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Buzzfeed "An Aspiring Rapper Asleep Inside His Car Was Shot And Killed By California Police"
- Thread starter Detective Loki
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What the fuck. Police out here pretty much playing Mouse Trap, trying to create the most convoluted method to shoot an innocent man.
SIX OFFICERS SHOOTING FOR FOUR SECONDS
SIX OFFICERS SHOOTING FOR FOUR SECONDS
The police should have established a perimeter a few dozen feet away from the car and instructed the driver via bullhorn. While I can't understand why the driver was in the state he was in, there was no pressing need to handle this in a manner that would endanger him or the police. Waking up in that situation while being screamed at would be extremely disorienting.
People generally don't go to sleep in the middle of a drive through with a gun in their lap. I think the police were wrong but these are not the usual circumstances that the "____ while black" would fit into.
People generally don't go to sleep in the middle of a drive through with a gun in their lap. I think the police were wrong but these are not the usual circumstances that the "____ while black" would fit into.
Makes you think twice about calling the police when you see someone sleeping in a car, or some other situation like this.
If you make a phone call to 911 to report something, you're setting into motion events that may lead to that person's death. That's not what "Serve & Protect" should represent, but that's what it's coming down to.
People who make that phone call should start thinking about that before they make the call. Because you don't know what kind of police response you'll get.
If you make a phone call to 911 to report something, you're setting into motion events that may lead to that person's death. That's not what "Serve & Protect" should represent, but that's what it's coming down to.
People who make that phone call should start thinking about that before they make the call. Because you don't know what kind of police response you'll get.
This is a tough call. Like wasn't there bodycam footage of this at all? Dude did have a handgun sitting on his lap so I can get why they were a bit concerned, but to unload on the guy? I need to see something to make any rational judgment on this.
You would tap on the window of someone sleeping in a car with a gun in his lap?
You know what I mean... LOL!!! I ain't waking up no dude sitting in a car with a gun in his lap.
It's a good thing owning a firearm is illegal in the United States.
Oh, wait...
The title is a bit misleading.
"The driver began to suddenly move and looked at the uniformed patrol officers," police said in a statement. "Officers gave the driver several commands to put his hands up. The driver did not comply and instead moved his hands downward toward the firearm."
"The driver began to suddenly move and looked at the uniformed patrol officers," police said in a statement. "Officers gave the driver several commands to put his hands up. The driver did not comply and instead moved his hands downward toward the firearm."
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He was sleeping before they arrived and murdered him
Depends, we'll know when footage is released. Everybody's hands move. Doubt they could prove in those seconds he was moving them towards the gun to shoot them.
Yeah I hear ya
Murder him instead amirite?
These people are supposed to be trained professionals
Also : "Vallejo Police said the firearm, which was recovered after the shooting, was a 40 caliber handgun that was loaded with an extended magazine. It had been reported stolen from Oregon."
There was another incident in oakland maybe 2 years ago - you'd think they have some better way of handling this. When people get awoken like that they're going to be confused
Maybe found the gun in his car... But in his lap? I don't know.
Also doesn't seem like witnesses or whoever called the police noticed a gun in his lap. Possible just looking from a distance, but still...
I wonder... was he holding up the drive-thru, or parked somewhere? lol
Also doesn't seem like witnesses or whoever called the police noticed a gun in his lap. Possible just looking from a distance, but still...
I wonder... was he holding up the drive-thru, or parked somewhere? lol
I'm not saying murder the dude but I want to see some footage to understand why they shot him. It's way too early to pass any real sensible judgment on this matter.
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The problem here is if he wasn't black, and he was white with a gun in his lap.. they probably had guns drawn but knock on the window to wake the guy up.
They created a situation where someone being woken like that is going to lead to a situation where the person doesn't realize what's going on right when they wake.
Fucked up way to approach this. No reason you needed all that back up and all those people opening fire. Knock on the window and see what's up.
They created a situation where someone being woken like that is going to lead to a situation where the person doesn't realize what's going on right when they wake.
Fucked up way to approach this. No reason you needed all that back up and all those people opening fire. Knock on the window and see what's up.
Well, Taco Bell called the cops because he was asleep in a drive thru line.
Yes they gave commands, probably just like Tamir Rice and John Crawford didn't comply with "commands".
Nothing in the OP or article says that. It says they asked him to put his hands up. This is why I want to see some bodycam footage or something before passing judgment
When it's a Black person with a gun or perceived gun, police communicate their commands telepathically, apparently. That would explain the discrepancies between videos showing people being shot on sight and police reports stating the deceased refused to comply after multiple demands from officers on the scene.
Though if he were white, I would have no doubt they would've resolved things without killing him.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm not gonna take the police's word for it without proof.
Tactically speaking cops should shoot anyone they see holding a gun ever, anything else would just be akin to suicide.
Police are going to approach an obviously armed driver differently than an unarmed driver. Moreover, having a loaded handgun in the passenger cabin of the car isn't legal in California even if the weapon is in plain sight. It's even less legal when the firearm is stolen and loaded with an extended capacity magazine; they wouldn't have known it was stolen at the time but a magazine, let alone an extended one, would be clearly visible from outside the car.
Yeah. Although i bet the "gun" was in reality some chocolate bar...
Yeah waiting on some proof for their story, if it's real it's not the smartest thing to do in the first place (sleeping in your car with a gun in your lap ???)
And you know that more likely than not, being shot dead within 2 seconds of waking up is what happened. You will probably get your footage a year from now, after everyone gets their fabricated story straight, and a grand jury considers nothing of value was lost.
Isn't the title a little disingenuous? They didn't shoot him while he was asleep. He allegedly was awake and moved his hands towards his lap where a loaded gun was.
Hopefully we get bodycam footage soon.
Hopefully we get bodycam footage soon.
Well having a gun visible in California is already illegal. You have to have it unloaded, locked and put away here. Extended clips are also illegal. You can't knock on the window unless you a super dumb ass because that's a good way to startle somebody and get shot.
They shouldn't have shot him until the gun was visible from where they were instead of just shooting at any movement. But they're not going to get in trouble over this because that situation is very messy.
They shouldn't have shot him until the gun was visible from where they were instead of just shooting at any movement. But they're not going to get in trouble over this because that situation is very messy.