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JCal

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9-Volt

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Just to Nintendo; not like EA is much better. It's Nintendo's fault for being a portable though.

What? Did Wii U got better support from Capcom? Or EA?

It's not about being portable or home console. It's just some publishers think Nintendo audience is nothing more than little 6 year old kids who are crazy about Mario. The way Nintendo markets their consoles helps that idea, though. And Capcom is one of the good guys, at least old ports are something.
 

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What? Did Wii U got better support from Capcom? Or EA?

It's not about being portable or home console. It's just some publishers think Nintendo audience is nothing more than little 6 year old kids who are crazy about Mario. The way Nintendo markets their consoles helps that idea, though. And Capcom is one of the good guys, at least old ports are something.
But Capcom treats the Switch as a place to dump overpriced old games for nostalgic adults, so that doesn't really explain Capcom's behavior, either.
 

Naga

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What? Did Wii U got better support from Capcom? Or EA?

It's not about being portable or home console. It's just some publishers think Nintendo audience is nothing more than little 6 year old kids who are crazy about Mario. The way Nintendo markets their consoles helps that idea, though. And Capcom is one of the good guys, at least old ports are something.
WiiU absolutely did get better support from EA (NFS Most Wanted with exclusive features and content, Mass Effect 3).
WiiU and Capcom is arguable, but the 3DS got way, way better support.
 

9-Volt

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But Capcom treats the Switch as a place to dump overpriced old games for nostalgic adults, so that doesn't really explain Capcom's behavior, either.

None of the third party publishers' behavior is explainable on Switch. Capcom is just one of them.

- Square also treats Switch as a retro dumping ground, similar to Capcom, their only new game, Octopath is catered for Retro audience. At least they have cool DQ ports.
- Namco only brought games after the good performance of the "test" games. Yet they're not interested in bringing more, DBZ Kakarot, SAO Alicization Lyricois and One Punch Man are all skipping the platform.
- Sega, weirdest of them all, don't think Yakuza audience is on Switch. What? Who the hell do they think we are? People who hate games that are about Japanese culture? Sakura Wars skipping Switch is another mystery.
- Take Two was happy about Civ 6 performance on Switch yet nothing from them since. They're not even at Capcom level, any late ports from them would be appreciated greatly by the Switch audience. But they don't care.

Compared to them, Capcom, despite having unusual pricing policies, better support than most of those (maybe not Square). 9 games directly from them in one year is still something. Not what's expected of them, but still they care about Switch, even for a little.
 

RPGamer

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None of the third party publishers' behavior is explainable on Switch. Capcom is just one of them.

- Square also treats Switch as a retro dumping ground, similar to Capcom, their only new game, Octopath is catered for Retro audience. At least they have cool DQ ports.
- Namco only brought games after the good performance of the "test" games. Yet they're not interested in bringing more, DBZ Kakarot, SAO Alicization Lyricois and One Punch Man are all skipping the platform.
- Sega, weirdest of them all, don't think Yakuza audience is on Switch. What? Who the hell do they think we are? People who hate games that are about Japanese culture? Sakura Wars skipping Switch is another mystery.
- Take Two was happy about Civ 6 performance on Switch yet nothing from them since. They're not even at Capcom level, any late ports from them would be appreciated greatly by the Switch audience. But they don't care.

Compared to them, Capcom, despite having unusual pricing policies, better support than most of those (maybe not Square). 9 games directly from them in one year is still something. Not what's expected of them, but still they care about Switch, even for a little.


While i'm not exactly happy with Namco right now they will probably port some of their bigger PS4 games later on.

and they still have more new games for Switch than capcom:


  • Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth Complete Edition (PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation Vita) –
  • Digimon Survive (PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch)
  • Disney Tsum Tsum Festival (Nintendo Switch)
  • Little Nightmares II (PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, PC)
  • Ninja Box (Nintendo Switch)
  • One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 (PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, PC)
  • SD Gundam G Generation Cross Rays (PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch, PC)
  • Tsuri Spirits Nintendo Switch Version (Nintendo Switch)

SE is better too.
 

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None of the third party publishers' behavior is explainable on Switch. Capcom is just one of them.

