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Another fun one in primary school my friends and i played hentai games (Newgrounds yes) together on the school computers lol. A teacher even found out and we had to explain ourselves to the school head. Good times.

Yes one of them was that link x midna one lol.
My 7th grade Spanish teacher also ran a pc gaming store on the side and frequently had pc games in her class. So one day, for whatever reason, we had down time and were free to do whatever we wanted for a class period, so i installed alone in the dark on her mac in the class room. The mac was password protected, but the teacher hunt and pecked out her password with one finger, which turned out to be her first name, so i saw it and figured it out.

Cue the next day where the principal was calling me and my friends in to explain how we "hacked" the system and how it was a serious criminal law. The principal called my dad in for a parent teacher meeting to discuss my punishment, but my dad was tech savvy and a nerd and wound up taking my side on the argument, calling their security system trash and saying that in certain circles what i had done would have been applauded for pointing out their security risks.

In the end, i got no punishment at all, haha.
 
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That sounds like something I would do. Thank god the boxes say "Mature" or else I wouldve done this.
This actually makes me wonder if that's a geniune reason the ESRB uses the word 'mature'. It's clever if so. Although I'm guessing use of the rating pre-dates a lot of the online ludological filth that certain netizens have created.
 
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This actually makes me wonder if that's a geniune reason the ESRB uses the word 'mature'. It's clever if so. Although I'm guessing use of the rating pre-dates a lot of the online ludological filth that certain netizens have created.
probably not because there was an actual adults only classification at one time.
 
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Since we're talking about the first porn we saw. Mine was when I was trying to type in cheatplanet to look at some codes and I must have accidentally typed in chickplanet. I looked up from the keyboard and just about had a heart attack. I quickly turned off my parents using the power button.
 
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Only just noticed the tag

"Dreamcast Porno Party" rolls off the tongue. It sounds so natural. It sounds like the title for an avant garde indie album that belongs in a plaid-shirt-wearing tree-averse lumberjack's music collection
 
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Since we're talking about the first porn we saw. Mine was when I was trying to type in cheatplanet to look at some codes and I must have accidentally typed in chickplanet. I looked up from the keyboard and just about had a heart attack. I quickly turned off my parents using the power button.
Y-Your parents have a power button?
 
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Since we're talking about the first porn we saw. Mine was when I was trying to type in cheatplanet to look at some codes and I must have accidentally typed in chickplanet. I looked up from the keyboard and just about had a heart attack. I quickly turned off my parents using the power button.
This reminds me of a time when I was developing a user-guide for employees and decided to track down logos for all the popular email providers. I told work colleagues at lunch that if they google image searched "Hotmail" it would bring up naked men, and I reasoned trolls must be uploading pictures and tagging them incorrectly on purpose. Someone immediately tried it and verified that wasn't true. Turns out I actually typed "Hotmale" and it was right there in my history. Of course, this caused instant scrutiny of everyone's google search histories. One of my colleagues had loads of mad things and random thoughts posed as questions to Google, but the ones the office focused on most were things like "Do black men really have bigger penises" and "Scrotum thesaurus".

https://myactivity.google.com for anyone who wants to venture in to the truth of their own soul
 
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When I got my dreamcast, we ran a 56k phone line across the house and into my room, giving me FINALLY porno in a room where I could lock the door.

The first weekend I had my DC, I legitimately hosted a porno party with some friends who spent the night. It was... awkward.

But damn we abused the shit out of the zoom button in the browser.
This reminds me of how during one of my birthday parties I was showing my friends this superhero text rpg on my Wii browser, and a friend joked only I'd spend a night on my console to read.

Without responding, I then looked up anime porn, and rapidly went through images and videos as some laughed, some sat shocked, and some were aroused. My friend who dissed me simply whispered "this is Why I love you" in response.
 
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it still hurts me to this day that I couldn't get the dreamcast online working, I tried so many different guides followed many instructions but nope
 
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it still hurts me to this day that I couldn't get the dreamcast online working, I tried so many different guides followed many instructions but nope
It wasn't much different than setting up the internet in windows 98 at the time, tbh.

Except that the DC drive would have to spin up for every single UI graphic that loaded on the webbrowser, every single page lol.
 
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I hosted a piracy party a few years later with a bunch of big name ftp operators coming into town. This wasnt at my house, it was at a pc users club i belonged to. We hooked the dc up to a projector via vga and played games like street fighter 3 3rd strike all night long.
I like the 3rd Strike element of this party, but a literal piracy party is perhaps one of the scummiest and grossest things I've ever imagined. "Hey everybody, come over and celebrate the fact that we're thieves by playing stolen games together!" I bet some real characters showed up to that....event.

You have a sordid past man. I can't judge though; I guess we all have pretty sordid pasts in retrospect.
 
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I like the 3rd Strike element of this party, but a literal piracy party is perhaps one of the scummiest and grossest things I've ever imagined. "Hey everybody, come over and celebrate the fact that we're thieves by playing stolen games together!" I bet some real characters showed up to that....event.

You misinterpreted. These were piracy groups. As in, we were cracking dreamcast games. One of the biggest members of Echelon showed up.
 
