wanted to tell. Because they had it all planned out in Destiny 1 ... but that shit went right out the window thanks to Activision.
But this also might have a downside to it all. Bungie is nowhere near big enough to supply the Destiny players with a steady stream of content.. which is needed to keep players invested in their IP.
But this also might have a downside to it all. Bungie is nowhere near big enough to supply the Destiny players with a steady stream of content.. which is needed to keep players invested in their IP.
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At least they had Activision that was willing to put serious money into marketing that helped them move units. Also Activision was one who paid bills.
Bungie is big enough, but they are not efficient enough. They have manpower but tools and workflows are nightmare.
Let's be honest here. They'll probably end up partnering with another large publisher like IO did with Hitman. All these large publishers think the same way. Activision isn't special at all. Ubi, EA, WB, etc they all pull the same crap.
It will be difficult to self publish a AAA scale game like Destiny on their own.
Are you telling me that the franchise has a chance now? I wish they stick with their original vision now or better create a completely new sci-fi IP.
That's big news though and I'm certain they are for the better. More game,less marketing please
That's big news though and I'm certain they are for the better. More game,less marketing please
Pleased for Bungie that they have their independence and can work on exactly what they want.
I'm also a bit worried about what this news means for Blizzard. Given the news about them and Activision recently I bet they're thinking I wish we were in Bungie's situation now. Hopefully the future and direction of Blizzard's games won't be affected now that they're pretty much Activision's only big IPs besides of course COD.
I'm also a bit worried about what this news means for Blizzard. Given the news about them and Activision recently I bet they're thinking I wish we were in Bungie's situation now. Hopefully the future and direction of Blizzard's games won't be affected now that they're pretty much Activision's only big IPs besides of course COD.
I see. I don't play MP games, especially online ones. I thought maybe with this development, we could get a Destiny game with a rich SP offline campaign.
It does not. 30 is an arbitrary representation of "long enough". It's my personal sweet spot.
I would take a new IP too TBH but as someone who has never played Destiny, I am curious about it. Just not an MP person though.
Bungie is obviously very valuable, but their value will be very dependent on what type of publisher they choose to work with.
For instance, Activision seemingly couldn't help them with their engine, efficiency, management problems, or lack of vision for Destiny. A good publisher could help them with those things and help them get quality content out in a more reasonable amount of time. I think Destiny would have turned out very different if they had partnered with say, Ubisoft. Who is a dramatically better managed publisher than Activision.
If they were to go to EA, i don't think Destiny improves at all and i think we'd have another Activision situation all over again.
Everything you see in Tangled Shore (which is where the whole main campaign is set) was done by High Moon studios.
Also Reach was their best campaign though
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Or a third party banked rolled everything : curious
