How can the Bloc be so high in Quebec? I honestly thought they were dead.
Jesus what's going on with the Green Party? Where was all this in the previous years?
I kinda want to vote Green this time around, because climate change is the issue of our generation and should be dealt with as fast as possible, but I'm wondering if the Greens are still anti-OGM? I can't really support a party that is anti-science if that's the case.
Not really. The article itself is pointing out a lot of doublespeak on this.Green Party won't ban members from trying to reopen abortion debate, says May
Well they're more honest than Scheer at least.
"It is, and always has been, the Green Party of Canada's policy that all women must have timely access to safe, legal abortions," said Green Party Press Secretary Rosie Emery.
"Although the leader does not have the power to whip votes, all Green Party members of Parliament must endorse the Green Party's values, including a firm support of a woman's right to choose. There is zero chance an elected representative of our party will ever reopen the abortion debate."
Emery said that during the candidate vetting process, the Green Party ensures that all candidates "wholeheartedly agree that the abortion debate is closed in Canada."
"Any who disagree are not allowed to run," said Emery.
No, party whips are a position that answer to the party caucus, not the leader alone, and the leader usually doesn't involve themselves in that practice as a matter of keeping their hands clean. "The leader made me do it" would otherwise be a headline every other day in the news.'I don't have the power as leader of the Green Party to whip votes' - Elizabeth May
Uh...isn't that your whole fucking job?
Gross.
Those Sk/Mn numbers. Conservative meltdown and looking like the colours of fall.
Now there is only one tower on the prairies instead of two.
How can the Bloc be so high in Quebec? I honestly thought they were dead.
Greens didn't take out the NDP, they're just dancing on the shambling mass that's left of it.The Party representing democratic socialism in Canada gets taken out by a bunch of environmentally-conscious conservatives.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
The Party representing democratic socialism in Canada gets taken out by a bunch of environmentally-conscious conservatives.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Greens didn't take out the NDP, they're just dancing on the shambling mass that's left of it.
The NDP did this to themselves with poor leadership choices following the death of Jack Layton, no one else gets to claim responsibility for that.
It was all mapped out to happen this way after centrism introduced to the NDP by (or at least popularized by) Roy Romanow proved to be politically advantageous for them. Those two camps would never be able to settle their hash without casualty, this just happened to be the worst case scenario.Who knew that making deals with Harper and appointing a centrist leader like Mulcair would be a bad idea?
When do we get the riding-by-riding polling or has that already been mapped out and glossed over in this thread?
We need to hash out the select ridings where NDP/Green votes can be excused as not endorsing a Scheer government and mass sell-off of Canadian resources to foreign interests amongst other assorted grifting priorities.
Polls of ridings are rarely done unless it's a battle ground riding. Election night is typically the poll that produces the comprehensive result.
The most recent poll of a specific riding are these.
These are unique for their own reasons.
When do we get the riding-by-riding polling or has that already been mapped out and glossed over in this thread?
We need to hash out the select ridings where NDP/Green votes can be excused as not endorsing a Scheer government and mass sell-off of Canadian resources to foreign interests amongst other assorted grifting priorities.
Greens didn't take out the NDP, they're just dancing on the shambling mass that's left of it.
The NDP did this to themselves with poor leadership choices following the death of Jack Layton, no one else gets to claim responsibility for that.
The NDP under Singh has moved further left than Layton's centrist kitchen table populism with progressive promises like a Wealth Tax and drug decriminalization (safe supply) so I'm pretty good with the direction they're at. *shrugs*
It may well be that it takes a while for folks to get the feel for Singh.
Layton was mocked as a used car salesman type salesman when he first appeared as leader...
He's been on the "campaign trail" since the day he won the leadership and had nothing to do except that because he wasn't an MP and did jack shit.At the moment I don't think the NDP should be in any rush to bail on Singh. It would only make sense if he's like a complete disaster on the campaign trail. Expectations are already rock bottom low so he'd have to be pretty damn bad.
Wasn't that a big complaint from maritime NDP members, that he hadn't even gone out there to helpHe's been on the "campaign trail" since the day he won the leadership and had nothing to do except that because he wasn't an MP and did jack shit.
Wasn't that a big complaint from maritime NDP members, that he hadn't even gone out there to help
If that's actually true that's kind of wild.Wasn't that a big complaint from maritime NDP members, that he hadn't even gone out there to help
They're pretty much dead.How can the Bloc be so high in Quebec? I honestly thought they were dead.
I don't think the Bloc is ever going to be dead, because there's always going to be a core separatist vote that won't be swayed to join other parties. How many seats they get will wax and wane depending on support for other parties (and the NDP's decline in Quebec definitely helped the BQ).How can the Bloc be so high in Quebec? I honestly thought they were dead.
I don't think the Bloc is ever going to be dead, because there's always going to be a core separatist vote that won't be swayed to join other parties. How many seats they get will wax and wane depending on support for other parties (and the NDP's decline in Quebec definitely helped the BQ).
The BQ will die permanently when boomers and Gen X do. There's almost no appetite for separatism among younger generations to keep the party going long term and that's their defining characteristic. Heck, it barely hangs on with the generations it used to appeal to. From my vantage point, Quebec nationalism/separatism seems to be mostly in provincial political platforms as an empty gesture, knowing full well it will never happen, just to not drive away boomer voters who won't let the dream die.I don't think the Bloc is ever going to be dead, because there's always going to be a core separatist vote that won't be swayed to join other parties. How many seats they get will wax and wane depending on support for other parties (and the NDP's decline in Quebec definitely helped the BQ).
In its latest release, Innovative Research Group divided the country into 14 riding clusters and provided voting intentions for each of them, based on its three summer polls, which totaled approximately 5,700 decided respondents (7,555 respondents total). That's roughly 17 decided respondents per riding. Therefore, for most clusters, these results have sample sizes roughly on par or smaller than riding polls.
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Main takeaways:
- The NDP is doing better than expected in LIB/CON races, and worse than expected where it actually counts for them. It's so bad that they could be at 7 seats rather than the current projection of 17.
- Crucial LIB/CON areas are near where the model sees them.
- LIBs and CONs are not winning by as much as expected in their respective strongholds - sign of discontent about both Trudeau and Scheer?
- There is no evidence that GRN support is more efficient than the model projects.
Let's be real outside of a few members the ndp are social Democrats. I wish they were proper demsocs but here we areThe Party representing democratic socialism in Canada gets taken out by a bunch of environmentally-conscious conservatives.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
They need to make their base feel afraid and persecuted.IIRC Harper gov had a terrorist tip line to call too
Right wing are snitches