Ironically it's the one issue where the Liberals are also afraid to engage Conservatives because of the long gun registry. It's why they refuse to comment on John Tory, of all fucking people, asking for a federal ban on hand guns in Canada. It's something to be "studied" aka please forget about this until the next mass shooting happens.The abortion/gay marriage stuff is wedge issue dredged out of nowhere to distract voters into focusing on the battleground that the Liberals want to fight on. It's the going to be the Paul Martin 2006 election all over again where the Liberals raise the spectre of guns in our cities or whatever else scary thing they'll pin on the Conservatives.
The third party advantage comes from painting the other two with the same broad brush, which is why the NDP strategy worked in Quebec when people were desperate for a protest vote and found a place to put it. I just don't know if there's actually a real appetite for a third party alternative, or if there's a way to make people understand that Liberals and Conservatives want to preserve the existing paradigms of governance.Meanwhile in polling on issues Canadians are overwhelmingly in favour of social democratic policies like wealth taxes and pharmacare, but that's not part of the conversation because the Liberals don't want it to be. They'd rather fight issues of the past that they've already won, and the media is happy to play along. The dumb ass NDP gets suckered into this battleground too when they should instead be talking about something else.
It's because the carbon emissions it takes to keep the rink cold in the summer is damaging the planet and the NDP are trying to find a more natural alternative to hockey. lolI feel like the NDP are always playing a different game than what is called, which explains why they have always been relegated to the protest vote.
The conservatives and liberals are playing hockey and the NDP arrives with a cricket bat.
I was actually having a conversation with someone about this because she saw me reading this thread. lolHonestly, it seems very weird to me to frame this as "We're talking about abortion and gay marriage because the Liberals want us to" and not "We're talking about it because the conservatives chose a leader who is against those things." Social issues can't be dismissed as settled when one of the two parties who always wins elections is regressive as hell.
Historically, when/where Liberals are exceptionally weak, NDP become the leftist heir apparent (see also: 2011 in Quebec). This is clearly a better alternative to them going blue. Liberal voters in Ontario seemed to notably decide that was never going to be the case anymore, as did several prairie ridings in the federal election in 2015. It'd be a shame if NDP voters repaid that courtesy by not ABC voting and rolling over for Liberals, just like it was a shame that Liberal voters in SK gave us Andrew Scheer.come back to me to day orange flips blue seats instead of going after red seats
I feel like the NDP are always playing a different game than what is called, which explains why they have always been relegated to the protest vote.
The conservatives and liberals are playing hockey and the NDP arrives with a cricket bat.
Yeah, to say nothing of the the fact that you chose the potentially "un-Canadian" sport of cricket for the party with the leader that has an Indian racial background... yeah, you could have chosen a less thorny option for your sport analogy joke. By a long shot.
I'm saying you (almost assuredly inadvertently) created a racist dogwhistle with that joke. I thought that was all pretty self-explanatory, but whatever, it's not terribly important. Just always good to be mindful of that sort of thing.
dude thats one hell of a reach...I'm saying you (almost assuredly inadvertently) created a racist dogwhistle with that joke. I thought that was all pretty self-explanatory, but whatever, it's not terribly important. Just always good to be mindful of that sort of thing.
come back to me to day orange flips blue seats instead of going after red seats
That's why I clarified that it was 99% likely to be an unfortunate accident, with what I know of the poster. We disagree on a few things, but he's a decent person.
I'm just glad America has a reactionary left that has mobilized that wants to bring up these issues and force people to confront them. I just wish we had something similar here.
Thankfully, atleast we have the "America Follower" effect to look forward to... if you believe in the theory that Canada is always 10 years behind the USA, Politically.I think because the reactionary left of America is born out of and strong from desperation due to America's "special" situation (uncontrolled capitalism in their healthcare market, NRA, systematic shootings, LGBTQ rollbacks, environmental rollbacks, ultraevangelism), for us to have that kind of left, we'd need to devolve about as much as America first. Kind of a monkey's paw desire if you ask me!