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Krejlooc, just wanted to let you know that this thread is awesome.

Not surprised at the piracy party, piracy was really all the rage back then.
Remember a friend who's father was "homebrewing" ps1s at the time and made people pay for that so that he could get a new cd writer so that we could all get free games with it.
Never actually benefitted from it as I was a n64 guy myself.
Remember that Metal Gear was the game that stumped people for the copy protection (not for long though).
Ah, we were young and stupid back then.
 
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When I got my dreamcast, we ran a 56k phone line across the house and into my room, giving me FINALLY porno in a room where I could lock the door.

The first weekend I had my DC, I legitimately hosted a porno party with some friends who spent the night. It was... awkward.

But damn we abused the shit out of the zoom button in the browser.
Congratulations. You've gone from being know for being in a Woodsie video for like 10 seconds to this. I applaud you sir.
 
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When I got my dreamcast, we ran a 56k phone line across the house and into my room, giving me FINALLY porno in a room where I could lock the door.

The first weekend I had my DC, I legitimately hosted a porno party with some friends who spent the night. It was... awkward.

But damn we abused the shit out of the zoom button in the browser.
You guys will never know the feeling of getting a diskmag filled to the brim with porn pictures in glorious 16 colors where you couldn't see shit on your ST or Amiga

Those were the days
 
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Posting on this legendary thread also to say thank you for all the nostalgia and memories i totally forgot those were the times!

This thread is legit.
 
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Oh, well I suppose that's different then. I have no idea who or what Echelon is.
Echelon is the group that Sega chose to leak the Sega Genesis emulator for the Dreamcast to:

to clarify, Sega Dreamcast games use GD-Roms that are not able to be read on a normal computer. However, using a network adapter and a specially built program, you can use your Dreamcast as a GD-ROM drive for a networked PC, which will let you browse the contents of a disc. In February of 2001, Sega released the Sega Genesis Smash Pack on the Dreamcast, which was a pack of emulated Genesis games on a custom built Sega emulator for the Dreamcast. Well, if you browse the contents of the disc, you will find a file called Echelon.txt. Open the file and...

To whomever releases this pack..

Let me give you a few bits of info:

- I emulate a U.S. Genesis, including territory lock-out.
- ".sga" files are standard Genesis/Megadrive ".bin" files renamed.
- The emulator is looking for some parameters to be passed via Ginsu.
If you don't know what that is, you'll figure it out:

MDE_US.BIN ALTBEAST.SGA MODE2 SKIP0 SOUND0

MODE0 = standard, fastest video mode settings
MODE1 = slower, supports some extra features
MODE2 = slowest, includes window layers (used by some games)
MODE4 = same as MODE0 with background skewing

SKIP0 = no sprite skipping until maximum reached
SKIP1 = moderate sprite skipping, used to prevent major slowdown
SKIP2 = maximum sprites skipped

SOUND0 = standard sound emulation
SOUND1 = sound tempo increased

And don't forget to pay your respects to Uncle Sonic.
Sony just doesn't get it.

- Gary
Echelon was a warez group that, later in life, focued mainly on the Dreamcast and Playstation 2. Like most piracy groups, their efforts are mainly known for cracking and releasing games online, but deeper in the scene they were an invaluable resource for figuring out how the Dreamcast worked, which is a big reason I am still able to do Dreamcast Programming today. Echelon, for example, was integral in cracking the binary scrambling routine that Dreamcast games go through which makes them bootable -- without the scrambling algorithm being reverse engineered, no homebrew for the DC would ever exist.

Anywho, Echelon released the Emulator a week later, stripped from the smash pack, with a loader that would let users load any Genesis rom on the DC. Echelon's release notes for the crack:

Miscellaneous Notes:

- Yes, this pack is based off an emulator that Sega coded.

- The emulator requires a lot of tweaking to get games that are not
included on this pack to run correctly.

- If we have time for it, we will probably do this tweaking over
the next few days and release a menu system to launch your own
ROM's and burn them to a CD.

- For all of those wondering, the DC console that comes with this
pack (when you buy it!) DOES play MIL CD's / copies.

- You will all probably be wondering how to exit out of a game once
you start it, simply press A+B+X+Y simultaneously, then hit Start
to return back to the menu system.

- Regards to Uncle Sonic for his help, you know for what!
 
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Echelon is the group that Sega chose to leak the Sega Genesis emulator for the Dreamcast to:

to clarify, Sega Dreamcast games use GD-Roms that are not able to be read on a normal computer. However, using a network adapter and a specially built program, you can use your Dreamcast as a GD-ROM drive for a networked PC, which will let you browse the contents of a disc. In February of 2001, Sega released the Sega Genesis Smash Pack on the Dreamcast, which was a pack of emulated Genesis games on a custom built Sega emulator for the Dreamcast. Well, if you browse the contents of the disc, you will find a file called Echelon.txt. Open the file and...



