• Introducing Image Options for ResetEra 2.0! Check the left side navigation bar to show or hide images, avatars, covers, and embedded media. More details at the link.

Canada PoliERA |OT| Two Years of Sunny Days? That’s Scheer Madness!

Oct 25, 2017
5,701
I dont even think whatever she has to say will sound good on the surface. Nothing else theyve come out with has. The closest they came was buck-a-beer, and look how popular that was.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/pr...ts-in-anger-over-ontario-autism-overhaul.html

A PC political staffer has resigned over the Ford government’s autism overhaul, calling the changes a “huge disappointment” and saying his advice against age-based funding was not heeded.

“In light of today’s announcement, I told my minister I did not feel I could continue in my role as legislative assistant,” said Bruce McIntosh, who joined PC MPP Amy Fee’s political staff when the Ford government was elected last spring.
Looks like the new changes are a hit! /s
 
Nov 4, 2017
919
Nevermind the NDP, I've been amused by the reaction of the "anti-globalist" libertarians/right-wingers, or more so how they have no idea how to react.
On one hand, Trudeau's goal has always been to turn Canada into socialist hell Venezuela and make us all rat-eaters. On the other, Trudeau and his globalist cabal are trying to oust a democratically elected leader who he's supposed to be a big fan of.
Which one is it?
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,701
On one hand, Trudeau's goal has always been to turn Canada into socialist hell Venezuela and make us all rat-eaters. On the other, Trudeau and his globalist cabal are trying to oust a democratically elected leader who he's supposed to be a big fan of.
Which one is it?
They're just against Trudeau in anything.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,278
RIP Paul Dewar.

Also, since CBC is doing an Alberta love fest this week - am I crazy or is it bullshit whenever people say Alberta pays hundreds of billions in equalization payments?
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,254
Toronto
RIP Paul Dewar.

Also, since CBC is doing an Alberta love fest this week - am I crazy or is it bullshit whenever people say Alberta pays hundreds of billions in equalization payments?
No, it's absolute bullshit. In fact, it is so bullshit that if you ever hear someone say that seriously, you are granted reprieve to ignore anything that person ever says going forward.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,278
No, it's absolute bullshit. In fact, it is so bullshit that if you ever hear someone say that seriously, you are granted reprieve to ignore anything that person ever says going forward.
But I was already ignoring Jason Kenney. :(

lol even Notley is saying it, but in a more "nuanced" manner.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,828
RIP Paul Dewar.

Also, since CBC is doing an Alberta love fest this week - am I crazy or is it bullshit whenever people say Alberta pays hundreds of billions in equalization payments?
Alberta’s GDP is 330ish billion dollars. Stockwell Day and people like him propagate that stupidity.
 
Oct 26, 2017
11,128
Montreal
Re: Quebec’s tax issue. This article sheds some light in terms of quebec’s tax process compared to rest of he country.

In 1954, under the nationalist-reactionary regime of Maurice Duplessis, Quebec decided to start collecting its own income tax, a great symbol of provincial autonomy but a colossal waste of time and money for Quebec taxpayers ever since

While in the rest of Canada, taxpayers fill out a single income tax form with a few tweaks for provincial taxes, in Quebec everybody must go through the whole process twice. What’s more, Ottawa offers a pretty sweet deal to the other nine provinces. The Canada Revenue Agency does all the heavy lifting and, with a few exceptions, hands over billions to the provinces without charging them anything.

The Quebec commission, led by Lucienne Robillard, a former federal minister, said that if Quebec City were to act rationally, like other provinces, and hand over collection of its provincial income tax to the cheaper and more efficient CRA, Quebec could save $400 million a year. Presumably, businesses and corporations would save even more.
like I said before, Quebec filing two forms is a entirely a Quebec created problem, not a Canadian problem.

Federal leaders need to stop pandering to Provincial Premiers, Federal leaders should listen to the citizens instead.

there are no citizens asking for this, this is all a power play by politicians who want more power.
 
