I'm not saying it should be done already but to not even see anything at this point is silly, not a trailer, not a teaser, not a screen, nothing.
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CAPCOM Div 1 tweet hinting at a RE announcement soon? (Update: Characters look great?)
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Extremely low expectations, that's the way to go with Capcom.
RE7 for other VR devices, new downloadable contents for RE7 or a re-release for Xbox and that's it.
RE7 for other VR devices, new downloadable contents for RE7 or a re-release for Xbox and that's it.
I'd like that, get a bit of Side A and Side B going again.
Gotcha, so they focused too much on self-insertion and as a result, he's got a severely gimped personality. Then, hopefully they inject some personality for whomever is the protagonist of RE8.
Keeping real low expectations for re2 remake. I am expecting a bad clunky tps like 4,5,6. But the last two good Capcom products were really good. MHW and RE7 was both old school capcom.
Capcom is facing a real dilemma because they don't know the target audience for Resident Evil anymore. They established too many styles for the series, each of them had their fanbase. So you will clearly piss off people again and again. The problem is, Capcom is fearing pissing people off and they would please everyone like they tried it with 6. Ironically, it became one of their best selling games of all time even long after the bad publicity was over and new Consoles were released, Resident Evil 6 continued selling.
They weren't fully happy with how Resident Evil 7 performed, the game was little behind the numbers Capcom wished for (possible that the game reached these numbers now). Announcing REmake 2 in 2015 was as hilarious as many other early announcements like Death Stranding and the Final Fantasy VII Remake, but at least, the games had showed something. There are still a few pessimistic people I know around who are thinking REmake 2 was silently cancelled (still don't see a legit reason for that though).
People thought, after they are done with Resident Evil 7, they will concentrate to marketing REmake2. Nothing happened. Then people thought, they will reveal a huge pile of content after Monster Hunter World is released. Again, nothing happened with the exception of a few cryptic Social Media teaser.
And I will go even futher: If Capcom is announcing something Resident Evil related the next months, it will not be REmake 2 material.
They weren't fully happy with how Resident Evil 7 performed, the game was little behind the numbers Capcom wished for (possible that the game reached these numbers now). Announcing REmake 2 in 2015 was as hilarious as many other early announcements like Death Stranding and the Final Fantasy VII Remake, but at least, the games had showed something. There are still a few pessimistic people I know around who are thinking REmake 2 was silently cancelled (still don't see a legit reason for that though).
People thought, after they are done with Resident Evil 7, they will concentrate to marketing REmake2. Nothing happened. Then people thought, they will reveal a huge pile of content after Monster Hunter World is released. Again, nothing happened with the exception of a few cryptic Social Media teaser.
And I will go even futher: If Capcom is announcing something Resident Evil related the next months, it will not be REmake 2 material.
They literally go out of the way just to block his face and yet gave him a personal story that felt like a journey.
It was one of the weirdest game choices I have seen in a long time.
Ehhh, REmake 2 exists because people wanted a remake of Res2 just like the remake of Res1. If they change everything and try to make something like RE4-RE6, 90% of the people will hate it.
I love action RE, but a remake of the second game like that is not something people want.
I love action RE, but a remake of the second game like that is not something people want.
Now, this much I do agree with. I'm more inclined to believe that we'll see the successor to Revelations (or something on a similar scale) before we'll see any hints of REmake2.
It'd go along with the idea that Capcom will have the next DMC game be its main chariot for this go around, while other titles of various tier scales like MM11, the next Sengoku BASARA title and another RE spin-off round out the release calendar, along with a possible major year-end update for World.
It gets tiring to face the discussion of "TPS = Action shooters/FPS = Outlast horror" over and over again, but i feel like many people would be surprised with how different approaches and in this case, other camera angles can translate into a proper survival horror title with the right amount of experimentation and feedback. It lacks a little bit of vision and context to just straight up express that these formats are limited to a very specific set of genres.
