Canada PoliERA |OT| Two Years of Sunny Days? That’s Scheer Madness!

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TheTrinity

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I actually got interviewed about those gas prices for Breakfast Television Vancouver where they get those 'man on the street' single line quotes from people at gas stations. I'm not sure they used it because I didn't actually care that much. I bike 95% of the time so this was the first time I was fuelling up in over a month.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I think it's ridiculous gouging by the fuel companies because there are 'summer fuel prices' for some reason. The price jumped up over 10 cents/liter compared to the day before.
 

killerrin

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Oct 25, 2017
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If anything, it serves as another statistic to put onto the stack that the more educated someone is, the less likely they are to fall for Conservative Rhetoric. Not to say it's impossible, just less likely.

That said. The rest of the numbers are expected. Conservatives don't want anything to do with immigration, Progressives want more. Liberals are sitting in the center wanting to hold the line.
 

Tiktaalik

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It's remarkable how quickly the Liberal party dropped the whole "helping refugees" thing the moment it became a political liability.

In two years, Liberals go from #WelcomeToCanada to deportations without hearings

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“We will restore Canada’s reputation,” the Liberals boasted in the refugees section of their 2015 election platform, “and help more people in need through a program that is safe, secure and humane.”

“Canada once welcomed refugees openly,” it goes on, “but that proud history has faded after a decade of mismanagement under Stephen Harper. We will renew and expand our commitment to helping resettle more refugees, and deliver a refugee program that is safe, secure and humane.”

But that was then, and the refugees that made such useful props for Justin Trudeau in the last election have become an obstacle to his chances in the next, in the face of relentless Tory fear-mongering about the “crisis” on our border. So, over the side they go.

That this was accomplished via yet another mammoth omnibus bill compounds the sense of betrayal. The 2015 Liberal platform also denounced the Harper government for its use of omnibus bills “to prevent Parliament from properly reviewing and debating his proposals,” vowing to “bring an end” to “this undemocratic practice.”

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Real Change™ = a con act woke washing of the same old Liberal Party .
 

Pedrito

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Nov 4, 2017
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I can't wait for another round of hard-hitting rebel journalism about how Paris is full of brown people not walking around with a baguette under their arm and a croissant in their mouth.
 

Tiktaalik

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If anything, it serves as another statistic to put onto the stack that the more educated someone is, the less likely they are to fall for Conservative Rhetoric. Not to say it's impossible, just less likely.

That said. The rest of the numbers are expected. Conservatives don't want anything to do with immigration, Progressives want more. Liberals are sitting in the center wanting to hold the line.
From a Vancouver (and maybe Toronto?) context, I think there's a growing nativism that is based much more around economic and class concerns than racial ones. Thanks to the Quebec Investor Immigrant Program, there is a huge amount foreign wealth pouring into Canada, and in recent years much of these millionaire migrants have been visible minorities from Mainland China that have beelined to Vancouver and to a lesser extent Toronto.

There's very much a sense in Vancouver that "the system is rigged" with the city being the centre for super car sales in North America, and news stories every day about money being laundered through casinos and being poured into real estate, exacerbating Vancouver's housing affordability problems. It's not surprising that low income, and low education persons would be opposed to the status quo that encourages the immigration of the ultra wealthy that are disrupting the local economy while their core concerns remain unaddressed.

It's unfortunate but I could see migrant race being a shorthand descriptor for some of these concerns. I could very much expect an increased opposition to Mainland Chinese immigration that stems largely from these socio-economic concerns, which are actually unrelated to race. The fact is of course that these core economic problems related to millionaire migrants would exist regardless of the origin or race of the persons. I'd love to see whichever new government is elected in 2019 tackle this issue, because the current one does not seem interested.
 

mintzilla

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Edmonton seems safe enough, it’s the rest of the province that’s going to drag everybody down.

I expect it from the rural areas but its Calgary that really is shameful. that city has been the breeding ground for hateful conservatism for a long ass time and they never get enough shit for it. (where are all the "but but we voted for shade of brown Nenshi so we cant be awful" people during provincial and federal elections.?)
 

killerrin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Remember everybody. Expectations tshould be set below the Earth, burried where they belong, right next to the hopes and dreams of progressive policy.

Jason Kenney has been trying out crowns the past two years and has so many he's really having a hard time deciding which one to wear tonight
 
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Becks'

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Dec 7, 2017
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The Trump effect is real. We really love to copy what Americans do.

Selling "good old days" as a platform which happened only because the rest of the world was in ashes.
 

SRG01

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FUCK

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

edit: there's only a 10000 vote difference, but I'm still pessimistic.
 

Becks'

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First Legault
Then Doug Ford
Then Jason Kenney
Next stop, Justin Trudeau.

Thank you SNC Lavalin and classic Liberal Corruption.

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Honestly, it was inevitable after Trump's victory. Every conservative that I know only yells about Trump and his policies. Our politics are influenced way too much by US. Sure, Liberals messed it up big time but Notley didn't do anything wrong, in fact she improved the province but she is still losing. It is such a BS knowing that the internal politics of Canada are influenced by some orange turd.
 

bremon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Alberta is a fucking dumpster fire. So fucking ashamed of this province right now. Some O&G coworkers I have expressed dismay at the idea of Kenney “turning off the taps”. Plenty of things he has said have given people reason to be skeptical of his priorities but the uneducated sheep of this province feverishly votes him in with selective hearing towards his policies.
 

SRG01

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Alberta is a fucking dumpster fire. So fucking ashamed of this province right now. Some O&G coworkers I have expressed dismay at the idea of Kenney “turning off the taps”. Plenty of things he has said have given people reason to be skeptical of his priorities but the uneducated sheep of this province feverishly votes him in with selective hearing towards his policies.
It's always been a dumpster fire. We just had a few good years where it actually seemed like it could be better.

As an aside, a lot of Calgary ridings are really close. I'll take solace in the fact that the NDP is making inroads to Calgary.
 

SushiX

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Oct 25, 2017
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The only way Notley was going to win was if the economy took off again and in a big way.
30k votes and difference of 30 seats. Fuck you, JT.
? Wouldn't the federal Liberals only introduce proportional representation federally?

Also, the Alberta party has 10% of the vote and no seats. Sucks for them. Will be interesting to see how well they survive for the next election in 4 years.
 

SRG01

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The only way Notley was going to win was if the economy took off again and in a big way.

? Wouldn't the federal Liberals only introduce proportional representation federally?

Also, the Alberta party has 10% of the vote and no seats. Sucks for them. Will be interesting to see how well they survive for the next election in 4 years.
They won't. I gave up on the Alberta Party because it got taken over by ex-PCs and supplanted Greg Clark as leader.
 

Azzanadra

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Imagine looking at our friends down south these past two years and saying "yep, that's what we need to do". Lol.

Then again, Ontario just did it less than a year ago.
 

SRG01

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Imagine looking at our friends down south these past two years and saying "yep, that's what we need to do". Lol.

Then again, Ontario just did it less than a year ago.
Canadian politics always follows the US.

Having said that, Canada has a strange tradition of propping up conservative provincial governments.
 
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