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Can you afford a $1,000 unexpected expense?

  • Yes - I can cover it with cash

    Votes: 1,962 79.7%
  • No - I'd have to go into debt in order to cover it

    Votes: 500 20.3%

  • Total voters
    2,462

Laser Man

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,683
I can, actually a lot more than 1000. But this comes from more than 20 years of saving money so it still stings when I have too, (which is not often, thank god)
 

My Neighbor Totoro

Alt-Account
Member
Apr 7, 2019
45
Yes. That should be step one for most people.
  1. 1,000 emergency fund
  2. Pay off all debts
  3. 3-6 month expenses emergency fund
  4. 15% into retirement (401k/Roth IRA)
  5. save for kid(s) college (if you have kids)
  6. buy/pay off home
  7. give generously and build wealth (investments)

I started working last year at a late age. I got 1-4 covered. Skipping 5 and 6. I live with parents.

I would love to build wealth, but I need a noticeable increase in wages.

Only $500/mo in savings and $100/mo in whatever I want with it.

I'm hoping to save up for Disneyland Annual Pass with expenses. Should be $3,500. ETA Late 2022.
 

tommyv2

Member
Nov 6, 2017
1,425
TIL I am not a responsible adult.

sadface

Just wait until you find out that you need $100,000 retirement savings for every decade your age. Even 650,000 savings at retirement from age 65-75 isn't going to go very far as that's only 65K a year and things will be so much more expensive in the future.

A whole lot of people are in for a rude awakening and will spend their twilight years living in poverty.
 

konka

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,856
Dude, I can't even afford a 50€ unexpected expense.

Too many bourgeois on Era. Disgusting.

I just had to move in back with my parents and quit university because I can't afford renting a student appartment or going to school anymore.

Why is being financially stable disgusting?

Sometimes this place seems to have a disdain for not even rich but people who aren't in poverty.
 

Bman94

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,546
I literally have under $200 to spend until payday. So no. Even my credit card is maxed out right now.
 

Pagusas

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,876
Frisco, Tx
Yes, I've built my entire savings system around the idea that I should be able to afford a 20k emergency at any time in cash. If I can't do that I've made some stupid mistake and go on a spending diet until it's fixed.

The goal should be 20k liquid emergency, 100k credit emergency (pulling directly from available credit without any cash advances or interest penalties, and without destroying credit by utilizing any more than 30% of a given credit system). Obviously if such a thing hit I made some serious mess up, but it's very comforting knowing I have tiered systems in place to protect my family.

Took a few years after college but I was able to get there through good investments (home, CD's at the time and property sales)
 

Darren Lamb

Member
Dec 1, 2017
2,832
Yeah, I consider myself lucky to have never been out of work since graduating in 2012. I can't really afford to buy a home and I've got 40k in student loan debt, but otherwise I'm in good shape. I could cover six months of expenses with my emergency fund, 20% of my salary goes into my 401k, no credit card debt, etc. New job will allow me to get a decent part time MBA for no debt as well
 

shaneo632

Weekend Planner
Member
Oct 29, 2017
28,996
Wrexham, Wales
I started working last year at a late age. I got 1-4 covered. Skipping 5 and 6. I live with parents.

I would love to build wealth, but I need a noticeable increase in wages.

Only $500/mo in savings and $100/mo in whatever I want with it.

I'm hoping to save up for Disneyland Annual Pass with expenses. Should be $3,500. ETA Late 2022.

Dude $500 a month in savings is not "only" to most people. Good job.
 

LunaSerena

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,525
I can, now, but if everything goes well I'll be moving before December, and that will use almost all my savings, and I'll be back to zero.

I know I'm lucky.
 

idlewild_

Member
Oct 29, 2017
355
Having not been to the ER since becoming an adult, does it actually cost 1k out of pocket? Figured insurance would cover most of it.
 

Deleted member 4247

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,896
Dude, I can't even afford a 50€ unexpected expense.

Too many bourgeois on Era. Disgusting.

I just had to move in back with my parents and quit university because I can't afford renting a student appartment or going to school anymore.

Not being completely broke is disgusting? That's a weird take. We're not talking about being a millionaire here, just being in a somewhat stable financial situation.
 

Menx64

Member
Oct 30, 2017
5,774
Yes. I just had. My mom needed some money for a small dental surgery and I did spend around $1000. As long as it is once in a while, no problem.
An old excoworked always said, save at least a month or two worth of your salary and keep it at all cost. I have been doing that since my early twenties.
 

ameleco

The Fallen
Nov 2, 2017
975
I actually finally can, but I'm going to end up probably using most of it to buy a new computer. Maybe seen as "wasteful" but my current desktop is from 2010 or so lol
 

Snack12367

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,191
Yes, but I would really not have to. I could afford to do so, but it would have a significant impact on my life.
 

ascii42

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,798
Yeah. I'm a homeowner, so I've got to be ready for things needing to be fixed or replaced.
 

UCBooties

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
2,311
Pennsylvania, USA
Just wait until you find out that you need $100,000 retirement savings for every decade your age. Even 650,000 savings at retirement from age 65-75 isn't going to go very far as that's only 65K a year and things will be so much more expensive in the future.

A whole lot of people are in for a rude awakening and will spend their twilight years living in poverty.
"Rude awakening"

Like we don't already know we're fucked.
 

The BLJ

Member
Feb 2, 2019
698
France
Financial stability shouldn't be considered disgusting. It should be easier to achieve, and opportunities makes it easier for some more than others.
Writing off people as bourgeois and thinking it's disgusting because they can afford emergencies feels perhaps slightly silly, but you do you.
Why is being financially stable disgusting?

