I never fancied Warframe as a looker, and whilst on a technical level Anthem is a step above destiny, it falls flat compared to Destiny's art, that shit just oozes class.
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Bungie splits with Activision; retains ownership of Destiny IP
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I never fancied Warframe as a looker, and whilst on a technical level Anthem is a step above destiny, it falls flat compared to Destiny's art, that shit just oozes class.
CD Project RED is owned by CD Project which is by itself a publisher.
Today's TWAB should be good.
They were hinting at something yesterday.
I'm guessing cross play or cross save.
They were hinting at something yesterday.
I'm guessing cross play or cross save.
I personally like Warframe's look. It's doing some really nice things with rendering and the devs updated every single piece of asset when they made the shift to PBR materials a few years back. All that engine change while still having the same SKU without requiring a brand new game.I never fancied Warframe as a looker, and whilst on a technical level Anthem is a step above destiny, it falls flat compared to Destiny's art, that shit just oozes class.
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Not needed.....only online do I hear people clamoring for cross-play. Friends interested to play with their friends will text, call, email, WhatsApp, IM, FBM, Kik, Tinder, iMessage, etc. and coordinate on what console to buy.
Right now, Bungie needs to focus in the story-writing and improving the online performance of Destiny to win the playerbase back. If they still care about Destiny, since Matter is probably their priority.
So if Bungie are publishing this themselves, does that make them an indie dev?
Thats your example...? >.> err thats a SUPER generic looking bad guy my dudeI never fancied Warframe as a looker, and whilst on a technical level Anthem is a step above destiny, it falls flat compared to Destiny's art, that shit just oozes class.
I'm on mobile and it was the only gif I could find, I thougth Oryx was rather imposing chap.
Look at him, absolute unit
CDPR is owned by CDP a publisher that also owns GoG and is based out of Poland which is a huge financial advantage when it comes to overhead.
The cephlopod inspired frames never jived with me.
Why do the tendrals coming out of my arms have tendrals of their own?
I could tell you but I'd have to spoil you or anyone who reads this on one of the most amazing done things in Warframe or twists in general
The Warframes themselves are infections covered in armor, they are basically a dead carcass reanimated with no mind of their own and are controller by super psychic children who you get to control as well at will during gameplay since they end up teleporting to the location at the press of a button due to their link with the frames.
But not all frames are like that:
Also the frames are super customisable and you can mix and match each piece of armor pretty easily. So there's that too. It's just that people really like long trailing braids, tendrils, cloak and stuff because it looks really nice while running, jumping and flying.
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Where in the post you are responding to did I mention Fortnite?
Wasn't referring specifically to your post, I used fortnite as an example as it is currently the f2p gold standard
Got a source on that? Even if that is the case, I think it's naive to assume that Bungie is going to suddenly turn Destiny isn't a buy once, play forever except for expansions game. There'll be some kind of recurring revenue model for them because that's how all service games exist nowadays.
?? Wasn't the TWAB yesterday which announced the split?
That'd be awesome, but I'm pessimistic that's what they'd try to do considering they already have a hard time keeping old content that's already in D2 relevant. Then again an overhaul in lieu of a sequel would be a good time to try it.
No, this idea that every questionable decision is the publishers decision is.
As if bungie did it all against their will.
Nah, they said TWAB was delayed a day to make that announcement.
No more bullshit from Activision thank god.
We can finally see Destiny 3 to it's full potential
In the original contract it says that Activision can retain publishing rights for two years for the titles they originally published. That might have been changed, but it's entirely possible that Destiny 1 & 2 and all the content associated with it will have the Activision name on it for the next couple of years. In that case, Bungie might have to release a new version of Destiny just to get away from that. It would make sense for that version of the game to be the platform they build on from now on.
Just my 5 cents. I assume that Activision has come to realize that in Destiny's case Gaas does not equal guaranteed unlimited growth and safe, easy money. It think they're ok with this.
...that's BO4 money.
I think it's more that the deal was due to expire, and Bungie had no interest in renewing it. Given that Bungie owned the IP, it made more sense for Activision to walk away now rather than fund a project they were unlikely to receive a substantial benefit from. Because they had a traditional boxed publishing deal with Bungie, their interest was in getting all the revenue up front. That's why Destiny was developed as a traditional boxed retail product, and not GaaS. This split should hopefully mean Destiny will now be a true service based game.