I think because the reactionary left of America is born out of and strong from desperation due to America's "special" situation (uncontrolled capitalism in their healthcare market, NRA, systematic shootings, LGBTQ rollbacks, environmental rollbacks, ultraevangelism), for us to have that kind of left, we'd need to devolve about as much as America first. Kind of a monkey's paw desire if you ask me!
I believe it. And I'm scared lol.Thankfully, atleast we have the "America Follower" effect to look forward to... if you believe in the theory that Canada is always 10 years behind the USA, Politically.
Except we are generally years ahead of them in reality. Every major social breakthrough of the last few decades has come to Canada before the US.Thankfully, atleast we have the "America Follower" effect to look forward to... if you believe in the theory that Canada is always 10 years behind the USA, Politically.
for real, Canada has been "progressively" ahead of the US. like 6 decades ahead on healthcare lolExcept we are generally years ahead of them in reality. Every major social breakthrough of the last few decades has come to Canada before the US.
Kim Campbell, Canada's first and only female prime minister, wrote on Twitter Wednesday: "I'm rooting for a direct hit on Mar a Lago!"
Campbell on Thursday continued to tweet about the storm and how it is appears to be heading toward Mar-a-Lago.
"Well, we will see if Mrs. Post's design can stand up to the assault!" she wrote in a tweet, referencing the cereal heiress Marjorie Merriweather Post, who built Mar-a-Lago. "I know Palm Beach well and am sorry if it gets a big hit.
Nah, pretty sure the GST and the formation of the BQ did that.Kim saying the quiet part loud. Isn't that what killed the Progressive Conservatives?
You forgot the Reform Party (Western Resentment cry babies)Nah, pretty sure the GST and the formation of the BQ did that.
Until the PCs collapsed and the West had no viable conservatives to vote for, they were a non-entity joke. Hell, they kept on being a joke right up until Harper regardless.
There was no Overton window shift, though. Harper knew how to play the game and got away with what he did by obeying the position of Overton window of the rest of the country by playing up the idea he didn't want to move it.Yeah careful what you wish for in hoping the People's Party splits the vote. Reform Party was a joke right up until it wasn't and it destroyed the Progressive Conservatives and dragged the Overton Window to the right.
The People's Party will do the same unless it's snuffed out from the get go.
If the PPC is given any credibility at all it'll likely do this same, weakening the Conservative Party, then inevitably merging with it, dragging the Conservative Party closer to the PPC
Posted in the other thread but I'll post here as well for those that have not seen it: Trudeau was on the latest episode of Patriot Act on Netflix.
Unpopular opinion, but the austerity measures in Canada during that time was necessary because Canada was IIRC about to get its credit rating downgraded because its sluggish growth meant that they were increasingly incapable of servicing their debt payments.
Like, MMT and similar policies are only effective under the presumption of growth. It all falls apart when growth and inflation don't happen -- much like the US shortly after the 2008 recession when they were printing and stimulating like crazy.
Granted, the austerity wasn't what brought about the Canadian economic boom of the late 90s, but that's also not to say the austerity wasn't necessary -- it most definitely was.
Austerity never worked,
Austerity only serves at weakening the working class and middle class making them more subservient with less money in their pockets.
Austerity is bullshit
Austerity never worked,
Austerity only serves at weakening the working class and middle class making them more subservient with less money in their pockets.
Austerity is bullshit
He's a crypto-fascist fuck and deserves more than a milkshake to the dome.
Did you guys see Maxime Bernier attacking Greta Thunberg on Twitter?
What a fucking coward.
This goes on for 8 tweets.
If both were too afraid to go outside because their lip-flapping inspires punchy behavior in normal people, that'd be swell.So is Scheer, I struggle to see much difference between the two besides Bernier just dropping all dog whistles.
If both were too afraid to go outside because their lip-flapping inspires punchy behavior in normal people, that'd be swell.
Scheer and Bernier believe the same things, it's just that Bernier is more "honest" about what he believes in while Scheer skates around ambiguitySo is Scheer, I struggle to see much difference between the two besides Bernier just dropping all dog whistles.