Ontario elected Ford. It's only a matter of time before we do something similar on the national level.
Yeah that's the biggest danger.
People who just want a change, to "shake things up".
That's what led to Trump.
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Yeah that's the biggest danger.
People who just want a change, to "shake things up".
That's what led to Trump.
I think people striving for constructive change will always be a good thing. That said, there's nothing more dangerous than manipulated people, and people wanting change just for the sake of change without knowing enough.
I mean, look at what happened to the UK.
Low information voters is a problem.
Democracy only works with an informed electorate.
You have rampant bullshit being spread on PostMedia not to mention social media and fringe sites like Rebel which is a huge problem.
The CRTC recommendation to regulate media is an attempt to address that but it's a slippery slope as those powers could easily be abused if the CPC wins.
So I'm at a loss here.
Even if it's approved that mine will never be built. Even the Teck CEO doesn't know if it will happen.
It's simply not profitable if oil is below $75/barrel.
The way to destroy these projects is with economics and capitalism will do the rest.
Guess Lecce was too busy hazing classmates at St Mike's to pay attention to math class. Maybe he should've gotten a proper education at a public school.
The range of emotions as Cons laugh at the Trudeau burn but then realise what Greta is truly getting at:
Focus on lowering consumption of fossil fuels not production.
As consumption falls, the business case for new fossil fuel projects becomes worse and worse.
Especially for expensive extraction like the oil sands.
AB should look into lithium mining, that's a more future proof resource.
As consumption falls, the business case for new fossil fuel projects becomes worse and worse.
Especially for expensive extraction like the oil sands.
AB should look into lithium mining, that's a more future proof resource.
Our tailings ponds have lots of lithium but shhhhh.
(There's a couple of startups that are looking into this, I believe)
Whose land do you think they are going to trespass on/what people do you think are going to be exploited for those mines? I'll give you three guesses as to why that's a bad field to transition Alberta's economy to, given the combination of what's happened/happening in various South American countries and recent court rulings in Canada pertaining to "consultation", to say nothing of prior incidents.
P.S. extraction of lithium is also a resource-intense process a la oil sand extraction.
Don't pin this all on us, blame the awful FPTP system for bringing us the cover model for 2018's "Failing Upwards" Smarmsuit Edition....and the 39% of people that voted for a mid-level drug dealer with the temperament of a drunk badger and an equally unpleasant platform.Ontario elected Ford. It's only a matter of time before we do something similar on the national level.
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As I just posted, they theoretically don't need to open any mines -- reprocessing the tailings ponds should yield a lot of lithium along with a lot of other useful minerals and byproducts.
Yes, it will be energy intensive, but they stand to reclaim lots of parkland (and possibly good PR).
In case you needed any more reason to be concerned about that skinhead scumbag (but I repeat myself) that they recently found in the U.S.: This is becoming a much, much larger problem in Canada's military.
We both know that this is not how things will simply go in practice. Again: Where do you think several of said ponds holding these valuable resources reside and what do you think said companies will do to access them in practice? Moreover, what do you think is going to happen to these indigenous communities and nations if something goes wrong like spilling of toxic materials into a source of drinking water? With all sincerity, I have no reason to believe that this will turn out any differently than it did a few years ago.
I just meant economically lithium is a better bet than oil.
I don't know enough about the consultation process with indigenous communities. That's another can of worms.
But someone is going to have to clean up those tailings ponds at some point.
Can I get cryogenized until Bill 21 is no longer a thing?
E-ve-ry sin-gle day it's all that is being talked about in Quebec. The same fucking op-eds in JDM and Le Devoir.The same replies in La Presse and The Gazette. The same fiery debates on TV and on radio. The same conspiracy theories about bought judges.
That little shit disturber Frederic Bastien constantly putting oil on the fire in the hope of being noticed and becoming PQ leader, and instead of telling him to take a hike, they constantly apologize.
