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Canada PoliERA |OT| Two Years of Sunny Days? That’s Scheer Madness!
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Thought this clip was interesting because of the contrast in how Rep Ilhan Omar handled a racist question versus how Jagmeet Singh has.
If you recall, Singh's mushy responses to Terry Milewski's similar questioning on whether Singh would offer to denounce some action by some other Sikh created a whole news cycle allowing the Canadian media to harass him about whether or not Singh supported Sikh terrorism.
TL;DR Ilhan Omar is a way way better speaker and politician than Jagmeet Singh
If you recall, Singh's mushy responses to Terry Milewski's similar questioning on whether Singh would offer to denounce some action by some other Sikh created a whole news cycle allowing the Canadian media to harass him about whether or not Singh supported Sikh terrorism.
TL;DR Ilhan Omar is a way way better speaker and politician than Jagmeet Singh
I think there's a couple of issues where it doesn't work.
a) Omar will never be a national politician so she can afford to alienate the Trump-base by challenging their racism. Singh doesn't have that luxury. On the same note, I don't think any party has the same stance as Omar on Israel, for example. Maybe the NDP but I don't think they go around talking about Israeli Apartheid in the West Bank.
b) Canadians like to think of themselves as "beyond racism" so I bet you that if Singh had called out that questioning, he would be called un-Canadian and not supporting multiculturalism.
It should be 100% indigenous owned with 51%+ going to communities on the route and 49%- to other indigenous nations of Canada that want to invest.
This would have multiple positive effects like giving communities on the route complete control and maybe discouraging pressure that might lead to over-development.
Those environmentally friendly projects could go a long way to improving remote communities and creating infrastructure and jobs.
I am legit terrified of October. Ford getting elected just showed me how hated POC are outside of the major hubs. We have a lot to work on and the narrative that racism doesn't exist in Canada just serves to further empower these people.
8hrs after the 'listening tour' article above Project Reconciliation made a $6.9 billion offer for the pipeline.
If negotiations go well and swiftly and the pipeline becomes Indigenous owned before the election and it starts being built right away that could really effect the election in the West. Prompt a lot of green energy economic discussion.
So many benefits this will bring for everyone.
Liberal sweep of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and BC. Yeah, I know that's not going to happen but it might help them quite a bit.
If negotiations go well and swiftly and the pipeline becomes Indigenous owned before the election and it starts being built right away that could really effect the election in the West. Prompt a lot of green energy economic discussion.
So many benefits this will bring for everyone.
Liberal sweep of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and BC. Yeah, I know that's not going to happen but it might help them quite a bit.
WTF, there's a taker already? I completely forgot about TMX. Good luck to that group I hope it pans out.
Electorally, the best this would do is a MOE tick in BC. No change in AB or SK. I could be wrong on BC but I feel like AB and SK already made their decision.
Electorally, the best this would do is a MOE tick in BC. No change in AB or SK. I could be wrong on BC but I feel like AB and SK already made their decision.
You underestimate racism in the west. Instead of being good news, it will be twisted into Trudeau favoring Indigenous people over "regular" Canadian oil companies. Just another handout, it will be said. I live in SK, I know how people here think.
Maybe. There could be real substantial benefits which could sway many peoples minds when carefully explained.
Having an Indigenous energy consortium with the goal of using the profits to transition to green energy development owning the pipeline is an incredible opportunity for everyone.
First, there is the direct benefit of the pipeline to AB's economy. That's just the start. The money Project Reconcilliation would be investing in green development would be creating jobs across a lot of sectors and areas as it gets up and running.
It could also help a lot with encouraging the rest of the nation to move to green economy and energy ideas as the industry workforce and technology is developed in various regions.
It might not change many votes. At best I'd say it could help the Liberals keep a few seats in the interior of BC and maybe push a couple their way. Vancouver and the Island though, yeah, lol.
I'd like part of the negotiations to include a directive to develop Kitimat to divert other shipping and reduce traffic in Juan de Fuca Strait. Maybe a slight reduction in pipeline output too to reduce tanker traffic a little bit.
Having an Indigenous energy consortium with the goal of using the profits to transition to green energy development owning the pipeline is an incredible opportunity for everyone.