- Square also treats Switch as a retro dumping ground, similar to Capcom, their only new game, Octopath is catered for Retro audience. At least they have cool DQ ports.
- Namco only brought games after the good performance of the "test" games. Yet they're not interested in bringing more, DBZ Kakarot, SAO Alicization Lyricois and One Punch Man are all skipping the platform.
- Sega, weirdest of them all, don't think Yakuza audience is on Switch. What? Who the hell do they think we are? People who hate games that are about Japanese culture? Sakura Wars skipping Switch is another mystery.
- Take Two was happy about Civ 6 performance on Switch yet nothing from them since. They're not even at Capcom level, any late ports from them would be appreciated greatly by the Switch audience. But they don't care.

Compared to them, Capcom, despite having unusual pricing policies, better support than most of those (maybe not Square). 9 games directly from them in one year is still something. Not what's expected of them, but still they care about Switch, even for a little.
SE is solid imo if you ignore Eidos like Eidos ignores the Switch. Good mix of ports (Final Fantasy, DQXI S) and new games/remakes (Trials of Mana, Octopath, Tokyo RPG Factory). Sega started off strong but tapered off, maybe discouraged by poor sales of Shining Resonance and Valkyria Chronicles 4. I never expected Yakuza to leave PlayStation. These companies are stubborn in their ways.
 

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Man what happened in this thread - Capcom never hyped this event up to be anything but some low-key TGS stage.

You would think people would get tired about the same old Capcom Switch discussions - and these comparisons with publishers that are much bigger and have more resources to port more of their lineup to Switch arent really helping.
 

Platy

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...wait.... capcom mentioned more ps4 than switch in their SWITCH PANEL ?

That is hilariously unsurprising xD
 

Kelanflyter

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None of the third party publishers' behavior is explainable on Switch. Capcom is just one of them.

- Square also treats Switch as a retro dumping ground, similar to Capcom, their only new game, Octopath is catered for Retro audience. At least they have cool DQ ports.
- Namco only brought games after the good performance of the "test" games. Yet they're not interested in bringing more, DBZ Kakarot, SAO Alicization Lyricois and One Punch Man are all skipping the platform.
- Sega, weirdest of them all, don't think Yakuza audience is on Switch. What? Who the hell do they think we are? People who hate games that are about Japanese culture? Sakura Wars skipping Switch is another mystery.
- Take Two was happy about Civ 6 performance on Switch yet nothing from them since. They're not even at Capcom level, any late ports from them would be appreciated greatly by the Switch audience. But they don't care.

Compared to them, Capcom, despite having unusual pricing policies, better support than most of those (maybe not Square). 9 games directly from them in one year is still something. Not what's expected of them, but still they care about Switch, even for a little.
Take 2 is bringing the outer world via private division also nba2k just arrived
 

BloodshotX

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What sort of dumb logic is this? Of course Capcom's going to get a devkit for whatever Nintendo does next. They may not be putting the games you want on Switch, but they are putting games on there, and those games are making Nintendo money.

While i dont believe capcom wont be getting switch 2 dev kits. I could very well see nintendo not involving capcom in the development of the switch 2 or even getting early dev kits.
They literally did that with the switch (capcom suggested more ram memory), and look what i brought them. (spoiler: Nothing)

Capcom is focusing to much on 360/ps3 (or even ps2) ports, gone are the promising words like "we are looking into bringing REengine to switch". Im sure it could run on the switch bc we've seen games like the witcher 3 coming to the switch(its butt ugly, but its running). So if that can run at a resonable resolution, than so can re7 with some retooling. But capcom took the easy(and cheap) way out and just dumped a cloud version on there(in japan that is)
 

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Capcom couldn't show less interest on the platform even if they tried, and some haven't still given up on Monster Hunter Switch dream.
 

Richietto

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I just don't understand it. Over 2 years and nothing but overpriced ports. The audacity to sell DMCs trilogy separately being for me the final straw. It just makes no sense. Meanwhile we have fucking Bethesda of all companies publishing Doom Eternal day and date!
 

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I'm still amazed how Nintendo's third party relations have basically done a 180 in the past 4 or so years. We've gone from Nintendo having little non-indie support in the West and enjoying decent Capcom support, to having the likes of the Witcher 3 and Doom Eternal, but little of note from Capcom. Who would have expected that?
 

