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Camelot wishes to make Shining Force 4 (and other Camelot and Treasure's tidbits)
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I played the 2 gba games and loved them. I never played the ds one and the change to chibi 3d did not encourage me to do so. Was it good? Is the story related to the first 2?
The game follows the children from the first two. I liked it but it got a lot of criticism. It's been a while since I've played it though so I can't say whether it's worth returning to like the first two or, more importantly, the Shining series.
I wonder if the Shining Force games on Steam sold well enough (for Genesis classics) to make Sega interested in doing this, even if it's not a full budget AAA game. I'd still buy it, I love the Shining Force games.
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The jump in production value (both graphics and music) between the best RPG available in previous handheld and Golden Sun was huge, especially if you weren't a WonderSwan importer.
Basically most handheld gamers went from RPGs with NES graphics to RPGs with 32 bit graphics in a short span and that's one of the reason both GS1 and GS2 sold more than 1 million copies (the other reasons was that it was pushed by the console maker early on and that it had little competition due to Square still being banished from publishing games on Nintendo consoles at the time).
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I had been playing games before Shining the Holy Ark, but it was this game that cemented my love for gaming. I absolutely love it and SF3 (Scenario 1) and not much would make me as genuinely happy as having either a remake of SF3 with all 3 scenarios included or a SF4.
If nothing comes of it, the mere fact that the Takahashi brothers would love to do a new game in this beloved series is good enough for me. Because where there is want, there is hope.
If nothing comes of it, the mere fact that the Takahashi brothers would love to do a new game in this beloved series is good enough for me. Because where there is want, there is hope.
Ikaruga sold over 110,000 copies and more than half of those copies sold were at the full release price. I'm pretty sure they made their money back.
I've been waiting for Radiant Silvergun to make it over for a long time.
Sega makes so much money selling hentai to Japanese people that theres no way they'd want to go back to the real stuff.
My first thought when I saw the thread!
I was hoping they were going to partner with Nintendo on Star Fox...
Sega treated Camelot like total shit from the very beginning.
https://www.gamestm.co.uk/uncategorised/behind-the-scenes-shining-force/
https://www.gamestm.co.uk/uncategorised/behind-the-scenes-shining-force/
You'd think with Fire Emblem being made a Nintendo cornerstone, Sega would dust off Shining Force. Turned based strategy RPGs are going to make big comeback shortly. X-Com and FE have paved the way. Heck, even South Park is getting in on the action.
Without those games, Camelot might as well cease to exist as a developer and become a mini TOSE (providing anonymous work for other studios).
I mean also I want Ninty to use them for greater things, but as it was discussed on the other thread...Whole they are almost second party-like, they are independent and could find another publisher if they truly think Ninty is holding them back....
Plus those games they put out for Ninty probably dont have such a long dev cycle (on average each one comes out every two years).
Back in the day, my desire for more Shining Force was rabid. I'm more mellow now, but I'd still buy anything Shining from Camelot in a heartbeat.
If it's closer to II, I'm all in.
I'd also appreciate a Shining in the Darkness sequel, but that's saved for another discussion. ;P
I'd also appreciate a Shining in the Darkness sequel, but that's saved for another discussion. ;P
These types of game dont need AAA budget and they will never break even. Something in the scope of golden sun would be quiet nice.
Time doesn't heal all wounds, especially not the most grievous.
Case in point:
SEGA's Shining franchise producers have very different goals from what the Takahashi brothers could work with. Also, Tony Taka's grip on modern Shining's art and otaku following makes things even more difficult.
III is wonderful. There's an active translation project for scenarios 2 and 3 that's been going on for years. Worth keeping an eye on.
Me too man, me too. :'(
I was hoping Nintendo would fund another game from them but it doesn't look like it's happening.
SF Central has also had scripts for all scenarios of III up forever, if you want to play through the existing ones now. It's a bit of a pain for the in-town dialog but for the main scripted scenario events it works great.
I had no idea that an in-game translation was ongoing though. Can't wait to see how it all turns out.
It's been going for 12 years now, but they're still plugging away. I believe their re-translation of Scenario 1 is 100% complete; the other two scenarios are complete but awaiting final polishing and playtesting. It's been a real labor of love. Nice article on ithere.
Please please please PLEASE, more Shining Force. No Shining action-mash games. Another Strategy RPG.
I'd back it on Kickstarter if I had to.
I'd back it on Kickstarter if I had to.
Wow that's intense. The games are really, really good and any way that more can play them is a very generous contribution to the community.
Yup. If they didn't plan a 4th installment after DD, I would have much prefered the series to have stopped after TLA.
However, it barely sold 80K in Japan and I think didn't sell a whole lot more outside. And, as I can see here, all Camelot games tend to undersell with the first Golden Sun being amongst the exceptions.
I've always preferred Fire Emblem to Shining Force, but I definitely wouldn't mind another Shining Force game. I'd be more interested in another Shining in the Darkness game, though.
And what publisher would do that? With the state of the JP games industry, the moment they let go of Nintendo, they'll be the mini-TOSE, like you said, or will be relegated to mobile games (more so now). If anything, Nintendo is their last chance to spread their wings once more, and that doesn't seem likely at all
This! Also, Dark Dawn was such a case of blue balls. I felt the same about it as I did with SW:EP VII. Camelot tried too much to cash in on nostalgia and ended up doing Golden Sun 1.5. Too bad since the series could go for so much more on Switch.
The jump in production value (both graphics and music) between the best RPG available in previous handheld and Golden Sun was huge, especially if you weren't a WonderSwan importer.
Basically most handheld gamers went from RPGs with NES graphics to RPGs with 32 bit graphics in a short span and that's one of the reason both GS1 and GS2 sold more than 1 million copies (the other reasons was that it was pushed by the console maker early on and that it had little competition due to Square still being banished from publishing games on Nintendo consoles at the time).
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I loved GS 1, 2, Mario Tennis and Golf on the GBA. There was a certain touch to Camelot's games that you couldn't find anywhere else. It's baffling how the series went from being a large success to completely absent. Then again, Camelot had only planned a single game, which was split into two once the game's scope and hardware limitations became known.
If they do end up releasing another Shining game, I'll look forward to checking it out. They've been sort of given the Rareware treatment for far too long now, having only released Mario sports titles as of late.
A confirmed genealogy tree would be nice at the very least. I still don't know exactly who Amiti is (assuming the hair is a clue though).
Shining Force 4 though. Count me in. I still regret selling my gba game, which was a nice bootleg with 1&2 IIRC. Such good back stories to those games, and also Golden Sun. Camelot really knows how to craft a world.
Agreed. I they made something and it was just another weird spinoff, it would only break my heart more.
Shining Force IV has a lot of potential backstory to build from, since central and eastern Parmecia in III seems largely disconnected from western Parmecia in II. I'd love to see a new Force game with a premise and cast which effortlessly connects a bunch of lingering plot ideas and connections between characters hailing from different parts of Parmecia, the outlying lands, Gran Island, and even the continents of Rune way out west. Really, letting all this sit and collapse into dust would be a regret.