It's no longer about religious signs, if it ever was. It's all about political opportunism. They want it to get overturned. They want the constitutional crisis. Getting the populace foaming at the mouth over this is a better result than actually preventing teachers from wearing a hijab.
All of this over something inconsequential for 99% of the population...
E-ve-ry sin-gle day it's all that is being talked about in Quebec. The same fucking op-eds in JDM and Le Devoir.The same replies in La Presse and The Gazette. The same fiery debates on TV and on radio. The same conspiracy theories about bought judges.
That little shit disturber Frederic Bastien constantly putting oil on the fire in the hope of being noticed and becoming PQ leader, and instead of telling him to take a hike, they constantly apologize.
It's no longer about religious signs, if it ever was. It's all about political opportunism. They want it to get overturned. They want the constitutional crisis. Getting the populace foaming at the mouth over this is a better result than actually preventing teachers from wearing a hijab.
All of this over something inconsequential for 99% of the population...
i know right fuck la CAQ/PQ it's fucking depressing that there's no hope for them to get voted out and even if they did there's no good left alternative
It was always political opportunism. They don't care one single bit about secularism. Legault's pretty happy they keep talking about it all the time since even the most recent polls show he's extremely popular and this is in part because of it. He will also constantly get to put the federal government on the hot seat over this (just like today) which helps him score points. It's also bonus points to slam another nail in the PLQ coffin. They've been wiped out of the electoral map everywhere to the east of Montréal and this was also in part because of their stance over this. And even if the law is judged unconstitutional by the superior or supreme court then it will still be a victory for Legault because he'll be able to say he fought to the end the government over this and his base will be so happy.
If he truly wanted secularism it would have been really easy to do the following : 1- get rid of tax exemptions for religious organizations. 2- No more funding of any kind for religious organizations or schools 3- No unreasonable religious accommodations of any kind in the workplace or school 4- Completely get out religion from schools 5-Put up a committee to teach about religious extremism. And it would be done.
The judge stuff wasn't much conspiracy though since eventually recordings came out proving their point. In a trial you don't make "jokes" about going to work for the defense or helping their case when you retire when you are a judge about to retire. It's like very basic stuff. I think people are slowly starting to realize that judges are human like them with their own bias and prejudices and they are not taking it well.
The sad thing is that we have much bigger problems to deal with right now than this.
Having lived in both provinces, both of them need to take a look in the mirror and come to some realizations about the modern world, modern policies and properly taking care of the people that live in the province.
Different realizations for both of them, but realizations nonetheless.
There's no hope for the CAQ to get voted out BECAUSE there's no good left alternative. That's the whole problem...
Why the fuck don't we have a real provincial NDP branch?
the truth
it makes me sick to my stomach
I read La Presse everyday, only time I hear about Bill 21 is in this thread.
If the current NDP are too centrist then the Liberals and Conservatives are basically right-wing neoliberal facists. lol
Same. Last time I heard about it in the media was during the Federal election.
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Duval-Hessler indeed did appear to cross the line in some of her comments, though it's hard to tell without the whole context. but if she really did, the way to proceed was to file a motion for recusation and as far as I know, the attorney general, the actual defendant, hasn't. The outrage has come from people not even involved in the lawsuit.
As for the complaints against the Supreme Court judges, they're completely ridiculous. Being members of law societies, doing conferences and have personal beliefs are not ethical misconducts. Again, if they truly believe the judges are biased, they can ask them to recuse themselves, but threatening to file complaints to the Canadian Judicial Council shows that Bastien and his pals have no idea how the justice system works, or they're just acting in bad faith (probably both). And the media seem just as clueless.
Oh, if Bernie (or Warren) wins the DNC AND gets Elected. Progressives are going to full on riot. Just the people who have Student Loans are going to be so pissed as they watch our neighbors to the south immediately become debt free meanwhile they are still stuck paying their monthly bills
Yes, a lot will be blocked. But there are some that he can just do outright. Like say Student Loans. The President already has a couple different abilities that allow them to authorize forgiveness on Student Loans. They do it once a year already in order to clean up bad debt, debt for public workers or ect. But there is nothing that says it has to be used in that way.
