Can we talk about how 40% of the Smash Bros season pass is linked to homophobia?

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Raijinto

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One character I see already out and I've had my money's worth already, and The Hero looks great too.

I despise the DQ composer and every instance of homophobia in Persona 5 (one of the GOATS still) as much as anyone but I don't regret buying the pass and I don't blame Nintendo/Sakurai for picking them. It sucks but at least as far as Smash is concerned it will not be prevalent as it was in P5 and I'd like to think that that scumbag sees very little revenue increase from DQ here.
 

Oddish1

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I kind of agree. I don't feel comfortable buying Dragon Quest anything because Sugiyama is linked so heavily to the series and how it's marketed so I'm relieved I didn't buy the season pass
 

Blayde

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pretty sure you can link anything to something shitty if you reach far enough. whats the deal with this forum and fucking digging so hard to find something shitty? jesus christ.
 

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WetWaffle

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I thought people saw the P5 scene and The DQ composer as a real problem but now they should apparently not be brought up bc Smash Bros
 

Springy

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I don't agree with OP but cut out the really hostile replies, it's not a personal attack on you.
 

Hours Left

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The claim against Persona has merit because the game itself has homophobia in it. DQ is more complicated.

Also the people piling in here to basically say “shut up, just play the game” are being super gross. This is a legitimate topic of concern and just because it ruffles your feathers doesn’t mean it’s “political correctness gone mad”.
 

Chewie

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Queer people don’t really get to turn off being queer. You can be okay with these characters getting in Smash (I like Persona and DQ myself in spite of all this shit), but that doesn’t give anybody an excuse to diminish the feelings people have on these issues.
I think Sugiyama is a piece of shit and Atlus has a horrible track record when it comes to LGBTQ representation, but some people on ERA seriously enjoy reaching in a desperate attempt to try to prove a point, which makes the forum so unappealing for so many.
 

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you guys are doing this on purpose at this point lol
 

mjc

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pretty sure you can link anything to something shitty if you reach far enough. whats the deal with this forum and fucking digging so hard to find something shitty? jesus christ.
It goes beyond personal values to outrage culture.
 

Apollo

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the amount of replies in this thread that boil down to telling the OP “fuck off” for even daring to address the absolutely massive elephant in the room are truly Illuminating

pride month y’all
 
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Why did this Sugiyama stuff surface only now? It's been known in Japan for years. Why is it only suddenly relevant when DQ is in the spotlight?
I think you're answering your own question. DQ in the spotlight means people talk about it more than they would otherwise.

Granted, I do feel like it's a bit of a stretch of association to be upset about a character from a game being included because that character's home series has a composer that's a bigot.
 

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