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djkimothy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah he's been flaunting the Constitution since he entered office, I don't see why he'd stop after a 2nd term. Although his mind will be totally gone by then.



The only problem I have with Bernie is the problem I have with all populists.

They promise simple solutions to complex problems.

Bernie might be falling into the same hole as Obama, over promising what's possible (Yes We Can? well not really) and how fast.

Singh is the same although unlike Bernie he's full of shit.

It took one senator to derail the ACA. People thinking that Bernie can get the stuff he's demanding is dreaming. Have fun with the senate.

Also in canada land, poverty rate at an all time low.

 

Gunny T Highway

Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
17,026
Canada
We need to fund better our healthcare system but people don't want increased tax so we'll run into a wall eventually. Our current iteration of healthcare wasn't budgeted with the current life expectancy and progress of medicine, medical imaging, immunotherapy and pharmacology.
You pretty much nailed it in the head with this statement. Unless we as citizens are willing to pay more taxes we will not be able to fund our current medical and education systems. Heck here in Alberta I would be willing to pay an additional sales tax if that means we can continue to provide proper healthcare and public schooling.
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
19,889
It took one senator to derail the ACA. People thinking that Bernie can get the stuff he's demanding is dreaming. Have fun with the senate

He can definitely improve things and make a lot of progressive changes but if people think they won't be paying health insurance premiums shortly after he wins they're dreaming.

And I hope Bernie doesn't promise no one will lose coverage etc.
 

djkimothy

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Oct 27, 2017
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He can definitely improve things and make a lot of progressive changes but if people think they won't be paying health insurance premiums shortly after he wins they're dreaming.

There are so many moving parts, just forgiving student debt loans by itself will be contentious. He'd need two terms just to do most of the stuff he's proposing. But he's white, so maybe the Rs will cut him slack.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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You guys are silly, Trump isn't gonna do a 3rd term, come on.

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Heshinsi

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Oct 25, 2017
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You guys are silly, Trump isn't gonna do a 3rd term, come on.

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I'll be sure to dig up this post when they swear in President For Life General Donald Trumpdafi 😝

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Yes I know that's Alec Baldwin
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
19,889


Conservatives shitty anti-environment and anti-science stance killing their O&G friends LOL.

Keep yelling about that "job killing carbon tax" guys.
 

TheTrinity

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Oct 25, 2017
713
That's fucking hilarious. Eat shit Michelle.

Anyway, despite being Canadian I'm radicalized for Bernie and I fully feel the bern. Him and his comrades like AOC are the kind of leftism we need, not the centrism of the Liberals and the milquetoast incompetence of the NDP. I think you guys are nailing it on the head that when Bernie gets in and (at the least) shifts the conversation it could inject some life into Canadian federal politics.

And of course he'll be fought by the GOP and the establishment dems, but I say that's far superior to not doing anything at all to improve. Another Obama is not going to work, the Dems have to stop trying to 'work with' the GOP because they're going to vote against anything they propose no matter how bipartisan it is. You can look at how the primaries are going, people are excited about actual leftism. Either embrace it or burn the party to the ground, because any moderate is going to get wrecked by Trump.
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
19,889
Anyway, despite being Canadian I'm radicalized for Bernie and I fully feel the bern. Him and his comrades like AOC are the kind of leftism we need, not the centrism of the Liberals and the milquetoast incompetence of the NDP

The US has like ten times our population and all they have is Bernie, AOC and a few others.

I'm not getting my hopes up on finding anyone soon in Canada lol, we had Jack not too long ago too.

But hopefully it will inspire better people. I'm sick of reading Singh's tweets, they sound like they're written by CPC staffers.
 

Nocturne

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Oct 25, 2017
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if bernie wins and enacts even half the change he wants i think it'll be enough to shift the centre of gravity leftward in canada as well. we've always assessed our view of what progressive policy (and the national identity as a whole) relative to the american status quo, if they close the gap (or even surpass what canadians enjoy in the case of student debt and affordable housing), it's going to put a lot of pressure on the milquetoast and self-serving narrative we get served on how progressive we are. if it doesn't inspire a more firey generation of prominent voices in politics, it will if nothing else force the liberals to push a bolder platform

solidarity for the international left is important, always.
 