Last edited:

Roke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
950
Canada
Yeah. If Quebec wants a single tax form they can accept the existing tax definitions and sign a Tax Collection Agreement with the federal government like all the other provinces and territories have. Following Scheer's idea (if he even has a plan, which he probably doesn't) would mean either Quebec accepting those definitions or income tax policy for the rest of Canada being set by the Quebec government.

Not a Globe subscriber so I don't know the details but this looks to be the big political story of the day:


My esteem for Wilson-Raybould goes up big time if it's true (still disappointed there wasn't any meaningful criminal justice reform, or at least scrapping mandatory minimums). Heads should roll in the PMO.
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2017
1,803
Yeah. If Quebec wants a single tax form they can accept the existing tax definitions and sign a Tax Collection Agreement with the federal government like all the other provinces and territories have. Following Scheer's idea (if he even has a plan, which he probably doesn't) would mean either Quebec accepting those definitions or income tax policy for the rest of Canada being set by the Quebec government.

Not a Globe subscriber so I don't know the details but this looks to be the big political story of the day:


My esteem for Wilson-Raybould goes up big time if it's true (still disappointed there wasn't any meaningful criminal justice reform, or at least scrapping mandatory minimums). Heads should roll in the PMO.
Yah it’s pay walled so i don’t know the details. Is there another source that talks about the article?

this is the closest i got. No real detail though.


If true heads should roll, though the denial sounds very close to Harper’s plausible deniability argument way back when.
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2017
1,803
I suggest Trudeau to go retrieve Jean Chrétien's Teflon force field.
i still remember when the day he choked that guy, i was there (as a bystander) and got caught up in the drama and one of his security details accidentally pushed me into him. I was too young to care or know what was going on. Good times.

Shawinigan handshake i believe came out of that.
 
Nov 4, 2017
919
Wilson-Raybould isn't talking, i.e. denying it. If she has the receipts, she can exact revenge.
Would be a nice opportunity to sack everyone in the PMO. They've been awful from the start. Or you never know, it might even bring Justin down.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,803
Wilson-Raybould isn't talking, i.e. denying it. If she has the receipts, she can exact revenge.
Would be a nice opportunity to sack everyone in the PMO. They've been awful from the start. Or you never know, it might even bring Justin down.
She could be the source.
 
Nov 4, 2017
919
She could be the source.
She probably is but what's the point if she's not going all the way? All it does now is paint the Libs as their shady old selves and impact their chances in the next elections.
I guess that if she reveals in the next few weeks that she's not seeking re-election, shit will be about to go down.
 
Oct 25, 2017
833
for purposes of getting around paywall https://outline.com/Rh4rNP
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s office attempted to press Jody Wilson-Raybould when she was justice minister to intervene in the corruption and fraud prosecution of Montreal engineering and construction giant SNC-Lavalin Group Inc., sources say, but she refused to ask federal prosecutors to make a deal with the company that could prevent a costly trial.

SNC-Lavalin has sought to avoid a criminal trial on fraud and corruption charges stemming from an RCMP investigation into its business dealings in Libya. Prosecutors alleged in February, 2015, that SNC paid millions of dollars in bribes to public officials in Libya between 2001 and 2011 to secure government contracts. The engineering company says executives who were responsible for the wrongdoing have left the company, and it has reformed ethics and compliance rules.

After the charges, SNC-Lavalin lobbied officials in Ottawa, including senior members in the office of Mr. Trudeau, to secure a deal known as a “deferred prosecution agreement” or “remediation agreement” that would set aside the prosecution. In such deals, which are used in the United States and Britain, a company would accept responsibility for the wrongdoing and pay a financial penalty, relinquish benefits gained from the wrongdoing and put in place compliance measures. “It is unfair that the actions of one or more rogue employees should tarnish a company’s reputation, as well as jeopardize its future success and its employees’ livelihoods,” SNC argued in a brief to federal officials in October, 2017.
...
Edit:

The Trudeau government in 2018 amended the Criminal Code to allow deferred-prosecution agreements that let prosecutors suspend criminal charges against Canadian companies found to have committed wrongdoing. The measure was inserted in the 2018 budget after a brief consultation in 2017.