Cross play and progression would be huge for Destiny. Bungie has an incentive to do it too, because idiots like me would totally double dip so that I can raid at 60fps but still play with my PSN friends. I'd still play PVP on PS4 though, cos I'm too old now to do m&kb against the kids on PC these days.
I think that likely would have changed with the way they were released from the contract. But we likely won't get any real details on that for a long time.
Coming from Luke Smith Im like:
You were the reason D2 launched the way it did.
While Luke has definitely said some things that deserve to get dragged, he's receiving an undue amount of blame for the mismanagement of Bungie's senior leadership.
If you've been in it for the long haul and followed D1 (Jason Schrier's Blood, Sweat, and Pixels) & D2's (multiple This Week at Bungie updates) development woes, you'll know that in both cases, 1 yr to 1.5 years from launch both titles were essentially rebooted at senior leadership's behest ie above both Luke and Mark Noseworthy's pay grades.
In D2's case in particular, not only was it rebooted but just prior to that, I think before the April update, Bungie promoted a new CEO whom had been in charge of Marketing and then Luke was given creative control of D2. So he had a limited timetable to get a minimum viable product out for D2's launch. I believe D2's casual launch was equal parts: Activision's meddling for more revenue (ie strong mtx push), a new CEO with Marketing and not a gaming background focus, Jason Jones and other senior leaders wishy-washiness, the reboot and lack of time to build deep RPG systems and endgame investment.
Luke was the lead for Vault of Glass, widely regarded as D1Y1's pinnacle content. Had he had more time and more control (I think Jason Jones needs to go, he's had his time to shine), D2Y1 would've been a much different picture.
That being said I'm cautiously neutral here, because under Jason Jones Bungie has proven that they don't have an internal focus audience picked (hardcore v casual), they can't keep to an acceptable content rollout schedule for a GAAS (I'm sorry but the TTK drought with only live team event & barebones content minimal updates was absolutely dreadful, I left for Division during that time), and until Jan '18 proved to be absolutely inept at the constant communication and openness that a game company needs in the year of our Lord 2019.
I can only hope that the lack of a leash doesn't cause Bungie's communication pattern's to relapse and for the content rollout to dry up. As much as I love Forsaken (and I do because I'm a Destiny Fanboy), Destiny can't coast a year on just that size expansion, live team updates/events aren't going to keep me invested, and the slow trickle of Black Armory still isn't enough content for a GAAS.
I'm not sure how Bungie solves the rollout problem since even with 1K plus heads (VV & High Moon which they're losing) they won't be able to keep up. Maybe they go on a hiring spree, but a year drought isn't sustainable, the player dropoff from TTK -> RoI is all you need to look at to know that.
They will need to add new modes/content that have high replayability and desirable loot. Also, they need to bring back D1 content. I think at this juncture the community will be more accepting of recycled content. Bring back random rolls for D2Y1 content such as the old raids and weapons/gear.
Great post, ninja monkey.
I've been thinking same thing regarding content frequency. Even if Bungie is free of Activision's strict requirements, Destiny cannot go months and months without new content. It doesn't matter who's the publisher, the game needs a steady stream of content and the execution has to be solid. Even stuff like the Black Armory content doesn't cut it and over time Destiny becomes more cluttered with older, outdated content and newer shorter less meaningful content. It's not a good look and it actively encourages casual and lapsed players to stay away.
I've been thinking same thing regarding content frequency. Even if Bungie is free of Activision's strict requirements, Destiny cannot go months and months without new content. It doesn't matter who's the publisher, the game needs a steady stream of content and the execution has to be solid. Even stuff like the Black Armory content doesn't cut it and over time Destiny becomes more cluttered with older, outdated content and newer shorter less meaningful content. It's not a good look and it actively encourages casual and lapsed players to stay away.
Wouldn't they need to revamp the creation engine for that?
last i heard the bottleneck for content was the engine?
if they do that might take significant amount of time and investment
Dude looks like a typical demon boss guy from any fantasy sci-fi world, Final Fantasy, Warframe etc. Personally I've always found Destinys art style completely hollow. Just a shell where they make something look or sound cool then work backwards. Alas I just went to the Destiny fashion subreddit, they've got some great designs on there. This particular one encapsulates your 'classy' comment.