StevieP

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Oct 27, 2017
3,276
You guys are bananas if you think 1 populist can change the course of the Senate and how they vote with regards to wrecking and replacing the entire insurance industry, especially when said Senate will remain Republican or, at best, completely split. You can't executive order that shit, and you can't Supreme Court ram that shit especially when the courts are republican-stacked for a generation. Hope for better here? Sure, but not as a result of the USA cause it'll never happen
 

Pedrito

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Nov 4, 2017
2,369
You guys are bananas if you think 1 populist can change the course of the Senate and how they vote with regards to wrecking and replacing the entire insurance industry, especially when said Senate will remain Republican or, at best, completely split. You can't executive order that shit, and you can't Supreme Court ram that shit especially when the courts are republican-stacked for a generation. Hope for better here? Sure, but not as a result of the USA cause it'll never happen

What? You really don't think the US will go, in a span of a 3-4 years, from being the most right-wing western country to one of the most progressive, and in the process inversing the worldwide shift to the right? C'mon, feel the Bern!
 

Nocturne

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Oct 25, 2017
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i mean we've already seen how trump's win in the usa has affected the trajectory and language of the conservative party here, the case to make that our perception of what left and right is is strongly entangled in what the american concept is (even if it's to put us on the left of that spectrum) is not a wild one. bernie doesn't need to get everything he wants done to have a meaningful impact on the political conversation in canada and the viability and attractiveness of more progressive policy

certainly it's more energizing than another round of middle class tax cuts
 

Azzanadra

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Oct 25, 2017
3,806
Canada
That's fucking hilarious. Eat shit Michelle.

Anyway, despite being Canadian I'm radicalized for Bernie and I fully feel the bern. Him and his comrades like AOC are the kind of leftism we need, not the centrism of the Liberals and the milquetoast incompetence of the NDP. I think you guys are nailing it on the head that when Bernie gets in and (at the least) shifts the conversation it could inject some life into Canadian federal politics.

And of course he'll be fought by the GOP and the establishment dems, but I say that's far superior to not doing anything at all to improve. Another Obama is not going to work, the Dems have to stop trying to 'work with' the GOP because they're going to vote against anything they propose no matter how bipartisan it is. You can look at how the primaries are going, people are excited about actual leftism. Either embrace it or burn the party to the ground, because any moderate is going to get wrecked by Trump.

I agree with this post. I was for Bernie in 2016 as well because I believed Americans deserved better, but now I realize this is about more than just America- the dream of genuine left-wing progress internationally is on the line.
 

Vamphuntr

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Oct 25, 2017
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DJ_Lae

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Oct 27, 2017
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Edmonton
Alberta's family doctors and Specialists are the most paid of the country. Where do you think they will run to?

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J'espère que les généralistes Albertains parlent français...

I agree, and this is all pretty important when looking at the physician 'problem' here. You can even dig a little further and point fingers at fee-for-service.

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I could have sworn I had updated to 2017/18, but the story hasn't changed at all in the last year (per 100,000 capita). Alberta has the lowest percentage of ARP compensation across Canada by a significant margin, and the FFS payment structure puts little to no checks on the physician. So couple higher rates across physician services with more services performed and you get Alberta's high payments to physicians - especially GPs.

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(Also per 100k, also from CIHI's NPDB). Higher cost per service, more services, and increasingly more physicians - because why wouldn't you come to a province where you can bill more?

It's just not such a simple issue to solve, as the medical association does not want to implement more ARPs. And it's why the two biggest issues with Alberta's healthcare costs cannot be fixed so easily. They can legislate physician cuts, but the other - bigger - cost is nurses, where they too are paid more than any other province. But you can't just go and cut their wages.
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
19,889
he wants a conservative government it's the only way the NDP can survive/grow

Then the NDP is as insane as the CPC.

Nevermind that if the CPC wins a majority that will be the last fair election in this country.

But if they want the CPC to wreak havoc across the country and make things as bad as the US or worse then they're crazy.
 

Gabbo

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Oct 25, 2017
7,567
Federal carbon pricing law unconstitutional, Alberta Court of Appeal rules

Well of course the damn Alberta Court of appeals rules against the Carbon Tax where all other provinces have failed.
I'm sure we'll see the UCP and the CPC decry this ruling as a group of activist judges overruling the will of the people, as is their want when judges rule against governments.
 
That worked real well during Harper's prorogation stunts and robocalls etc.

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The CPC plan on making courts unable to overrule legislation anyway.
Neither or those things you mention compromised the basic fairness of our elections.