Liberal insiders said Ms. Wilson-Raybound knew this legislative change was meant to help SNC-Lavalin out of the legal troubles that were weighing on the price of its shares. A conviction on the fraud and corruption charges could result in a 10-year ban from federal government contracts – a development that would lead to layoffs.
lmao such a corporation friendly little quiet change.
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2017
1,828
What’s the deal with Wilson-Raybould? It seems like she’s been seen in a negative light as the justice minister, or at least media pundits haven’t seemed to be particularly partial to her from my memory. Is she salty about her “demotion” to veteran affairs?
 
Oct 25, 2017
833
It is a pillar of our democracy that our system of justice be free from even the perception of political interference and uphold the highest levels of public confidence,” she wrote. “As such, it has always been my view that the attorney-general of Canada must be non-partisan, more transparent in the principles that are the basis of decisions, and, in this respect, always willing to speak truth to power. This is how I served throughout my tenure in that role.
— Jody Wilson-Raybould, in an online post on the day of her move from Justice to Veterans Affairs
👀
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,504
What’s the deal with Wilson-Raybould? It seems like she’s been seen in a negative light as the justice minister, or at least media pundits haven’t seemed to be particularly partial to her from my memory. Is she salty about her “demotion” to veteran affairs?
Uh.... Yes?
 
Oct 25, 2017
833
Lmao who cares about what dumbass shit politicians in another country did when they were in school.

The story here that the PMO tried to meddle in the judicial process is a bombshell, especially at a time when we’re trying to tell the Chinese government that we strictly follow the rule of law.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,074
Lmao who cares about what dumbass shit politicians in another country did when they were in school.

The story here that the PMO tried to meddle in the judicial process is a bombshell, especially at a time when we’re trying to tell the Chinese government that we strictly follow the rule of law.
Ayup. If this is true, heads need to roll and example need to be made. Everything is not fine.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,199
Legault's new immigration bill is going to get blocked in court really quickly. Jesus, I get that it's important to modify the selection criteria to give priorities to people with the right experience and education for the in-demand jobs and that speak French (or are at least willing to learn) but automatically deleting the current 18 000 applications is frankly disturbing. They are refunding people but it's dishonest to cast aside the time people invested into this.
 
Oct 26, 2017
11,128
Montreal
Legault is an instigator,

he is tossing a bunch of NATIOANLISssttes darts at the wall to stir up a fight with the Federal government,

he's going to be another trouble maker Premier

If this is true then Scheer is winning the election this year.
I don't think so, voters don't give a shit about PMO shenanigans.

Look at Jean Chretien, he served 3 terms with tons of scandals up his ass
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,803
I'm not one to defend this, but yah, if Harper can survive the Nigel Wright fiasco, this could be no different. He got booted not because of Wright but because his campaign fell apart near the end. And Mulcair. BUT the only difference is that this is close to election season. This will be fresh in people's mind?

Justin Ling has mentioned that nothing illegal actually happened. But the optics looks bad.

 
Oct 25, 2017
3,138
Legault is an instigator,

he is tossing a bunch of NATIOANLISssttes darts at the wall to stir up a fight with the Federal government,

he's going to be another trouble maker Premier


I don't think so, voters don't give a shit about PMO shenanigans.

Look at Jean Chretien, he served 3 terms with tons of scandals up his ass
The political media landscape, let alone the social landscape has changed enormously since Chretien was in power. Scandals may not stick around as long, but are easier to dig back up AND create from very little thanks in large part to social media
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,701
The political media landscape, let alone the social landscape has changed enormously since Chretien was in power. Scandals may not stick around as long, but are easier to dig back up AND create from very little thanks in large part to social media
Yeah there's going to be nothing but negative news about Trudeau in the run-up to the election. Doesn't matter how much of it is really true.

The media will play along, as they all have.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,828
Erin O’Toole always uses so many words to say so little. What a rock ribbed conservative.

I’m interested to see how this plays out though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,254
Toronto
I mean, it's not like its a secret that with the way things are going, shit is about to hit the fan real soon if things keep on our trajectory.