First, there is the direct benefit of the pipeline to AB's economy. That's just the start. The money Project Reconcilliation would be investing in green development would be creating jobs across a lot of sectors and areas as it gets up and running.
It could also help a lot with encouraging the rest of the nation to move to green economy and energy ideas as the industry workforce and technology is developed in various regions.
It might not change many votes. At best I'd say it could help the Liberals keep a few seats in the interior of BC and maybe push a couple their way. Vancouver and the Island though, yeah, lol.
I'd like part of the negotiations to include a directive to develop Kitimat to divert other shipping and reduce traffic in Juan de Fuca Strait. Maybe a slight reduction in pipeline output too to reduce tanker traffic a little bit.
Yeah, there will be some entrenched racism, unfortunately. The pipeline being developed, no matter who owns it, at least lets the bitumen and whatever else flow and will help the AB region. That should be the main focus and make it acceptable for anyone that is reachable, pragmatic and not a racist.
Not sure of the funding structure. The handout thing makes me laugh. I think car companies get government loan write offs in that range. Not that that is a good thing. I believe they have their own means of funding. It'll be interesting to see what the final deal is.
I don't doubt that is the case, since I'm regularly surrounded by the kind of people you allude to, but their provincial conservative leaders will snap their fingers and say it's great news that ensures the pipeline's construction will move forward and they'll grumble for a while, hold their nose and accept that it's best to have the pipeline issue resolved in a way that resolves Indigenous concerns, relegating their racism to some twisted form of jealousy at Indigenous prosperity, but not directed in such a way that it torpedoes the first real chance of resolving the situation.
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Hmm, I's say racism really didn't have anything to do with Ford's win.
Anecdotal of course, but as I was campaigning for the NDP there was no real distinction in race in the GTA among those who supported the PCs and those who supported other parties. My family is Muslim, and we voted NDP cuz we poor but our well-off extended family all voted Cons. The Sex-Ed thing was huge in rallying the conservative-minded immigrants against the Liberals.
And in general, Ford Nation has historically had a healthy population of PoC, many even working class.
So in this latest report. Chris Alexander charges that Russia was actively using a disinformation campaign towards Canada so Harper would lose.
Some people in the intelligence community disputes that...
It is a lengthy article that so far summarizes recent events but adds a Canadian twist. The article goes out of the way to say that the Russian government were not colluding with the liberals party, just making Harper lose.
I'm honestly skeptical of anything Alexander says and so far side with Carvin.
Some people in the intelligence community disputes that...
It is a lengthy article that so far summarizes recent events but adds a Canadian twist. The article goes out of the way to say that the Russian government were not colluding with the liberals party, just making Harper lose.
I'm honestly skeptical of anything Alexander says and so far side with Carvin.
I hope this keeps up.
Alexander is still bitter as he got dragged for what happened with Aylan Kurdi and it didn't make him look good.
There's the Richmond Night Market that's going on right now. And there's an outlet mall at MacArthur Glen on the way to the airport.
Promote Mathieu Bock-Côté
Shit on the media
Celebrate nationalism
All in the same tweet! That's gonna help with the Trump comparisons.
In other Quebec news, the old lady who's suing Trudeau for defamation after he insinuated that she was racist during a townhall took part of the "vague bleue" rally this weekend and during the speech, said that "Quebecois have many enemies, like muslims, jews, anglos, sikhs and the federal government." Good luck with that lawsuit!
Ontario government to reverse direction on autism program and provide families with needs-based support
About fucking time. It's fucking shameful that it took the threat of them killing their Federal Partners in Crime to actually do the right fucking thing. Those poor children which were used as political pawns.
If you like cats Richmond has one of the largest cat sanctuaries in NA and it is open to the public on weekends. http://catsanctuary.ca
Otherwise the Canada Line will briskly take you to parts to Vancouver, so there's lots of things along there that are pretty accessible. Probably the best stops for tourists would be Olympic Village for its adjacency to False Creek and breweries along Main and Waterfront for its accessibility to good Gastown shopping and restaurants.
I was momentarily confused about how this People's Party tweet ended up on my Twitter feed, but then I saw it's being promoted. Ready to embrace Mad Max's solutions for "sensible immigration, simple taxation & the malaise of political correctness"?
