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Canada PoliERA |OT| Two Years of Sunny Days? That’s Scheer Madness!
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The question "would you consider expanding private services within the public system to be expanded?" was asked multiple times and she refused to say "no". It's obvious why she wouldn't say no.
Mainstreet Poll:
In Quebec.
42% PLC
19% CPC
13% BQ
8%-9% NDP
Women Canada
42% PLC
28% CPC
the new will talk about it being tied, (horse race) but lol, when 60% of Albertans support the CPC, it kind of tilts the CPC support to pool regionally in the prairies .
The Women vote though, that is a riding to riding decider
In Quebec.
42% PLC
19% CPC
13% BQ
8%-9% NDP
Women Canada
42% PLC
28% CPC
the new will talk about it being tied, (horse race) but lol, when 60% of Albertans support the CPC, it kind of tilts the CPC support to pool regionally in the prairies .
The Women vote though, that is a riding to riding decider
Nice. If Trudeau could sway Ontario (I doubt, but federal Liberals are different than OLP), BC and Maritime, I think he could secure a government.
I am sure that Doug is pissing off away enough support from Sheeeer to the point that Doug causes Sheeer to lose Ontario
Nerve doubt what people are willing to do to "own the libs".
Quebec may get locally nationalistic for Quebec stuff but they don't like the Religious Right branding of the Canadian Conservatism being too tied to Pro-Lifers and and Bible Thumpers.
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https://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/trudeau-liberals-hold-a-narrow-lead-over-scheer-conservatives/
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https://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/trudeau-liberals-hold-a-narrow-lead-over-scheer-conservatives/
Keeping public health care doesn't preclude private from being brought in. They use Caroline Mulroney when they want to back pedal on an issue.
I just ordered the Ontario health card the other day. Does anyone know if that automatically cancels my Québec health card?
Nah, one doesn't cancel the other.
But if you live out of province for a long period of time, you temporarily lose it but can gain back by living in the province again
My politics far more closely align with the NDP than the Liberals. I am a democratic socialist. I wish we could have someone like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez be our Prime Minister.
Before the riding boundaries were re-drawn my riding was Vancouver Kingsway. That riding has loooooong been a fight between the NDP and the Liberals. You have to go all the way back to 1958 when it went to the PCs. Until the last election I have always voted NDP.
In 2004 and 2006 David Emmerson of the Liberal Party beat out Ian Waddell of the NDP. On election night 2006 David Emmerson was on camera promising to be "Stephen Harper's worse nightmare", but 2 weeks later he crossed the floor to join Stephen Harper's Conservatives with a cabinet position. From then on, that riding would be won by Don Davies of the NDP.
Unfortunately, the boundaries of my riding got re-drawn, which meant that as of the last election in 2015 I am now in the riding of Vancouver South. That riding was - shamefully - the ONLY Vancouver riding to go to the Harper Conservatives in 2011.
Unlike the Liberal voters of Ontario, I know what is at stake and I AM able to put the good of the country/province before party. In the 2015 election I was not willing to take the risk of Stephen Harper doing more damage to the country, so I held my nose and voted Liberal.
I do not look forward to having to do that again, but I will - very grudgingly! - if I must.
Too many Liberal supporters seem to be under the impression that the federal Liberals are entitled to non-rightwing votes.
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I did not know that the last riding redraws affected Laurier (mine) and Outremont's
Outremont used to end east bound on St-Laurent boulevard but as been redrawn east ward towards St-Denis street.
Outremont used to end east bound on St-Laurent boulevard but as been redrawn east ward towards St-Denis street.
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The riding I used to live in all my life was an NDP one. So that was nice, being able to vote my conscious. That said, now I live in an Liberal/Conservative swing riding where the OPCs won provincially over the NDP by ~173 votes against a massively split (over 15k) Liberal Vote.
So I'm kind of pissed that I'm now being forced to vote against my best wishes, especially given the few promises Justin broke I really cared about (coughElectoralReformcough). My being pissed amplified by the fact that the Liberal Voters in this riding couldn't even do their simplest due diligence of returning the favour provincially to prevent Ford.
But alas. I'm going to hold my nose and vote Liberal. Because t'is is the plight of the NDP voter, and the alternative is much, much worse.
So I'm kind of pissed that I'm now being forced to vote against my best wishes, especially given the few promises Justin broke I really cared about (coughElectoralReformcough). My being pissed amplified by the fact that the Liberal Voters in this riding couldn't even do their simplest due diligence of returning the favour provincially to prevent Ford.
