Canada PoliERA |OT| Two Years of Sunny Days? That’s Scheer Madness!

Tanooki

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Oct 25, 2017
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as a strong Scheer supporter, I don’t see how this is suppose to sway my view in any way. It literally just shows me what little Justin has accomplished during his years in office... nothing but empty promises.
 

S-Wind

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Nov 4, 2017
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as a strong Scheer supporter, I don’t see how this is suppose to sway my view in any way. It literally just shows me what little Justin has accomplished during his years in office... nothing but empty promises.
What is it about Scheer, and his policies, and his views, that you support strongly?
 
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Prax

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Oct 25, 2017
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lol

I think despite JT's walking back on electoral reform and maybe one or two things or not going hard enough, he's done relatively okay as a Prime Minister if only because it required undoing a lot of Harper's garbage (unmuzzling scientists, bringing the StatsCan's census back, cancelling the less popular pipeline). The economy is stable, the stress test for mortgages was helpful (even if the new home buyer's incentive will undo some of that), relations with first nations and foreign nations have improved if only because of greater cooperation, improved social consciousness by maintaining that we remain a diverse and inlusive society because even if it's mostly lipservice it is still meaningful (thankfully he also did things like welcoming the Syrian refugees).

I don't know what Scheer would actually bring to the table but dumbstuff that will have to be undone again.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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as a strong Scheer supporter, I don’t see how this is suppose to sway my view in any way. It literally just shows me what little Justin has accomplished during his years in office... nothing but empty promises.
That Climate Action checklist isn't designed to sway "strong" Scheer supporters. Why would it? Why would you care about "empty promises" on an underlying issue that doesn't concern you in any way?

It's like whining about "empty promises" made to Indigenous Peoples in Canada, then revealing you're Lynn Beyak.

If Trudeau did something that isn't seen as an "empty promise" to a strong Scheer supporter, Scheer would run on a con platform to undo it. Doug Ford is perfect example of this. Make Ontario Dumb Again.
 

Tanooki

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Oct 25, 2017
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What's there to feel strong about in Scheer? Homophobia? Xenophobia?
lol, I’m gay and don’t feel at all concerned about my rights should Scheer take office. I know he’s made some poorly thought out comments about gay marriage in the past, and he’s entitled to have his own opinion, but I believe him (and the conservatives in general) are at a point now of leaving well enough alone. I’m concerned about my financial future living in Canada as a full-time employeed Canadian Citizen, and my government should be too.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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I’m concerned about my financial future living in Canada as a full-time employeed Canadian Citizen, and my government should be too.
What is Trudeau doing that's giving you economic anxiety? If that's your concern, why post that Climate Action checklist and complain about empty promises?
 

Sibylus

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Oct 25, 2017
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lol, I’m gay and don’t feel at all concerned about my rights should Scheer take office. I know he’s made some poorly thought out comments about gay marriage in the past, and he’s entitled to have his own opinion, but I believe him (and the conservatives in general) are at a point now of leaving well enough alone. I’m concerned about my financial future living in Canada as a full-time employeed Canadian Citizen, and my government should be too.
I'm gay and feel very much concerned. You may have the privileged position to allow yourself to look past the reactionary, fundamentalist, and convert-or-burn forces he's courting, but I don't. Must be nice to live by fuck you, got mine.
 

Tanooki

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Oct 25, 2017
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What is Trudeau doing that's giving you economic anxiety? If that's your concern, why post that Climate Action checklist and complain about empty promises?
dude got handed a growing economy by Harper, then went ahead with tax hikes. Look at the state of our trades, and interest rates. I’m not saying those things weren’t bound to happen by external factors, but I would at least like to have a government that is actually proactive. I do not trust the Liberals at all, or any of these other parties with niche priorities.
 
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Caz

Caz

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dude got handed a growing economy by Harper, then went ahead with tax hikes. Look at the state of our trades, and interest rates. I’m not saying those things weren’t bound to happen by external factors, but I would at least like to have a government that is actually proactive. I do not trust the Liberals at all, or any of these other parties with niche priorities.
Ah yes that growing...recession that Harper's economic policies contributed to along with the billions he added to the deficit. Fiscal conservatism!

Also if one of your major concerns with the current Trudeau government is an inability to trust them, I have no idea how you reconcile that with Scheer's secretive talk to anti-choice candidates. Or how he refuses to answer why he chose a white supremacist to manage his party's campaign.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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You're being intentionally vague.
Look at the state of our trades, and interest rates.
What about them? If you want to talk about the economy, let's talk about it. But you need to qualify your statements.
I’m not saying those things weren’t bound to happen by external factors, but I would at least like to have a government that is actually proactive.
You're not saying anything here.
I do not trust the Liberals at all, or any of these other parties with niche priorities.
What are the niche priorities? Climate change?

What is Scheer going to do that will ease your concerns? If lower taxes is the only thing you care about, then just say that.
 

excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
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lol, I’m gay and don’t feel at all concerned about my rights should Scheer take office. I know he’s made some poorly thought out comments about gay marriage in the past, and he’s entitled to have his own opinion, but I believe him (and the conservatives in general) are at a point now of leaving well enough alone. I’m concerned about my financial future living in Canada as a full-time employeed Canadian Citizen, and my government should be too.
Lol


dude got handed a growing economy by Harper, then went ahead with tax hikes. Look at the state of our trades, and interest rates. I’m not saying those things weren’t bound to happen by external factors, but I would at least like to have a government that is actually proactive. I do not trust the Liberals at all, or any of these other parties with niche priorities.
Ahh yes the Liberals and co have niche priorities while the great Andy has the white priorities eh?
 

Mackaveli

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tax on split income is one of the best things Trudeau did. As an accountant its crazy how a doctor making 500k can split income with their spouse and children and lower the effective tax rate by a lot. Especially if their children were in school and 18 you could give each kid like 40k in dividends and pay close to zero tax. In what world is that fair.

I loved how people didn’t understand the rule (they should have had better marketing and explanation when it came out) as family businesses like local restaurants and others were not impacted at all but whenever They were interviewed they thought they would be paying more in tax.
 
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Caz

Caz

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Tax on split income is one of the best things Trudeau did. As an accountant its crazy how a doctor making 500k can split income with their spouse and children and lower the effective tax rate by a lot. Especially if their children were in school and 18 you could give each kid like 40k in dividends and pay close to zero tax. In what world is that fair.

I loved how people didn’t understand the rule (they should have had better marketing and explanation when it came out) as family businesses like local restaurants and others were not impacted at all but whenever They were interviewed they thought they would be paying more in tax.
As a fellow accountant, don't even get me started on how ridiculously long the carry-forward/back rule can be applied.
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks like Doug is emerging from his lair a bit early.

So that's Scheer, Kenney, and now Ford leadership wins that were rigged.