It's for the buyer who would've gotten a Canon Rebel T7 if it werent for youtubers saying that you need full frame. It's clearly meant to be their entry level body, and Canon is remaining consistent by withholding features from lower-end models. It's priced a good 400€ higher than the Sony A7ii here in Finland, but I bet it is still going to sell well simply on name recognition.It's almost like Canon is targeting the R(i)P for the Canon fanboy/uninformed buyer.
Speaking of Canon:
Pretty fair and balanced review all things considered but I kinda can't believe Canon is wiling to put this out there. Jordan practically shits on it and says to get an XT-3 or G85 if you want to do video lmao. And Chris was basically like "yes this is good but..." multiple times throughout the review, it's like caveat central lol. It's almost like Canon is targeting the R(i)P for the Canon fanboy/uninformed buyer.
I honestly had this thing on my shortlist too but the impressions and reviews I've seen of this thing clearly aren't intended for me, nor does it seem to really have a target audience besides the ones I mentioned. I could probably live with the APS-C equivalent crop of 4K video, but no 24fps on 1080 and the lack of log video or at least something like Cinelike to make up for the crop is kinda absurd imo. Also the ISO performance being worse compared to an A7ii and D750 is just ridiculous... what the hell is even the point of this camera?
Anyway, I'm still waiting for Adorama to give me the final quotes for my gear. I'm still hoping to get an A7Rii but I'll definitely be more than okay with the G85 and a speedbooster for my Nikon lenses. Hopefully they call me really soon, I need this thing in like 3 weeks lol.
It's for the buyer who would've gotten a Canon Rebel T7 if it werent for youtubers saying that you need full frame. It's clearly meant to be their entry level body, and Canon is remaining consistent by withholding features from lower-end models. It's priced a good 400€ higher than the Sony A7ii here in Finland, but I bet it is still going to sell well simply on name recognition.
Yeah most of us in here are not the demographic for this camera. I'm honestly just hitting the point where I have to look very hard at what I'm buying because Canon is pretty much that "Why would I buy this?" brand since I have enough mounts to the point that adding another one really has to add something for me.You guys are ignoring the photo-only Canon customer, of which there are MANY. The RP/RF combo will be a significant step up from people with aging T#i models that want full frame. These folks are the same ones that would buy into the 6D lineup, which never did good video either, and those cameras were still very popular. They've never had niceties like dual SD so they'll never miss it, nor are they shooting professionally. It's a huge market for Canon, and RP is definitely priced right for the segment.
I paid $1300 for my used 5D classic in 2007 when I had my own crop to FF moment, and the RP is WAY more capable at the same price point than my lowly 5D was, and that's not even taking inflation into account.
It's a shit cam for those of us who have progressed beyond its capabilities, but it was never for us anyways. There's a ton of excitement for it on the few photog boards I frequent among that crowd. Having a bunch of people using the RF lens ecosystem is also fantastic for everyone in the RF ecosystem because it means cheap used gear.
Yeah most of us in here are not the demographic for this camera. I'm honestly just hitting the point where I have to look very hard at what I'm buying because Canon is pretty much that "Why would I buy this?" brand since I have enough mounts to the point that adding another one really has to add something for me.
Correction, it's an over priced soccer mom camera. Everybody in here knows what demographic that camera is aimed at.But smartphones are already soccer mom cameras. Don't think soccers mom would spend over $1000 on a camera. Although when you mean a literal soccer mom wanting to take soccer pics of her child.
You guys did a SHIT job talking me out of this so thanks for nothing.
This is like me getting mad at people when I bought the A7RII.You guys did a SHIT job talking me out of this so thanks for nothing.
MILCs are great for breathing new life into old vintage lenses so not sure why you're mad. (Though Fuji is better in this regard IMO)You guys did a SHIT job talking me out of this so thanks for nothing.
The 24-105 is a damn fine lens. It just got a price drop today too, although it's cheating since they bumped up the price a few months ago.
Narrator: it wontHah, I'm just messin, this will keep me from spending 700 on a Canon 135 so it's a net gain.
Yeah 100 instant rebate at least in Amazon and adorama so I assume is wideIt got a price cut? Sure you're not confusing it for the Canon lens? Seems to be full price here and I can't find anything about a drop.
Those top dials belong on a Fender amp. Is the front face of the camera...marble?Looks tacky as shit, but there will always be this abomination from the darkest Hasselblad age:
That's hideous.Looks tacky as shit, but there will always be this abomination from the darkest Hasselblad age:
This was the Lunar, a luxury custom version of the Nex-7.
If you have nikon glass that works with the ftz that's not a bad choice, I rented a z6 with the 24-70 f4 lens and it was very niceI need help buying a new camera. I'm coming from a Nikon D600 which I loved. I want to go Mirrorless. Being familiar with Nikon the Z6 is looking pretty good plus all the reviews I've found online say it's the best bang for the buck. The Sony A7iii is also in consideration. I mostly take picks on vacations but I take a ton of pics. Very much just a hobbiest photographer.
What is ERA's thoughts on this?
I need help buying a new camera. I'm coming from a Nikon D600 which I loved. I want to go Mirrorless. Being familiar with Nikon the Z6 is looking pretty good plus all the reviews I've found online say it's the best bang for the buck. The Sony A7iii is also in consideration. I mostly take picks on vacations but I take a ton of pics. Very much just a hobbiest photographer.
What is ERA's thoughts on this?
I'll likely trade in my 1 Tamron lens so not at all invested in Nikon lenses. Fast moving? Probably fasted thing I've shot is a horse running. Some other mild action scenes. Low light situations happen fairly often. Very little if any video will be taken.
Thanks for the advice. So much to consider so these kind of comments really help.If tracking subjects or taking bursts of action scenes is a priority, I wouldn't recommend either Nikon or Canon's mirrorless offerings, at least this first generation. I bet they will be vastly improved with the second generation, but they are way behind compared to Sony and Fuji at the moment.
Personally, I think Sony offers the most capable packages for competitive prices right now, but it's hard to tell where the Nikon Z and EOS R systems will go. I think their next revisions should be pretty exciting. Either way, if you have the chance, go out to a shop and try some of them out.
This is a big part of it. Loved my D600 but it just got too heavy after a long hike. I'll take a look at what Fuji is offering.I do a lot of hiking, swimming and physical activities and I don't like carrying heavy gear anymore.
Go for an X100F. It's not an ILC but IMO it's perfect for hiking and photo walks.This is a big part of it. Loved my D600 but it just got too heavy after a long hike. I'll take a look at what Fuji is offering.
What is your lens budgeting? I wouldn't really go Nikon mirrorless if you're photographing stuff on the regular that moves, also if you're not heavily invested in full frame Nikon glass. I ran into the same thing awhile back and ended up landing on a really good Sony A7R2 deal that I couldn't pass up. I'm also in Fuji and love that as well, I would recommend either a Fuji X-T2 or X-T3. What's your exact budget?This is a big part of it. Loved my D600 but it just got too heavy after a long hike. I'll take a look at what Fuji is offering.
You can get a Z6 and maybe a D850...used or something I don't know, she gets the better camera though. This is a really specific caveat in here.Thanks for all the replies. I don't want to quote everyone but I really appreciate the help.
I'm looking at around a $1500 trade in value plus up to $3000 on top of that so up to $4500. I need(want) two cameras. The mirrorless for mostly me and a DSLR for mostly my wife. I want to be able to share lenses between the two if possible. Not necessarily going to buy everything all at once.