The platform you cite doesn't say anything about preventing courts from overturning legislation, but even so, there's no power for them to do that in respect of election law. The democratic rights provisions of the Charter aren't subject to the Notwithstanding Clause.
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
19,889
Neither or those things you mention compromised the basic fairness of our elections

That voters in certain ridings could be led to non-existent polling locations strikes me as a total attack on fair elections. That's blatant voter suppression.

Especially if only some token fall guy goes to jail when there's no way he could have pulled it off without senior party members.

And Harper ignored court rulings before, don't expect the courts to save us.

They will attack democracy in this country from all angles. Their goal is to be something like Hungary.
 

Tiktaalik

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Oct 25, 2017
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Today the NDP tabled a bill for universal pharmacare, which the Liberals will surely support since they campaigned for pharmacare in the election right? right? ? ? ? .....
 

mo60

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,198
Edmonton, Alberta
This poll is really awful for the UCP
www.macleans.ca

338Canada: Jason Kenney still holds a commanding lead in Alberta - Macleans.ca

Philippe J. Fournier: A new poll shows the UCP has maintained support after 10 months in power, with an 8-point lead over the NDP
They are still projected to win a majority if an election was held today but it's mostly because of crazy landslide wins in a lot of northern and southern alberta seats outside of edmonton and calgary. They are tied in seat count in calgary and getting destroyed in edmonton.
 

djkimothy

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Oct 27, 2017
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This poll is really awful for the UCP
www.macleans.ca

338Canada: Jason Kenney still holds a commanding lead in Alberta - Macleans.ca

Philippe J. Fournier: A new poll shows the UCP has maintained support after 10 months in power, with an 8-point lead over the NDP
They are still projected to win a majority if an election was held today but it's mostly because of crazy landslide wins in a lot of northern and southern alberta seats outside of edmonton and calgary. They are tied in seat count in calgary and getting destroyed in edmonton.

That province is a lost cause.

Dictators would love this much blind devotion.

 
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Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
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www.thestar.com

Alberta pushes to kill Liberal plan to enshrine UN declaration on Indigenous rights

A new battlefront may be looming — one that will test Trudeau’s ability to triangulate the government’s commitment to reconciliation, his promise to accommodate environmentalists’ concerns about energy projects, and to “transition” Canada’s economy to a cleaner, greener posture without killing...
Kenney has urged Trudeau to drop the plan for legislation to enshrine the United Nations Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (or UNDRIP), and the Alberta premier also raised it last Thursday during the all-premiers conference call with Trudeau. He has since reached out to Quebec Premier François Legault for support, a source with knowledge of the discussion told the Star.

Legault is said to agree the legislation should be delayed, however Legault's office did not respond to requests for comment.

Kenney said the Liberal government had to be "very careful" to avoid entrenching in Canadian law "the UNDRIP veto" — or what some Indigenous activists believe is a veto over land development.

Other legal experts such as University of Victoria law professor John Borrows, who is Anishinabe and holds the Canada Research Chair in Indigenous Law, say the UN document does not contain a veto.

Kenney pulling more shit.
 

Nocturne

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Oct 25, 2017
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idk why they care considering how it's already proven that whether or not undrip is ratified means jack shit
 

mo60

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,198
Edmonton, Alberta
That province is a lost cause.

Dictators would love this much blind devotion.


At the rate things are going kenney is going to exacerbate the rural/urban divide in alberta unless things change. The UCP has pissed off a lot of people in Calgary and Edmonton with how they are governing. I don't think the economy roaring back at this point will stop them from losing seats in the next election
 

Tiktaalik

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Oct 25, 2017
3,428
UNDRIP is basically a framework that must be considered for creating new legislation (and revising old). It's not some magic wand that undoes colonialism.
 

Gunny T Highway

Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
17,026
Canada
At the rate things are going kenney is going to exacerbate the rural/urban divide in alberta unless things change. The UCP has pissed off a lot of people in Calgary and Edmonton with how they are governing. I don't think the economy roaring back at this point will stop them from losing seats in the next election
Wait for the next provincial budget which is this Thursday. I expect more anger is going to be coming.
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
19,889
UNDRIP is basically a framework that must be considered for creating new legislation (and revising old). It's not some magic wand that undoes colonialism.

No but it's still a framework for reconciliation, one that Canadian indigenous people had a hand in creating if I'm not mistaken.

If it was nothing, then the Cons wouldn't be opposed to it. I always judge a bill by how loudly the CPC complains about it, among other things.

Then again BC just sort of ignored it.