But alas. I'm going to hold my nose and vote Liberal. Because t'is is the plight of the NDP voter, and the alternative is much, much worse.
That's just the shitty way the system works, and is why Trudeau lied about changing to PR. Some enlightened communities like yours can vote for a party that actually aligns with their values, some have to vote ABC, and some, like my urban/rural hellscape get dragged into backwater moron territory by mouth breathing right wing oil fanatics. I wish the NDP could get their shit together and raise more than 6% of the money the second best fundraisers could but it seems like they can't. That doesn't bode well for a national campaign.
I think we are on the same page a lot of the time. The broken PR promise was the biggest black eye of this mandate. I identify more with NDP policy as a whole, despite having a strong dislike for people like Ashton (who I think are crazy). For me it's just a matter of spending time and money on a party that can win.
Next budget could include a modest expansion of pharmacare coverage. This is not the entire burrito and is not comprehensive. Seems to be more like a stop gap between a national program and none.
I can already hear the pundits saying either it's not enough or will cost too much...
I can already hear the pundits saying either it's not enough or will cost too much...
No doubt about it. When I first read the plan it definitely seemed like it was something they could throw out there just to say they did it. And granted, a half-assed solution is still a solution and it will do some good. I just hope that they err on it being more expansive, than on it being more limited.
From what it sounds like, if they follow through with a "If you have insurance, you use that. If you don't you fall back onto the Federal/Provincial Scheme" type system, that would be the best case scenario, without them going full public like Healthcare currently is, and like how Obamacare in the USA was suppose to be. Since for all intents and purposes, it would cover everybody. The only problems being increased bureaucratic costs of processing claims, maybe also drug negotiation depending on how it was laid out.
I just hope that they can actually do this without the Premiers throwing a hissy fit and bitching and moaning, while not actually having any plan to do anything themselves. Thereby killing the system by proxy.
LOL I'm not sure whether or not this was meant to be a typo or not because I can totally see 'burrito' being used as a saying :D
Mainstreet CAQ Honeymoon Poll
https://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/la-caq-vit-une-lune-de-miel-avec-les-electeurs-quebecois/
CAQ 44,5 %
PLQ 26,1 %
QS 15,8 %
PQ 8,9 %
Seems that the CAQ has gobbled up the brunt of the PQ's nationaliste vote while the the rest of PQ supporters are just fledgling Baby Boomers.
PLQ support stems from anglos, allos and minorities. In other words, the PLQ is now the Montreal party
https://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/la-caq-vit-une-lune-de-miel-avec-les-electeurs-quebecois/
CAQ 44,5 %
PLQ 26,1 %
QS 15,8 %
PQ 8,9 %
Seems that the CAQ has gobbled up the brunt of the PQ's nationaliste vote while the the rest of PQ supporters are just fledgling Baby Boomers.
PLQ support stems from anglos, allos and minorities. In other words, the PLQ is now the Montreal party
I am a NDP fan as well. I don't live in an NDP stronghold, but a vote for them isn't a waste of time. Either they get no votes due to that mentality, or they have a chance of winning. Honestly with the way our political system is, I don't see the Liberals significantly moving to the left unless the NDP is strong like in 2015. And then they only do so to siphon away their voters and then go back on the promises made to sway them. So really, you have to keep voting for them because other wise the Liberals will go back to being centrists again. I agree they need a better leader however, Singh isn't a good leader and he's dooming the NDP at the moment. And you can't really say they're dead outside of Alberta when they're going to get wiped out there soon. At least they have a presence in Ontario. And if not for Liberal voters putting the party first then we wouldn't be shackled with Ford.
Oh? I believe we are in the same riding. I wonder how that's gonna affect the results... especially since Ms. Laverdière is retiring. :(
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For Outremont and Laurier. Little Portugal used to be divided in half across both ridings, the redraw has Little Portugal now entirely in Outremont which means more LPC votes for that riding but less for Laurier. So Laurier may stay in NDP hands.
But Laurier has also changed in the south west of the riding in the downtown area where they compensate by moving Westward into Chinatown from St-Denis to Bleury. But people who live in the Down-Town core have an insanely low voter turnout due it being full of new Canadians, Ex-pats and out of Province Canadians moving in.
I'm not saying they're dead outside of AB, I'm saying they're dead "to me", ie, I don't give a shit about them federally at this point because they're a circus.