Welcome to my hometown SRG01 :) I used to live about a 10 minute walk from Steveston Village. Make sure you hit up the whole village area and not just the harbor area. I don't know how into museum-type stuff you are but the Britannia Shipyards and Gulf of Georgia Cannery are right there (national historic sites) as well as Garry Point Park which has a lovely seaside trail and a Japanese garden.
You've only got a couple days it sounds like so there's a lot of decisions to be made about what to see in the limited time.
I concur with Tiktaalik about the stops on the Canada Line. If you're a beer fan I can recommend stopping at Craft Beer Market in Olympic Village.
I feel like it's required to do at least a little bit of touristing in Stanley Park so you should hit that up.
And yeah, it's quite nice to walk through Gastown. You can be one of those tourists who takes a picture with the Steam Clock (not actually powered by steam).
And this follows a big ad buy introducing Scheer to Canadians. At this point it seems clear that the more people see of Scheer the less likely they are to vote for him.
Doug Ford stanning for a winery who recently donated to the OPC:
Spending that vacation wisely.
We got #BoycottPeleeWinery trending today though lol.
Spending that vacation wisely.
We got #BoycottPeleeWinery trending today though lol.
I am surprised that 65+ years old people are willing to let economy tank because of climate change. On the other hand, Gen X and early Boomers in Ontario and Alberta stay ignorant and trash.
I've been wondering when it would be revealed there's some kind of financial reason for his weird obsession with alcohol.
I mean, we're talking about a hash dealer who enabled and was ultimately responsible for his brothers death. Someone who screwed his brothers family out of their inhertitance. A man who protected his brother when he was found guilty of drinking and driving and attacked a council which was punishing him for it.
Reason has absolutely no meaning with this scumbag. Make no mistake, he's a manipulator. He was going to do this anyways, because as every good drug dealer knows, the first hit is always free. Of course, the money was a nice bonus.
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So Kinsella is done with the Greens already... hell if Trudeau is fine having Butts around then who cares at this point. There's no real morals or rules left anymore lol
The people who say they have a neutral opinion are stranger to me than those who say they have a positive one. Who is neutral on Donald Trump at this point?BuckAWine
BuckACup?
Also, Quebec making me proud there :
Hmm lets see how things are going in the arctic this summer...
But yeah we can definitely keep developing our oil sands everything is fine guys.
But yeah we can definitely keep developing our oil sands everything is fine guys.
Statistics are weird in that it always reveals some very strange people.
Who are the 4% of NDP supporters that have a positive view of Trump? It doesn't make any sense! I can only imagine what kind of strange world view such a person would have.
Who are the 4% of NDP supporters that have a positive view of Trump? It doesn't make any sense! I can only imagine what kind of strange world view such a person would have.
I know of one such person myself. Can't say if this perspective applies to everyone, but this individual believes Trump is the one who really cares about working people in comparison to Democrat establishment. Expectedly, in 2016, he supported Bernie before going over to Trump.
Anecdotally, it's the people who like the racism but don't like that he's hurting Canada.
Fascist party says fascist things.
My take is that it comes from the Obama-Trump voters of the political spectrum the Canadian kind. Big tent parties are not homogenous and even Liberal/NDP voters will vote stupid if given the option. Labour union members first spring to mind.
The scary bit is not the 4%. The scary bit is the ones who won't admit to it until it's too late.
CPC making sure the christian vote is locked down.
Maybe a certain kind of Christian.
I'm Christian and I wouldn't vote for him in a million years.
lmao 'place that never melts'. Are there even gonna be any animals left to protect in this refuge after climate change has run its course? What a fucking joke.
Real action to protect the arctic would involve a massive program to cut CO2 emissions, not oil sands expansion and a promise not to raise the carbon tax.
LOL
I completely missed this tweet. It's so fucking true. I'll say again, western alienation is a self inflicted wound that's viewed as "old man yells at cloud" in other parts of country.
I can't wait to ride from Google's Union Station to Coca Cola Rutherford GO Station.
Or use washroom powered by Amazon Web Services while giving my data to Jeff Bezos.
Or use washroom powered by Amazon Web Services while giving my data to Jeff Bezos.
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