Even while noboby is contesting the effectiveness of the fixed camera angles, we never really saw a pure attempt of bringing that "SH" structure and atmospheric attention to detail with the over the shoulder perspective. And the ones which are very close to that direction nowadays (Dead Space, TEW or even some sections of RE4), were able to execute genuine tense encounters and oppressive environments using the action horror formula. A lot of fans would even call some of those examples "the best" survival horror experiences in today's standards, despite its differences and perspectives.
Resident Evil 4 even has the perfect blueprint for a third person version of the classic gameplay formula. With the right foucus and amount of care (and a few tweaks/restrictions here and there), it could be the perfect way to embrace what RE2 was in a more interactive and approachable way. The RE team has proven recently that they are capable and talented enough to make it work with FP in 7, while the RE Engine seems powerful as hell and has the potential to reach that detailed and highly atmospheric experience from classic RE titles.
And while i agree that fixed camera angle games are not simply outdated and could work even in today's standards (Until Dawn and HD REmaster for an example), it's fair to note that the Resident Evil franchise has outgrown its roots by a large margin, and using the Resi 2's name and popularity nowadays it could not only reach a lot more people by using the over the shoulder perspective, but be the perfect bridge for more modern and classic fans. Just like RE7 was that blend of the original's structure with the first person view, a remake of 2, basically 20 years after its release, should be able to appeal and be played by both crowds.
REmake was its own special thing on 2002, but REmake 2 could be something beyond that in 2018/2019.
Even while noboby is contesting the effectiveness of the fixed camera angles, we never really saw a pure attempt of bringing that "SH" structure and atmospheric attention to detail with the over the shoulder perspective. And the ones which are very close to that direction nowadays (Dead Space, TEW or even some sections of RE4), were able to execute genuine tense encounters and oppressive environments using the action horror formula. A lot of fans would even call some of those examples "the best" survival horror experiences in today's standards, despite its differences and perspectives.
Resident Evil 4 even has the perfect blueprint for a third person version of the classic gameplay formula. With the right foucus and amount of care (and a few tweaks/restrictions here and there), it could be the perfect way to embrace what RE2 was in a more interactive and approachable way. The RE team has proven recently that they are capable and talented enough to make it work with FP in 7, while the RE Engine seems powerful as hell and has the potential to reach that detailed and highly atmospheric experience from classic RE titles.
And while i agree that fixed camera angle games are not simply outdated and could work even in today's standards (Until Dawn and HD REmaster for an example), it's fair to note that the Resident Evil franchise has outgrown its roots by a large margin, and using the Resi 2's name and popularity nowadays it could not only reach a lot more people by using the over the shoulder perspective, but be the perfect bridge for more modern and classic fans. Just like RE7 was that blend of the original's structure with the first person view, a remake of 2, basically 20 years after its release, should be able to appeal and be played by both crowds.
REmake was its own special thing on 2002, but REmake 2 could be something beyond that in 2018/2019.
Capcom doesn't reveal major titles outside of major events and only less than a year away from release anymore. And it seems to be working fine. Certainly not any worse than their previous PR strategies.
I think RE2make is further along than the successor to Revelations 2.
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Did you miss all the conversation in the thread lol.
There's a lot of explanations why it might not be.
99% chance the game will be TPS and there is nothing wrong with that. Dead Space and TEW showed us that TPS can also be great horror games.
If RE2R wasn't TPS, i would prefer it as FPS because the idea of revisiting such game as FPS is very interesting. According to relyhorror (via 4chan but shared their own too) they experimented a little on that but prefered to not go with it.
If RE2R wasn't TPS, i would prefer it as FPS because the idea of revisiting such game as FPS is very interesting. According to relyhorror (via 4chan but shared their own too) they experimented a little on that but prefered to not go with it.
I just don't think it makes sense given the layout and design of the game to do anything but fixed cameras. Unless they redesign most of the game I just cant see it happening.
Could be wrong. I'll play it whatever happens lol
How do you know that ?
Even if true, making what people want isn't necessarily the good answer here : developers behind RE2R should make what they want to make and surprise everyone in the process !
