To be honest though, that's one of the reasons why SK, Taiwan, and Singapore did very well with their quarantines.
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To be honest though, that's one of the reasons why SK, Taiwan, and Singapore did very well with their quarantines.
At this point flight crew should be in full gear all the time and all passengers should be forced to isolate in Trenton or some other CFB or makeshift camp.
Even if they follow the instructions to go home, if they take a cab or other rideshare service, that's another vector of infection.
Do you know if my last day of work would be considered the date of my last paycheck or the day I was laid off?
Yes but I don't think western citizens think on that same plane. The buy in this will require will be a big hurdle as people will see this as a power grab and you know opposition parties will play that card. CPC are already voting against the current economic package.
If this is considered severance, your EI would start after those 3 weeks are up. If this is back pay, like your pay is two weeks behind your pay date and isn't money being paid as part of being laid off, then your last day at work is your EI date.
If it is severance, I'm not sure how to indicate that on your application (I don't remember if that's an option) - if you can find a way to speak to someone at Service Canada, that'd be best, but obviously that's going to be hard for a while...
Federal government would have to create a new law to suspend/overwrite PIPEDA to compel telcos to provide the info. I assume as this spreads in part because of people coming back and giving it to everyone and people deciding to keep going out, it'll have to be on the table. The equation will literally be number of deaths vs privacy.
(Personally, I feel like the privacy question is over the moment people signed up for social media and started carr so all of this is moot anyway)
Ah yeah, hopefully it'll stay that way.
Didn't non essential closures start today in Ontario as well?
Partial closures in Quebec had started earlier and ramped up to these ones. School closures started on the 14th i think?
Honestly the country should have shut down and started testing way earlier. I've been off the road ( I travel for work almost exclusively) since the 21st of January.
Feel free to present that to the public who takes their cues to a media hell bent on sensationalist headlines. This will not be an easy sell.
173 people recovered in BC from today's update. Excellent news.
Also got linked to a story of a 30 year old who got infected and had a tough time in Toronto Life. Interesting to read his account of having the virus, which developed into pneumonia.
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Also got linked to a story of a 30 year old who got infected and had a tough time in Toronto Life. Interesting to read his account of having the virus, which developed into pneumonia.
“I'm 30 years old and I’m struggling to breathe”: A Torontonian with Covid-19 tells his story
“I’m having coughing fits so violent that I have to take two-hour naps to recover from them”
torontolife.com
If we start seeing Italy-style images in downtown Toronto hospitals? I think everything's on the table.
We're not testing anyone who is coming into the country still, and there's still no real penalty for people who choose not to self-isolate anyway, so this is going to get worse.
Everything is on the table, even martial law. But I say again. Try persuading the public to allow the government track them via cell phone. This is even something that will be divided along party lines as I've shown before that people who take this virus seriously is divided along party support. Even NDP supporters don't think this is as serious as Liberal supporters. This has politicization written all over it. But again, feel free to convince the masses when the government just walked back clause 2.
I think there's a difference between unlimited powers with no checks and balances and a temporary suspension of PIPEDA, but admittedly I gave up on privacy 15 years ago when I got my Facebook account so maybe I don't care as much about privacy as the average person.
But people on social media are already being vigilantes by taking photos of gatherings and calling the cops. As this gets worse, I expect public sentiment to flip fairly quickly.
Clause 2 was a temporary suspension of conventional financial oversight. How is that argument different from a "temporary suspension" of privacy laws. Again, will you guarantee the NDP and CPC won't oppose this policy move? How will the press react? Political buy in is a lot harder than you think considering that the average person does not know the machinery of their privacy rights.
Yes, last day of class was the 12th. Quebec is also further along the curve that the rest of Canada because our spring break is earlier(late Feb/early March).
56% of Quebec jobs are in something considered essential.
You set up a clear governance structure. Even Michael Geist, digital/privacy wonk, is pitching a solution because this is becoming an actual possibility.
How Canada Should Ensure Cellphone Tracking to Counter the Spread of Coronavirus Does Not Become the New Normal - Michael Geist
With experts warning that the Coronavirus pandemic may last well into next year, the urgency of limiting the spread of the virus is sure to increase. Cellphone and social media data will increasingly be viewed as a valuable sources of information for public health authorities, as they seek to...
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These are the basic steps for governance that you can put in place, and then you message it properly - whether by doubling down on the "duty" language or maybe that won't even be necessary if big cities like Toronto and Vancouver become overwhelmed.