AniHawk

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I'm still amazed how Nintendo's third party relations have basically done a 180 in the past 4 or so years. We've gone from Nintendo having little non-indie support in the West and enjoying decent Capcom support, to having the likes of the Witcher 3 and Doom Eternal, but little of note from Capcom. Who would have expected that?

capcom got some really strong support from sony when they really needed it, and it paid off extremely well. maybe not so much for street fighter v, but definitely for monster hunter, resident evil vii, and resident evil 2. i don't see them pulling away from that when they're in a stronger position than they have been in years, even if it comes at the expense of the japanese market.

i think they'll support switch slightly better moving forward - anything that's lower-effort or part of a port compilation is fair (mega man and ace attorney for example), but they're no longer in a partnership with nintendo. that was over with mh generations.
 

foxuzamaki

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SE is solid imo if you ignore Eidos like Eidos ignores the Switch. Good mix of ports (Final Fantasy, DQXI S) and new games/remakes (Trials of Mana, Octopath, Tokyo RPG Factory). Sega started off strong but tapered off, maybe discouraged by poor sales of Shining Resonance and Valkyria Chronicles 4. I never expected Yakuza to leave PlayStation. These companies are stubborn in their ways.
Has sega said They were disappointed with shining resonance....? If anything I'm betting that game overperformed especially on switch
 

Naga

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Capcom clearly have shown no interest in the Switch so why all of the sudden would they announce a brand new MH game for it?
Because they're happy with the results of those titles (MH included) on Switch and because it's an handheld version.
I also don't really see why the new game that Ichinose (Portable/Freedom and Gen director) teased at the 15th anniversary in March would be focused on home consoles given the focus on World.
 

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If Capcom isn't working on a new handheld MH for Switch (probably more traditional, reuse of assets, lower budget, etc.), then what is Ichinose's "MH Next"? Another console Monster Hunter series? MHW 2?
 

HockeyBird

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A bit of a side note but I am surprised Capcom hasn't announced ports of Onimusha 2 for any system yet.
 
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Because they're happy with the results of those titles (MH included) on Switch and because it's an handheld version.
I also don't really see why the new game that Ichinose (Portable/Freedom and Gen director) teased at the 15th anniversary in March would be focused on home consoles given the focus on World.
Ok first off why do we assume it's a Switch game or you know if was just a drawing .
 

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None of the third party publishers' behavior is explainable on Switch. Capcom is just one of them.

- Square also treats Switch as a retro dumping ground, similar to Capcom, their only new game, Octopath is catered for Retro audience. At least they have cool DQ ports.
- Namco only brought games after the good performance of the "test" games. Yet they're not interested in bringing more, DBZ Kakarot, SAO Alicization Lyricois and One Punch Man are all skipping the platform.
- Sega, weirdest of them all, don't think Yakuza audience is on Switch. What? Who the hell do they think we are? People who hate games that are about Japanese culture? Sakura Wars skipping Switch is another mystery.
- Take Two was happy about Civ 6 performance on Switch yet nothing from them since. They're not even at Capcom level, any late ports from them would be appreciated greatly by the Switch audience. But they don't care.

Compared to them, Capcom, despite having unusual pricing policies, better support than most of those (maybe not Square). 9 games directly from them in one year is still something. Not what's expected of them, but still they care about Switch, even for a little.

Japanese third parties are kinda missing the boat, I suspect though they will be more on board from the get go with Switch 2.

The Switch though really is rolling along fine despite that.
 
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Next generation consoles launch next year
If you're implying that there will be a new console MH by Ichinose's team as a next-gen launch title... maybe, actually. A next-gen exclusive game so soon would be a huge risk for Capcom, but the madmen might try. (Ichinose may not even have his own team anymore since they had to do support work for MHW, right? So this entire debate might be moot)
 

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I'm still amazed how Nintendo's third party relations have basically done a 180 in the past 4 or so years. We've gone from Nintendo having little non-indie support in the West and enjoying decent Capcom support, to having the likes of the Witcher 3 and Doom Eternal, but little of note from Capcom. Who would have expected that?
There are more software houses in the West that specialize in these downports. Some of these studios have been doing exclusively porting work for decades, see Aspyr for example. The switch having a sane and familiar dev environment for once let these teams slot right in if they want.

I don't know of this environment existing at all in Japan. Are there any similar dedicated porting studios?
 
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