Incomes are low, stagnant and ever decreasing by percentage. Everything is rising in price at a rate much higher than inflation. Housing is absolutely unaffordable for basically anybody not squarely in the mid-upper middle class. People are drowning in debt and in most cases a single paycheque away form complete and utter financial ruin. Affordable Childcare is a myth and our so called "Universal Healthcare System" drowns people in medical debt through Pharmaceuticals and Dental. And much more.

People just straight up have no money left month to month to even think about saving. And in fact, if the rumours and warnings of recession coming in the next couple years rears its ugly head, a lot of people are going to be left utterly fucked.
 
Last edited:
Oct 25, 2017
1,199
I mean, it's not like its a secret that with the way things are going, shit is about to hit the fucking fan real fucking soon if things keep on our trajectory.

Incomes are low, stagnant and ever decreasing by percentage. Everything is rising in price at a rate much higher than inflation. Housing is absolutely unaffordable for basically anybody not squarely in the mid-upper middle class. People are drowning in debt and in most cases a single paycheque away form complete and utter financial ruin. Affordable Childcare is a myth and our so called "Universal Healthcare System" drowns people in medical debt through Pharmaceuticals and Dental. And much more.

People just straight up have no money left month to month to even think about saving. And in fact, if the rumours and warnings of recession coming in the next couple years rears its ugly head, a lot of people are going to be left utterly fucked.
Two interesting links I found :

This one from the Globe and Mail circa 2015.
The survey, conducted by Pollara for the Bank of Montreal, found that Canadians on average have $41,694 in emergency savings, up from an average of $35,237 in 2014.

However, 24 per cent of respondents said they had hardly anything set aside and more than half, 56 per cent, reported having less than $10,000 in available emergency funds.
This one from a CIBC poll released on newswire from 2018

  • 90 per cent of Canadians, who are not currently retired or semi-retired, do not have a formal and detailed retirement plan that describes the lifestyle they want
    • 53 per cent aren't sure if they're saving enough
    • 37 per cent either aren't able to save or haven't thought about retirement
  • $756,000 is the average amount Canadians estimate they'll need in personal savings to retire comfortably, while 26 per cent don't know
    • Millennials (aged 18-34) believe they'll need the most at about $917,000, compared to $842,000 for Generation X (aged 35-54), and $518,000 for Boomers aged 55+
  • $184,000 is the average amount Canadians say they've saved for retirement
    • 30 per cent have no retirement savings, and a further 19 per cent have saved less than $50,000
  • 63 is the average age at which Canadians plan to, or did, retire
On the cusp of retirement

The poll findings also show that almost a third (32 per cent) of those nearing, or on the cusp of retirement age (45-64), have nothing saved for their retirement; and among those with retirement savings, the average value of their nest egg is $345,000, while most (49 per cent) have saved less than $250,000
In both case a huge amount of people 24-32% have 0$ in savings. Poor salary and services aren't the only to blame unfortunately. Lifestyle, education and personality are also a huge part of it. Provincial government is also a big player.

In QC for instance we have pharmacare if your job doesn't offer one and medication and dental works for kids is free. Our pharmacare even pays for chemotherapy and expensive last chance immunotherapy treatment or palliative treatment. We have affordable daycare modulated according to revenues of the parents. We have paid maternity or paternity leave (1 year) when giving birth or adopting. We also have cheap university fees as the government is subsidizing the costs so you pay about 1300$ for a full semester. We also have our own Québec pension plan managed by the CDPQ (the second biggest fund in Canada). We also have a no fault system for car accidents where the money is pooled through the government so you never pay and get indemnity if your are victim of an accident. All that stuff is super expensive though so the government takes it all through taxes on your salary and in a way manage your money for you so you don't have too. You just have to be careful because you have much less on each of your paycheck.

Financial ruins because of medical debt or student debit isn't very likely here but our salary are lower and we are taxed higher. The choices we have to make are different than the other province.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,449
Ottawa Canada
This SNC stuff is crazy. If true, it confirms a number of talking points regarding Trudeau government hypocrisy. I dont see how they survive it, unless Scheer and Singh are as terrible at their jobs as they look so far.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,803
A lot of big local news flew under the radar yesterday inspite of the big news item. Such as the Ford government being predictable as ever.


And parents of autistic kids getting screwed over.