I think that story about the woman from Spain being able to board the plane with symptoms and potentially infect an entire plane has spooked me enough to see that this is going to get much worse before it gets better.
You set up a clear governance structure. Even Michael Geist, digital/privacy wonk, is pitching a solution because this is becoming an actual possibility.
How Canada Should Ensure Cellphone Tracking to Counter the Spread of Coronavirus Does Not Become the New Normal - Michael Geist
With experts warning that the Coronavirus pandemic may last well into next year, the urgency of limiting the spread of the virus is sure to increase. Cellphone and social media data will increasingly be viewed as a valuable sources of information for public health authorities, as they seek to...
So no then?
Some people will be, I am too. But others won't.
The CPC are already holding up the 82 billion dollar package. Opposition parties will be chomping at the bit to label the Liberals as a power grabbing party. And the Press will oblige with that narrative.
Once this mask shortage is over, if it ever is, I'd love to see everyone wearing masks in public in conjunction with temperature monitoring in public places and cell phone monitoring. We need to look at countries that are managing this crisis without completely shutting down (Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, etc.) and learn from them. Gonna need to increase the number of tests if we transition to this sort of thing, though...
I assume this hypothetical bill passes with a majority if not unanimous consent so it doesn't matter?
Like I said, if we start seeing hospitals with people lying in the hallways because there aren't enough beds, even if you are just thinking politically and don't care about human life, inaction is going to be career suicide.
You assume? the Conservatives are holding up an 82 billion dollar aid package RIGHT NOW!
I feel like that's incompetence rather than malicious or purposeful intent though.
Wonder if and when BC advance to the "essential services only" phase. My office is barely hanging on with everybody working from home and a support team of like 6 in the office but if they can't go in anymore were probably getting laid off.
Thank you for the help. It has been hard getting in contact with someone at Service Canada and it's only going to get harder from now on.
The things still considered "essential" by Doug Ford's government is huge, and I don't see it, as is, having the impact he claims.
How does that bill look in Ottawa? both sides unwilling to back down still?
Seriously? it hasn't changed since I last watched the National? God tomorrows news cycle is going to be brutal finger pointing all around.
Yeah, it's tough because I'm also sure the service centers are packed too and not really the best place to go. Hopefully you can get some definitive answers.
Just going off the news, it really sounds like things are being dug along political lines.
- BQ says they are going to vote on the bill as is.
- BQ is saying that despite some of the NDP's questions/pushes to increase the scope of the programs, behind closed doors they too are signaling that they are willing to vote on the bill as-is
- Nothing about the greens, but the have one member who on Twitter was extremely eagre to sign the bill
- CPC is the sole party that is refusing to get on board
It seems that this is all on the cons. They can't really start pointing back if the other four parties point to them unanimously.
Government gets unanimous consent to quickly pass legislation for COVID-19 help | CityNews Toronto
The government received unanimous consent to quickly pass emergency legislation to free up $82 billion to help Canadians weather the COVID-19 crisis. After a day of tense negotiations, MPs began debating the bill in the wee hours of morning, with a vote planned within a couple of hours. The...
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I'm waiting to hear from Scott Reid to see just how dead our democracy is, honestly, as it seems something passed. Hopefully it's not going to hold this roll out any longer, unless the Senate starts playing games...
So my office was one of the ones closed with the Ontario shutdown. Majority of the employees are now working from home but I can't as I don't have a lan line so I was going on EI. Now I get an email from them saying after some legal discussions they has been granted permission to stay open and I can come back to work tomorrow...wtf I honestly don't feel safe going in but I need the money.
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Ford's List is making more places reopen than shutdown. It's a mess.
It's three questions that basically ask if you are sick and you can just lie. They're not checking temperatures or anything.
That is because the Liberals tried to take parliament out of the equation when deciding whether to raise or decrease taxes.....until December 2021. It was a clear power grab from a minority government and may have been unconstitutional. That is why they amended it and got the NDP and BQ on board.
We are facing this country's biggest crisis since the second world war. If the CPC would try to block legitimate emergency measures like GPS tracking then who cares.
About 100 new cases in Ontario in AM numbers.
Up from the 85 yesterday. Stay home for fuck sakes. GTA seems to be hardest hit but too many cases have no info now.
Up from the 85 yesterday. Stay home for fuck sakes. GTA seems to be hardest hit but too many cases have no info now.
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Premier makes list of places that can stay open, about the only thing not listed: schools. Premier wonders why numbers not dropping
Pathetic. The Federal government response on this is so damn shit. It's like they are just praying that everything will be gone in a few weeks.