Canadian Election 2019 |OT| This Election News Is Making Me Green With Scheer Disgust
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Canadian Election 2019 |OT| One Long Year of Scheer Stupidity [Update: Liberal Minority Government]
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Canadian Election 2019 |OT| The Green Party: A Script off the Old Bloq
Environmental concerns too often take a back seat to the ideological. It might be part of the problem.
Maybe it isn't only the Cons that are keeping environmental policies from gaining prominence.
For some it appears there can only be enviromentalism if it fits their ideology.
Maybe it isn't only the Cons that are keeping environmental policies from gaining prominence.
For some it appears there can only be enviromentalism if it fits their ideology.
In more "pandering to sovereignists voters" news: Scheer's Conservatives target Bloc Québécois votes to make gains in Quebec
Hey. Stop looking over there. Look over here.
Remember, the reason we can't have a proper Healthcare system with Dental, Pharmacare, Ambulance, Optical, Mental and more is because we can't afford it. I mean, just look at our deficit! Somebody has to do something about that first. And don't even think about Free Post-Secondary Education or UBI. We. Can't. Afford. It.
We can never afford any new programs. Taxing the 1% never works and even if it did, Canadians are taxed to the brim and the 1% are already shouldering the entierty of the burden. The money always has to come from somewhere, stop lying to Canadians and tell us how much are you going to raise Middle Class Taxes in order to afford your socialist programs.
Lol. I do hope the pbo release makes it into the debate Thursday.
It's good that he leaned into social programs.
May could do something similar except with the environment instead. She'll have no problem discussing the hypothetical I imagine.
Scheer will give trickle piss.
This will be the only time I use a South Park clip.
Bryan Adams has always been scummy so this isn't surprising.
The Rhinoceros Party.
I haven't heard that name in a loooong time.
Damn. Just 1% tax on it can generate this much revenue for the government. It's too bad it won't happen.
The problem with a 1% wealth tax is that it can easily be evaded as has been covered previously. The Liberals taxed the upper income levels by 2% (IIRC) but no one cared as there are so many tax shelters the money was just re-profiled as something else. You'd have to close a lot of doors to make a wealth tax effective.
Mainly because their money is stashed outside the country in tax havens or in complex organizations that spread the money around the globe.
Not all of them were in all the way though. My point was more that it was one of their few prestige candidate they are running there because they have a chance to win hence why many of them are running that kind of candidate.
Considering what Réjean Hébert did as health minister under Marois it will be interesting to see what will happen on social media between the different levels of "woke" individuals.
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The wording in the tweet is a bit confusing, it's actually Jim Valance(who co-wrote some of Bryan Adams' songs) who's writing these songs for the Cons, Bryan Adams has nothing to do with this.
9/11
Such a eerie day to announce an election. It's been awhile.
Maybe the Libs are trying to de-stigmatize the day. The attempts to de-stigmatize Fri. 13th have been so successful.
Thought they'd launch the Saturday or Sunday to allow people to really generate some fanfare without feeling a little awkward over doing it on Wednesday over the memorial next door and for the people in Canada that lost people in the event.
Such a eerie day to announce an election. It's been awhile.
Maybe the Libs are trying to de-stigmatize the day. The attempts to de-stigmatize Fri. 13th have been so successful.
Thought they'd launch the Saturday or Sunday to allow people to really generate some fanfare without feeling a little awkward over doing it on Wednesday over the memorial next door and for the people in Canada that lost people in the event.
It has nothing to do with 9/11 and everything to do with having the legally-mandated minimum campaign length.
I didn't even remember that was today until this post mentioned it.
It's been so long since now, 18 years, that yes, it does feel like a normal day.
of course there is that minimum, but they had a few more days to call the election. I wasn't saying it was only about 9/11.
The date falling on 9/11 had to have been discussed.
Obviously, they felt it wasn't important enough to wait until the weekend to avoid the day.
There will be people voting in this election that weren't even born when 9/11 happened. If you want to maintain the significance you should pick up the fight to have it declared a national holiday or accept that in the grand scheme of things it's not actually important enough to Canada to avoid scheduling conflicts with the date eternally.
I'm not for making Fri 13th a national holiday either. What I'm saying is it wasn't a great choice and that it dampens the announcement a bit for those who still memorialize and know people that died or suffered from the event.
The big green tent slogan getting the nod.
I hope it might indicate a growing desire for voters to get past left/right tribalism, too.
That's bull. The greens and their slogan are trash. Regardless of what you think, people lean left or right on topics. Specially when it comes to social issues, a side has to be picked and no be wishy washy on it. That's the problem here, the greens not giving a shit what their candidates want to bring up makes them the wrong choice
It seems that candidates having the right to speak out makes things more transparent and easier to discuss as subjects are less taboo. Vetting and selection gives the general direction of the party.
Not sure if it's true but I read this is a bit more free and like how many European parties run things. It's Canadians that are uncomfortable with politicians having the ability to speak out.
This was an interesting bit from that article
Not all topics fall to one side or the other.
14% of NDP would go Conservative. 3 times as many as the greens. Who's making the wrong choice?
The tribal way to interpret it.
It's about you you you you you.
The NDP/Con slogan
Not sure if it's true but I read this is a bit more free and like how many European parties run things. It's Canadians that are uncomfortable with politicians having the ability to speak out.
This was an interesting bit from that article
Not all topics fall to one side or the other.
14% of NDP would go Conservative. 3 times as many as the greens. Who's making the wrong choice?
The tribal way to interpret it.
It's about you you you you you.
The NDP/Con slogan
Everything is the same and nothing matters. All ideas are equally valid!
I mean, maybe you'd have a point if the examples that came up this week weren't abortion and separatism.
