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California Mosque Set On Fire And Graffitied With Christchurch References
- Thread starter UnpopularBlargh
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Well according to your president, white supremacists aren't a threat so it's ok
Scum gonna scum.
Inland North County gonna inland North County. :/
Lots of white supremacists all around there. Like several hubs and white supremacist organizations in the general area.
Lots of white supremacists all around there. Like several hubs and white supremacist organizations in the general area.
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NZ ramping up gun regulation with the quickness should also embolden us to do the same. One could hope.
They probably are going to? Seems like the story is just breaking. Lay off on your holier than thou schticks until after local politicians refuse to condemn the hate crime.
Local politicians for sure. National, eh they've often disappointed.
I'm sure it's just a very fine person who's slightly troubled. It's the muslim's fault for pushing into these communities anyway. Can't really blame them.
Signed,
- The president and Republican party.
Fucking hell, nothing will be done about it because they will never be condemned nation wide.
If your own leader couldn't outright acknowledge white terrorism is on the rise, what do you expect?
If your own leader couldn't outright acknowledge white terrorism is on the rise, what do you expect?
Nice try Lt. Lick, how about we don't?
Afraid somebody at your tongues lenght might be responsible?
This is exactly what the murderer wanted. An "Us" vs "Them" battle. Did not take long for the shitheels to come out. People are so easily influenced it is pathetic.
People need stop saying this. It's not "Us vs them", "us vs them" would imply that both sides have good intentions and must find the middle ground.
Ok sure, but the problem is one person has outright vilified another group and triggered hatred because of it. People think that it is fine because someone else did it and then act upon it. "The President is racist, therefore it is now the time to do the same". Of course "Us vs them" can be used as a "We're right they're wrong" mentality. It can be categorized as "Othering" . When I say "Us vs them" I don't mean every person, but alt-rights thinking they can dominate or attack another group under the pre-tense of separation and ostracisation.
I'm not sure what you mean by this, I'm taking the side of the mosque. I don't want to see retaliatory attacks on anyone over anything. I am just surprised at how people can think "Well they're attacking a group, therefore now is the time to do it also". We have seen an uprising of acceptance to violence against others and copycat attacks as though it is justified. A "Monkey see, monkey do" attitude.
Ah, that's alright. I was just wondering who the 'us Vs them' even is because it you're talking white supremacists then it is 'us Vs them' and I couldn't see who else you would be talking about as the Christchurch attacks were largely condemned the world over.
Yeah, sorry about the confusion. When I say "Us vs them", I mean alt-right/extremists vs muslims/middle easteners/foreigners. It is the same with that little turd Dylann Roof, who thought he could start a "race war" by shooting up a Charleston church that happens to have a majority African American community.
People have a fascination about separating and vilifying another group in order to justify their actions, and in many cases the "message" is copied.
Yeah, I agree with you completely. No worries about the confusion, that's why I didn't just assume what you meant and reply in kind.
It's whether people have to do that to justify their hatred or whether they hate because they do that. Could be a bit of both I guess. A racial dislike for the group that is socially unacceptable, they get called a racist (rightly) and go to these weird groups on the internet, keep consuming propaganda and the other bollocks they share and it becomes and intense racial hatred which leads some to do this.
It's weird. It's one of those things that's difficult to comprehend when you're not like that.
That's exactly it. I can't comprehend it. It just feels so neanderthal and tribalistic. I've never seen someone attack another group and thing "Yeah, this is fine, I'll join in". I'm just flabbergasted at how mere imagery or symbolism can zombify others into copying, or that they have so much hate in their heart that anything will give them meaning to do such things.
I think what's scarier is that people aren't really immune to it, maybe we are to the extent of the violence that these people commit but the people that believe this stuff aren't inherently evil or moronic, it's something that could theoretically happen to any young person who hasn't properly formed an identity yet. Maybe even some people older than that, too.
Indeed, we're all searching for an identity or a group to fit in. It's just a shame that some find it to be at the expense of others.
It's mind-boggling. White men are just being indoctrinated in droves into this bollocks. Not that it's anything too new. In the UK the fascist right movements of the National Front and it's predecessors and forbearers were much the same.
I actually met a skinhead once, he was dating a girl I was sort of friends with at the time. We had a Muslim friend who came with us and he asked him if he considered himself British or Asian, my mate replied that he was British and the guy replied saying that he's 'one of the good ones' and only had an issue with people who didn't think that.
Like, he said that like he was a reasonable person. Genuinely. Like it was some enlightened viewpoint.
Suffice to say, we left her with him almost immediately and later saw him in town sieg-heiling to other people who were dressed the same (traditional British skinhead attire; braces; doc martins: white shirt).
What's crazy is I'd never seen anything like that up until that point and have never seen it again. Nobody even dressed like that.
It was surreal but served as a lesson that you never know who is like this. It's more worrying to me that that one trip into our town was the only time I've ever noticed something that overt.
Wow, that skinhead had issues, it almost seems like an attention thing. This is the thing though, most Caucasian people have it so good. Better than most in fact. I'm saying this as the whitest guy in the room, I basically have lifes easy mode in many cases. The big problem is when people have it so good, they often think it is going to be taken away from them, like a child with a toy. Nothing is really being taken from them in most cases, but when you cater to fear the fearful become the fear mongers themselves to counteract that feeling. They're going about it the completely wrong way of course.
I think that explains most of it, yeah, I think this guy was just racist as fuck, if I'm being honest.
Aye, occum's racist.
Apologies for the digression off your posts. Hopefully we see less attacks like these but Christchurch has probably made these people feel so emboldened, hopefully they'll fuck off sooner rather than later.
Nope, that's fine and I agree. Fuck them and fuck the horse they rode in on.
The Asian (Pakistani/Indian) community and more recently Muslims in particular have been the subject of this dual loyalty bullshit since forever in thr UK.
See the Tebbit test for just one example of how racists have been using that kind of bullshit to vilify multiculturalism while forcing minorities to conform and be "one of the good ones"
Oh yeah, I've heard it a lot, just only saw it in person in the anecdote I offered.
It's weirder even more given the fact those countries (though admittedly not in the way it's used these days, i.e. adding every Muslim into this) were part of the Empire and are part of the commonwealth.
Pretty sure Tebbit went on to claim several terrorist attacks would be was been avoided if people had listened to him. Utter cunt.
Thing the Birmingham mosque attacks were front-page on BBC for about 10 minutes but yeah, not much at all given the context.