Sometimes this place seems to have a disdain for not even rich but people who aren't in poverty.
Not being completely broke is disgusting? That's a weird take. We're not talking about being a millionaire here, just being in a somewhat stable financial situation.
... I don't know why you don't notice hyperbole when it's right in front of you. Obviously I wasn't being entirely serious. I'm glad most people here got their shit together better than I do.
But I do think it's weird. I've never been in a situation where I could say that I could spend 1000€ right here and now if absolutely necessary. I've never had more than a little over 1000€ in my bank account, and I haven't been able to store up more than 200€ in it since the past year or so. I've never known someone who could take 1000€ out of their account and not be in extremely bad trouble by doing so, either. I can't imagine someone replying "yes" to the poll yet not being at least at the upper end of the middle class.
 

xChildofhatex

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,223
Just me? Probably not, as I usually keep no more (most days quite a bit less) than my currency's equivalent of 1000$ in my savings account and put most of my savings in stocks and mutual funds. But as my wife is also employed and likes to keep quite a bit of money in her salaried account instead of taking on risky investments, she can probably cover such an expense easily. That's how we prefer it too.
 

Deleted member 4247

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,896
... I don't know why you don't notice hyperbole when it's right in front of you. Obviously I wasn't being entirely serious. I'm glad most people here got their shit together better than I do.
But I do think it's weird. I've never been in a situation where I could say that I could spend 1000€ right here and now if absolutely necessary. I've never had more than a little over 1000€ in my bank account, and I haven't been able to store up more than 200€ in it since the past year or so. I've never known someone who could take 1000€ out of their account and not be in extremely bad trouble by doing so, either. I can't imagine someone replying "yes" to the poll yet not being at least at the upper end of the middle class.

It's not really that hard unless you make minimum wage or the equivalent. And even then it's not impossible. It's all about not living above your means. If you make less you have to spend less. If you're living paycheck to paycheck your expenses are too high. Maybe your rent/mortgage is too high, but generally it's all the small expenses.

It will take longer for some than others, of course, but the most important thing is to START. Many never do, because they think they can't. Everyone can. But yeah, of course it will be easier for someone who makes more (although many fall into the trap of spending more because they can, so they don't save much if anything anyway).
 

Marz

Member
Oct 30, 2017
3,782
... I don't know why you don't notice hyperbole when it's right in front of you. Obviously I wasn't being entirely serious. I'm glad most people here got their shit together better than I do.
But I do think it's weird. I've never been in a situation where I could say that I could spend 1000€ right here and now if absolutely necessary. I've never had more than a little over 1000€ in my bank account, and I haven't been able to store up more than 200€ in it since the past year or so. I've never known someone who could take 1000€ out of their account and not be in extremely bad trouble by doing so, either. I can't imagine someone replying "yes" to the poll yet not being at least at the upper end of the middle class.

I work a shitty trade job where I work my ass off, my gf doesn't make much money as she works at a call center, we had to make a lot of sacrifices lately to get to where we're at...definitely not upper middle class
 

Mr. Mug

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
646
... I don't know why you don't notice hyperbole when it's right in front of you. Obviously I wasn't being entirely serious. I'm glad most people here got their shit together better than I do.
But I do think it's weird. I've never been in a situation where I could say that I could spend 1000€ right here and now if absolutely necessary. I've never had more than a little over 1000€ in my bank account, and I haven't been able to store up more than 200€ in it since the past year or so. I've never known someone who could take 1000€ out of their account and not be in extremely bad trouble by doing so, either. I can't imagine someone replying "yes" to the poll yet not being at least at the upper end of the middle class.

I don't know where you're from but 1000 euro can mean a lot or not that much depending on which country you're in. It's very much possible that if 1000 euro is hard to reach for you that you're also not likely to run into a 1000 euro emergency.
 

killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
I'm on the cusp of being able to afford it. I just got my first full time job. I've paid off my credit card debt and I currently have 30k in Student Loan Debt.

Right now my rent is low, but who knows how long that'll last for. I've just been saving every dollar I can trying to get some sort of emergency fund in place in case something happens.
 

reKon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,730
I'm on the cusp of being able to afford it. I just got my first full time job. I've paid off my credit card debt and I currently have 30k in Student Loan Debt.

Right now my rent is low, but who knows how long that'll last for. I've just been saving every dollar I can trying to get some sort of emergency fund in place in case something happens.

Yep, smartest thing you can do.

Cutting spending where you can is more powerful than increasing income. Obviously it's good to pursue both, but cutting spending is more important.

$1,000 is a first good milestone before the at least savings 3 months worth in expenses.
 

tommy7154

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,370
I don't have an extra hundred, let alone a thousand. Luckily(?) I have a credit card that would put me further in debt if absolutely necessary.
 
Dec 24, 2017
2,399
Of all the weird survivalist habits I picked up, keeping a a decent amount of cash on hand is the one thing I've been real good at maintaining.
 

ZackieChan

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,056
Whhhat? That's crazy
That's only the case for SSI (3K if someone is married). You can save while on SSDI and DAC benefits.
Sorry! Thanks for clearing that up.
Yes.

If you guys need help with budgeting, consider looking into YNAB.

Been using YNAB for at least 4 years, and managed to save up a lot of $$$ and watch my spendings.

It's $5 a month, but it's nothing compared to the money you'll be saving.
The GOAT. Helped me get my ass in gear where other methods totally failed.
 

Raiden

Member
Nov 6, 2017
2,922
I lived most of my twenties where even 100 would get me in even more debt.

Changing jobs and a girlfriend later i now own a house and we have a good cashflow.

Also in socialist Europe its okay to be sick.