If anything I'd say they're strongest in BC. Their presence in Ontario is official opposition; which is what they'll be in Alberta if they lose in May (or whenever). They haven't had more presence than that in Ontario in the past 20 years and couldn't seal the deal getting through to Liberals with the best opportunity they've had in two decades. Alberta's NDP (although admittedly quite centrist) were able to peel votes off the PC's (and benefited from vote splitting) in the most conservative province in the country. Doug Ford is an a living, sweating, heavily breathing testament of the ineffectual ONDP leadership.
That salt stings even more considering the party is broke and who knows how much they'll spend in Alberta this spring. Hopefully they aren't pinching their pennies for a futile federal campaign. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the way the party is structured and there's more distinction between federal and provincial parties like Libs and Cons.
I say the fact that Doug Ford is premier is a living, sweating, heavily breathing testament of how many Ontario provincial Liberal Party supporters have their heads far up their asses.
How about running a party that isn't a fucking piece of shit that makes the people want to kick them out. I mean, it's not hard to not privatize a crown corporation. You just keep the status quo and don't do it. Electricity prices were pissing people off well before 2018. You know if they actually did something back in 2015 when it first became a problem, people wouldn't have been as pissed off at them.
We go through this every time. But really all it comes down to is that OLP supporters are desperately afraid of admitting that they and their party are in the wrong for the results of the election. That they, despite everyone telling them exactly what would happen, still voted incorrectly. In fact, the whole election would have been swayed and the ONDP would have swept a good 10-12 extra seats if only 10k OLP voters didn't put party over province. That's how close the election was. 10k people.
And get this, they would have still won the same amount of seats that they won now. But the real kicker is that they would probably be recognized as an official party in the house, and get funds and research assistance.
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A party that can't shake the ghost of Bob Rae after 23 years when a rival party (of racists) can shake off a sex offender leader in around 23 days isn't a party that's breathing a fresh spring breeze.
The story of pretty much every party ever that gets voted out is "they're a fucking piece of shit that needs to be kicked out".
Except in the case of the OLP it couldn't have been more apparent. When they are a year and a half out from an election and they suddenly realize "oh shit. People hate us because of Hydro. We need to call an emergency parliamentary session to redo a budget outside of budget season to fix this thing that people have told us for years was a problem and is the number one reason they hate us". You can just tell that they were phoning it in.
They knew in 2014 that the only reason they won was because Tim Hudak made a major political blunder on day -1. A smart person would have realized this and not done things that would have made the people mad at them. Selling off Hydro One, acting arrogant about the costs of Hydro for several years, clearly trying to buy off the public in the last minute with watered down policies literally ripped out of your oppositions playback days after they announced them. They pretended that problems just didn't exist. They kept on running scandal after scandal despite knowing that people were tiring of their BS even when they got elected.
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I mean, given the state of things. It would be impossible for them to not lose seats if there was a by-election called. Unfortunately, I don't think the OPCs are in any hurry to vacate their seats now that all of their political dreams are coming true.
lol at BC wanting nothing to do with the Rest of Canada.
We really need to stop calling it "The West" and start calling Alberta n' Co "The Prairies" instead.
God, look at that ∞ symbol in the prairies there.
Surprised so many provinces compete with Alberta's level of feeling offended and attacked by everyone else.
More like Sask n Friends because it's neighbors love it and it isn't that mutual apparently. Lol at AB liking SK more than SK likes AB.lol at BC wanting nothing to do with the Rest of Canada.
We really need to stop calling it "The West" and start calling Alberta n' Co "The Prairies" instead.
According to that study no one does? Sask certainly isn't reciprocating the love.
Inferiority complex 8/10My favorite question of that study is this one:
Canada, the country where everyone feels disrespected.
Kudos BC for being the best Province with no fucks to give
Pfft. Ontario's superiority complex is showingMy favorite question of that study is this one:
Canada, the country where everyone feels disrespected.
To be fair, as someone who was born and raised and still lives in Saskatchewan, who would or why would anyone respect us?
Let it burn. Centrist voters deserve this shit for being reliably terrible, and now that the middle class is facing the same shit that the poor have faced forever people want to complain? Womp womp.
That Manitoba/Saskatchewan thing is hilarious. It's like a love triangle with Alberta winning.lol at BC wanting nothing to do with the Rest of Canada.
We really need to stop calling it "The West" and start calling Alberta n' Co "The Prairies" instead.
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The people who say there's more in common with Manitoba are probably the Indigenous, as their communities have a lot more in common with each other between those provinces (larger sections of the population, larger urban presence, etc.)
Just filling in an information gap for those unaware.
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