The problem with that line of thinking is the selfish assumption that everybody thinks the gameplay in The Witcher 3 is bad and that those who like it do so purely for other reasons. But that's not the case for everyone: many of us do enjoy the gameplay.
I really enjoy movement, moment to moment gameplay and especially combat in The Witcher 3.
Do poor controls necessarily make for bad gameplay? The poor controls are part what make things like Surgeon Simulator and QWOP fun, right? Doesn't that mean the gameplay is good?
lol, dito.
Second that as well. The combat in 2 tried to move forward, to something that it would finally become in The Witcher 3. But in 2, the feedback and especially range perception was awful. The controls weren't exactly brilliant either because animation transitions were abrupt and there was still some precision being lost.
That's an interesting point, though I would probably describe it as having challenging controls rather than poor. I'm thinking about games such as Octodad and Human: Fall Flat though because I haven't played Surgeon Simulator but it's similar in concept I think?
The vast majority don't find the games to have bad gameplay and they're actually renowned for that so, no, not really
I'd argue that yes, bad controls lead to bad gameplay because the act of playing isn't very enjoyable. The physics and humor is what makes those enjoyable - not necessarily fun, but funny. That's how I see the games myself, anyway. Can't speak for everyone else.
None of them are good in The Witcher 3.
Call it what you will, but they're poor lol. You have poor control of your character in those games, and that's part of what makes it challenging and fun. Those games became little mainstream hits though because they're bite-sized. Something like a full-length horror game with intentionally clunky controls is going to have a harder time breaking out.
Ultimately, I don't really see a difference between those things. To me it's all engagement. Whether I'm laughing, crying, enthralled, horrified, and sometimes even annoyed.
Over the top hyperbole with a lot of what you say isn't even true and just comes across as you hating the game.
I guess it comes down to perspective but I don't think "poor" is an adequate descriptor for the kind of controls in those physics-based games, at least not for something like Human: Fall Flat, where you can get really good at the platforming. It's different in scope as well compared with conventional platformers that don't allow as much experimentation with their more simplified controls.
I'm not expert or reviewer so I am not used to extrapolating my thoughts like that. So idk how to really articulate why I felt that way. All I know is playing it the gameplay didn't feel like fun. Everything else was great but didn't feel fun. Whereas MGSV for example the gameplay was amazing yet everything around it sucked.