Echelon was a warez group that, later in life, focued mainly on the Dreamcast and Playstation 2. Like most piracy groups, their efforts are mainly known for cracking and releasing games online, but deeper in the scene they were an invaluable resource for figuring out how the Dreamcast worked, which is a big reason I am still able to do Dreamcast Programming today. Echelon, for example, was integral in cracking the binary scrambling routine that Dreamcast games go through which makes them bootable -- without the scrambling algorithm being reverse engineered, no homebrew for the DC would ever exist.

Anywho, Echelon released the Emulator a week later, stripped from the smash pack, with a loader that would let users load any Genesis rom on the DC. Echelon's release notes for the crack:
Huh, that's actually fascinating. Talented group of guys then, thanks for that little history lesson.
 
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Small YouTuber who made a video about the steam controller and referenced something you said about it on the old site.

Krejlooc wasn't know for the whole old Sonic Xtreme scene or emulation scene something?
and what's a woodsie?
Well, that's what I first remember about Krejlooc. I didn't know anything about their emulation experience.
 
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Huh, that's actually fascinating. Talented group of guys then, thanks for that little history lesson.
Their crowning achievement was the Skies of Arcadia release. Yes yes, piracy is terrible, but the stuff they did with that release was honestly amazing. See, Skies of Arcadia uses 2 GD-ROMs to their capacity. A GD-ROM is actually 1 gigabyte big, and bigger than the largest CD-ROMs (800-900 Megabytes). This meant that, essentially, skies of Arcadia was uncrackable. But Echelon did it over the course of a year, by reverse engineering the way the game loads data from the GD-ROM drive, disassembly the binary for the game, and locating the exact routines that made this possible. They then patched these regions with a custom decompression routine, and figured out how to compress all the data on the disc in this custom compression scheme. The Routine they created was just fast enough to work with the game, which infamously loaded battles mid-field (you could hear the dreamcast drive spin up when this would happen). As such, they managed to release the game on 2 700 MB CD-Rs when the real game was 2 GB big.

Now, releasing the game is cool and shit, but what was way cooler was finding out how the game itself worked, which Echelon outlined in release notes. Not only did they reverse engineer this shit, they catelogged it, so that home brew authors could gain an understanding of how a commercial game's memory management systems worked. SoA used a free list of objects in a double-linked list to dynamically load objects in and out of memory as needed. It was really cool shit. Plus their project also resulted in a type of compression that was quick and could be used in homebrew DC games.

Echelon was a cool group, albeit very morally grey. In any case, after communicating with these dudes for a year online, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to meet these guys IRL. Like I said, we mainly played SF3 all night. But damn they were cool.
 

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Echelon had some cool tunes in their cracktros too. Also, some demo scene effects type stuff in others.

SOA's was rather plain (possibly because they barely managed to get the game to fit) but catchy music.
There were versions of games like Shenmue that removed content (like no voice acting for random NPCs) but SOA was whole on CD!
 
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Echelon had catchy tunes in their cracktros too. Also some demo scene type stuff in others.

SOA's was rather plain but catch music.
That's because Echelon is also an historic demoscene group.

It's all way more complicated than just theft, really. These guys have their hands in a lot of the history of electronic gaming in lots of different parts.
 
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So that white page is gone when I go back with my dreamcast, getting the same old banned error from first post.
 
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It wasn't much different than setting up the internet in windows 98 at the time, tbh.

Except that the DC drive would have to spin up for every single UI graphic that loaded on the webbrowser, every single page lol.
trust me I spend many hours trying and reading different guides, configuration looked correct, but for some reason it would always fail to connect (could even be a defective modem in the end...), well, my DC was imported and that's why it had the modem, the official DC over here (Brazil) came without a modem, and I had a very small local ISP, so something didn't work, oh well, probably 2018 me could figure it out, but 2000 me didn't lol
 
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Echelon had some cool tunes in their cracktros too. Also, some demo scene effects type stuff in others.

SOA's was rather plain (possibly because they barely managed to get the game to fit) but catchy music.
There were versions of games like Shenmue that removed content (like no voice acting for random NPCs) but SOA was whole on CD!
I remember this splash page very well. My dad used to use discjuggler to burn gdroms for me when I was in grade school.

He would download the games via usenet in like 50+ part RARs. I learned a lot about PCs during those times.

Edit: to keep up with the theme of the thread, using usenet helped me find lots of porn. Luckily we had broadband installed in 1999.
 
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This was a great read and trip. Made me bust out my dc and play my heavily modding version of thps2. Had to add some grease to the lazer motor though. lol thing was loud as hell!
 
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This was a great read and trip. Made me bust out my dc and play my heavily modding version of thps2. Had to add some grease to the lazer motor though. lol thing was loud as hell!
the motor was always loud, even when new.
 
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Really appreciate Echelon's work on Dreamcast. I went through some terrible moments in the mid 2000s - It got to a point where I could not afford much beyond for years, so their stuff kept me busy. I know it's frowned upon to admit piracy like this, but a lot of their work helped me get through a very suicidal period of my life. Not to mention it really helped me fall in love with Dreamcast all over again.

I had no idea they did so much to get Skies of Arcadia running. Seems like they would be the best people to port the game to modern platforms, hah.