I think you'll find that most of us aren't against the concept of candidates having differing opinions than their leaders in general, and being able to speak about that, but there are certain issues that are important to us that the party must be in solidarity about.
We can't live in denial of the reality of the Canadian political landscape either.
There's the fight to change minds and the fight to work with what's there, who voters are, to make thing better.
Greens aren't going to give into abortion debate, they aren't going to separate Canada or allow racism or sexism.
They'll just work on environment policy with those that have these positions as long as they don't interfere with saving the environment. That's my read.
It's come to that point where environmental people will work with whoever to get things done since Canada's not meeting targets with any other party.
There's the fight to change minds and the fight to work with what's there, who voters are, to make thing better.
Greens aren't going to give into abortion debate, they aren't going to separate Canada or allow racism or sexism.
They'll just work on environment policy with those that have these positions as long as they don't interfere with saving the environment. That's my read.
It's come to that point where environmental people will work with whoever to get things done since Canada's not meeting targets with any other party.
I wonder how the Cons would be doing if they elected someone like Michael Chong. Dude seems infinitely better than Scheer
I'd have considered voting for someone like Chong.
But there's too many social conservatives and libertarians in the party given that Scheer and Bernier were the 2 finalists.
Regardless of who the leader is, that's the party.
It's crazy how to political landscape has changed in Quebec. I remember about 20 years ago, when I could vote for the first time, there wasn't much discussions about left and right. Either you voted federalist, or separatist. The left and right debate – while still somewhat present – was really on the back burner compared to the federalist/separatist dichotomy.
Now it's the opposite. Everybody talks about the left or the right, and very little in term of federalism or separatism. It still pops up once in a while, of course, and some federal/provincial parties are still clearly separatist, but it has taken WAY less importance than 20 years ago.
Now it's the opposite. Everybody talks about the left or the right, and very little in term of federalism or separatism. It still pops up once in a while, of course, and some federal/provincial parties are still clearly separatist, but it has taken WAY less importance than 20 years ago.
Listening to the CBC Radio broadcasting the live election launch speeches and subsequent Q/A's from Trudeau and Singh.
Both sounding pretty good to me and both candidates of course dodging a few questions as expected and pivoting to what they want to talk about.
The PM dodging questions about SNC Lavalin, the environment and Quebec's bill 21 and spinning back to the strength of the economy. Really interesting to me to hear almost every Quebec reporter grilling the PM about why the Feds aren't getting involved in Bill 21 and won't defend charter rights. I didn't realize how much that's lingering as an issue in QC. Obvious Trudeau doesn't believe in Bill 21, but yeah his answer for why he's sitting out the fight is pretty weak.
Singh dodging his own questions. The first question about the NDP's weakness in the polls was completely unaddressed lmao. The big thing Singh kept pivoting to was that both the Conservatives and Liberals are one in the same in helping out their buddies in the corporate sector. He drew parallels to this to explain why Canada didn't have pharmacare. This sort of lines are classic NDP, (Liberal, Tory same old story) but with the NDP's centrist drift in the last few years under Layton and Mulcair we hadn't heard it expressed so strongly. It's clear it's going to once again be the core theme under Singh.
Speaking in London Singh was asked by a local reporter about cancelling arms deals with Saudi Arabia which would affect local workers, and he explained that he would cancel these deals but jobs would be protected since there's plenty of other work to build supplies for Canada.
Of course now the CBC talking heads are trashing Singh saying he was all over the place in contrast with the 'skillful' PM. Good grief the media bias is so obvious and incredible.
Both sounding pretty good to me and both candidates of course dodging a few questions as expected and pivoting to what they want to talk about.
The PM dodging questions about SNC Lavalin, the environment and Quebec's bill 21 and spinning back to the strength of the economy. Really interesting to me to hear almost every Quebec reporter grilling the PM about why the Feds aren't getting involved in Bill 21 and won't defend charter rights. I didn't realize how much that's lingering as an issue in QC. Obvious Trudeau doesn't believe in Bill 21, but yeah his answer for why he's sitting out the fight is pretty weak.
Singh dodging his own questions. The first question about the NDP's weakness in the polls was completely unaddressed lmao. The big thing Singh kept pivoting to was that both the Conservatives and Liberals are one in the same in helping out their buddies in the corporate sector. He drew parallels to this to explain why Canada didn't have pharmacare. This sort of lines are classic NDP, (Liberal, Tory same old story) but with the NDP's centrist drift in the last few years under Layton and Mulcair we hadn't heard it expressed so strongly. It's clear it's going to once again be the core theme under Singh.
Speaking in London Singh was asked by a local reporter about cancelling arms deals with Saudi Arabia which would affect local workers, and he explained that he would cancel these deals but jobs would be protected since there's plenty of other work to build supplies for Canada.
Of course now the CBC talking heads are trashing Singh saying he was all over the place in contrast with the 'skillful' PM. Good grief the media bias is so obvious and incredible.
Man that's actually kind of a bummer
Edit: Oh it's not actually Bryan Adams... lol ok then nevermind.
Again, bullshit. If they are going to allow their members to bring up anything they want and not follow a defined party policy, you can't go and claim that "aren't going to give into" important social issues.
Yeah.
If you want to be taken seriously than take a serious stand on something, especially key progressive issues like abortion and racism.
Can't call yourself a progressive party if you're unwilling to make a stand on those.
Even if you don't believe in the climate crisis...we're going to save you too!
paraphrase of May but kick ass...
paraphrase of May but kick ass...
Glad she talked about how important Canadian leadership is in environment policy for the world. Not that Canada's so special or anything. just that we should make it work. They can point to us and go..oh ok..we can do that better.
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