Thats also not to say that optics themselves aren't a powerful motivator. If you got the president of the USA out there advocating for all of these progressive causes on a daily basis, progressives up here will get jealous.
The RCMP continues to remind us how thoroughly entrenched colonialism and white supremacy are in Canada, to the point where they are the reason why they were formed to begin with.
It needs to be abolished. Full stop.
I am sure we can figure out a modern institution that has the role of Federal police without the racist baggage or being the strong arm of oil companies and colonialism.
This painting by Kent Monkman shocked me by it's violence, but it's an indelible part of our history. The idea that this institution still exists today and is still doing the similar shit is nauseating. If you are unfamiliar with his work, I recommend everyone look him up, some really incredible, subversive stuff.
Monkman's paintings are always so striking in their rhetorical simplicity.I am sure we can figure out a modern institution that has the role of Federal police without the racist baggage or being the strong arm of oil companies and colonialism.
This painting by Ken Monkman shocked me by it's violence, but it's an indelible part of our history. The idea that this institution still exists today and is still doing the similar shit is nauseating. If you are unfamiliar with his work, I recommend everyone look him up, some really incredible, subversive stuff.
I hated the RCMP ever since they tazed Robert Dziekański to death at Vancouver Airport because he didn't speak English.
Ground up reform is probably the furthest we could ever go with this, doubt much of Canada would turn into police abolitionists over night!
Hell, even reform would probably be an impossible issue for politicians to take, considering it immediatly turns into a repudiation of a core part of canadian identity.
I think speaking of abolition is a bit much... Be careful for what you wish for; there's nothing saying it wouldn't be replaced by something that would end up being far worse. It could evolve, be modified, though. But such reforms would need to come from the political side.
Let me repost this comic from yesterday:
Let me repost this comic from yesterday:
Speaking for myself, I align more closely with the NDP but I voted Liberal is both federal elections I could vote in because the NDP neither exited me nor were the practical choice in my riding. It was literally vote Liberal, or Liberal-lite. If NDP actually had a platform to excite me the way Bernie does, I'd consider supporting them federally. This is especially a harsh criticism of the party because I'm from the generation of teens that grew up thinking Jack Layton was the best thing ever, so it was crazy of me to NOT vote NDP when I finally had the chance to.
Also, Bernie's power comes not from his policies, but his movement. Like his ground game and volunteer network is insane, the NDP has nothing like that because they don't inspire people the same way. They sure as hell would be a lot more electable of they could inspire that kind of devotion via truly radical and transformative policies.
If you want my honest answer instead of "here's how i'd reform Canada's justice system (greater focus on rehabilitation for street crimes instead of punitive sentencing, repealing Harper's minimums and allowing judges to employ more flexible sentencing, massively increasing sentencing for white collar crimes, among other changes)"...I wouldn't, certainly not if we're talking about forming a new institution with the same goals as the RCMP, because said goals are a combination of terrorism and reinforcement of the status quo for the most marginalized people in Canada/people who do not consider themselves to be Canadian or a part of Canada but a sovereign nation altogether who are nevertheless subjected to violence and thrown into a justice system that further disenfranchises and disempowers them.
An institution whose actions have lead to, at least in one province, 75% of inmates being indigenous(!) is not one with goals worth replicating nor are they deserving of reform.
Last week, federal correctional investigator Ivan Zinger reported that Indigenous inmates now account for more than 30 per cent of federal prisoners — and 65 per cent of inmates in federal institutions in Saskatchewan.
A provincial ministry spokesperson said the demographics have been consistent in Saskatchewan's adult jails for about the last five years.
The ministry also provided a one-day snapshot of the provincial jail inmate population on Jan. 28. 2020, which showed that Indigenous people comprised about 76 per cent of both sentenced and remanded inmates.