That shit looks good.
I checked out the Warframe fashion sub too (some of my favs) after this post and they've got some juicy stuff there. Era got a fashion thread or are these gifs you've made?
Also the frames are super customisable and you can mix and match each piece of armor pretty easily. So there's that too. It's just that people really like long trailing braids, tendrils, cloak and stuff because it looks really nice while running, jumping and flying.
I'm sure it's somewhere out there on the internet. Been forever since I read about it. Probably a kotaku article. And I agree with you.
He looks like a random Tenno to me. lol He was cool but he isn't anything special art wise. (IMO) Destiny's art peaks at weapon design. Amazing stuff there.
One can never be too old for m&kb....I just did some mythic dungeons the other day with a 67 yo WoW player that tanked like a champ.
Cross-save would be great for flexibility, but cross-play is an internet agenda. I don't wanna derail the thread though.
Bungie needs a better story and overall online performance for Destiny going forward. Maybe they can pull an Epic somehow.
Activision are stingy with dedis unlike EA. Bungie should hopefully find a way. Sho knows though...
That shit looks good.
Is this an official set because I needs it. I got the helmet but the reset is needed. And I main a hunter with a support warlock but I was to wizard in style with that set.
Nah, he was dope in all his glory
Character art has always been dope
Not just weapons
This is the only console post I'll respond to because I don't prefer one or the other but the same is true for Sony exclusivity. Look at the output of their first party titles since 2017, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Spider-Man etc , as well as the hype for Ghosts of Tsushima, Last of Us 2, and Death Stranding, and you can see why Sony fans would be equally as excited. Say what you will about Sony's platform lock-in tactics but they support and treat their studios right as well as giving them plenty of time to develop their titles.
Objectively speaking Sony has market dominance right now ie more consoles in people's homes globally right now than Microsoft and thus an exclusive would objectively make much much more money in the near-term for Sony & Bungie than a Bungie & Microsoft one would.
* I am 100% not on-board with either, I'd prefer D3 crossplay/save on all systems including PC.
Tanking is less precise than getting headshots. In any case, when I play FFXIV I main tank and use a Steam controller 😸
I wonder if this means that YouTubers that went to the summit can spill some tea on what happened that made them design D2 like how it was. I remember some of them said that once it was explained to them they understood why bungie chose the more casual route with Y1 D2
I'm wondering if Epic, Microsoft or Amazon could try to get involved in Destiny ?
For Epic, having Destiny exclusive to the Epic store would be huge ! They could make the game a free to play.
Microsoft could try to get the franchise exclusive for next gen. That would be a killer move.
And Amazon who is working on that streaming console. How about getting Destiny as the first big exclusive for the console.
For Epic, having Destiny exclusive to the Epic store would be huge ! They could make the game a free to play.
Microsoft could try to get the franchise exclusive for next gen. That would be a killer move.
And Amazon who is working on that streaming console. How about getting Destiny as the first big exclusive for the console.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see if Destiny 3 is shit or good, how Bungie do without Activision. I'm not too hopeful.
The company name literally been Activision Blizzard and not just Activision for the past decade, Blizzard can't get out, they are owned.
No, you could have that tight Bungo gunplay on any modern engine.
Are they possibly internally capitalized for a game of Destiny's budget?
I love Bungie, and am happy to see them away from Activision, but this is an expensive game and I would worry about financial burdens being too much for an independent studio.
They *must* be landing somewhere. Epic makes sense? Microsoft could given that they had a pretty decent working relationship and the split seemed to be (mostly) amicable? Sony and Amazon can't be discounted either I imagine. I just can't see them staying *fully* indie.
I love Bungie, and am happy to see them away from Activision, but this is an expensive game and I would worry about financial burdens being too much for an independent studio.
They *must* be landing somewhere. Epic makes sense? Microsoft could given that they had a pretty decent working relationship and the split seemed to be (mostly) amicable? Sony and Amazon can't be discounted either I imagine. I just can't see them staying *fully* indie.