Resi 2 is 20 years old.....By how fast time is going I expect to my life to cut to this any day
Yeah but most of them aren't very good explanations and just people bending the logic toward what their personal preference is. :P
i'm wondering if REmake 2 is going to use their new RE engine
because ethan and every character in re7 looked so photo realistic, i kinda worry that they will ruin the design of the main re2 cast
resident evil characters have always looked very stylized
in terms of camera, i was always pro fixed camera angles and a very 1:1 remake of the game, but now i'm thinking i'd probably have more fun playing the game if it is OTS
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I think Chris in many ways was the sacrifice for the rest of the cast. I don't think any of the other cast will have such a drastic change in look as Chris got.
Not after the sheer amount of feedback Chris had.
I get that Capcom might want to increase sales for REmake 2 by making it more accessible to players with a third-person perspective but, again, I don't see why Capcom can't accept all three playstyles for Resident Evil games. If you think about it, in the long run, having REmake 2 with fixed angles, TPS Revelations 3, and RE8 as whatever will be much better for everyone involved (also sales wise).
If they're so concerned about wanting to get a lot of money out of REmake 2, then I'd rather they reduce the budget for it if it means we can get fixed camera angles.
If they're so concerned about wanting to get a lot of money out of REmake 2, then I'd rather they reduce the budget for it if it means we can get fixed camera angles.
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The biggest example that's used is always Until Dawn. Which I counter with being a game where moving is essentially just getting to each "event" or exploring and nothing more.
It definitely looks really nice though in that style.
Until Dawn is the only recent bigger budget game that uses fixed camera angles extensively, but there is sprinkles of some of its usage in more recent examples. Resident Evil 5: Lost in Nightmares had an easter egg which made the mansion section of it have fixed camera angles, Silent Hill Downpour used fixed camera angles for some specific scenes in the game (the two I most recall being this one series of rooms in the Radio Tower and the movie theater side-quest), The Evil within 1 VERY SPARINGLY used a few through its course, but they were all brief (the one I recall the most is the first time you awaken in the hospital where you upgrade, save, etc., the opening of that when you get out of bed uses a fixed camera angle until you step out of the room), Alice: Madness Returns used them in a few scenes, etc. Narrative Driven games funnily enough use fixed camera angles more than horror games though, Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls used them in several cases for example, as do the TellTale games (and of course, the after mentioned Until Dawn). There's examples of it being used in sparse places in some bigger profile indie games as well, such as Brothers: A Tale of Two Songs (and more recently A Way Out), there was an interesting take on it in one scene of What Remains of Edith Finch, and some other examples.
But fixed camera angles have become a rare breed, it kinda' died out when survival-horror games did due to over saturation of the market with them.
But fixed camera angles have become a rare breed, it kinda' died out when survival-horror games did due to over saturation of the market with them.
Just like how Nintendo releases 2D Mario and 3D Mario every generation, Capcom could brand the different flavors as horror and action brands. I think both flavors have big enough markets to be viable.
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If it's not RE 2 related, and it's not on Sony conference, i'll be pretty shocked.
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The amount of floor space is the main thing giving me hope that both are at E3.
AS much space, if not more than when they had MHW (With a dragon) and MVCI (with a ultron sigma throne).
Like, you don't need that much space if all you have is MM11 (A budget game) and DMCV along with ports and such.
Well, I could see both DMC5 and REmake 2 being at Sony E3.
Remake is technically already announced and if we are going by them rumours DMC5 was supposed to be revealed back at PSX. It wouldn't really be that much different than what they did last year (MH:W+MVC:I at Sony stage).
But that said it's impossible to really say if REmake will be at E3 at all, if we read between the lines Capcom is only releasing DMC5 this financial year. Remake 2 could theoretically release much closer to holidays and if that is the case then they might not resurface the game until late this year.
It's not the seating, but what's on the table itself. Whew.
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Just to not help matters at all. If you look up dates. Typically every major DMC is close to a major RE.
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