That's a security feature actually. It's not quite the same as having the car running, leaving the vehicle, and walking away.
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Car was just Stolen :/
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That's a security feature actually. It's not quite the same as having the car running, leaving the vehicle, and walking away.
So how's this work? As soon as the thief turns the car off, it's off for good because they don't have the key?
Actually having a little bit of a mindfuck because of this thread because the dealership mentioned this feature of my car specifically citing OPs scenario, but upon Google-ing, that is not true. My car would drive away just fine without the keyfob in it.
Dealership told me that the car would cut the engine after a certain amount of distance without a keyfob.
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What's difference? My car was in park with no key fob inside the car.
After some googling, permenently locking belts does seem to be a feature on newer cars. Though it also seems they only go off if the belts were in use, though that depends on the car.
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Who at the dealership told you that? As someone who has worked at a dealership I can tell you with certainty that like 80% of salesmen dont know shit about the cars theyre selling. They make shit up all the time
Someone feel free to correct me, but no car manufacturer has a keyfob setup that shuts off the car if it's been driven away from the fobs location.
Such a thing doesn't exist to my knowledge.
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I think they're referring to the car being placed into drive even with no key fob present.
Cars will not turn off automatically. I meant more that if you do not have the key fob and hit the power button on a push-button-start car, it'll only turn on the electronics and will not start/shift out of drive. If you have already been in drive and go to park, leaving the car will not turn it off.
Yes, but it still doesn't make it the victim's fault it got stolen. It was the fault of the person who chose to take something that is not his.
Oh, I guess then if I find a car running and unattended then it must be free for me to take. Also, any item anyone leaves around unattended. After all it was their fault so no blame on me. Totally not the fault of the person taking what isn't his. And don't even say you put a disclaimer, you also said it was pretty much the victim's fault.
it's totally, 100 percent the fault of the person who took what was not his. There is a difference between some one being stupid and some one being at fault
Damn dude that sucks. I live on the very western end of Kentucky, and I am not going to lie, I leave my car running when I run into the liquor store or something all the time.
However, as of right now, that is never going to happen again lmao. sorry for your loss OP
However, as of right now, that is never going to happen again lmao. sorry for your loss OP
Even ignoring the chance it can get stolen, that's very environmentally wasteful and it's not like NJ/NY even get that cold.
This whole story is just stupid. Why would you steal a car just to destroy it. People confuse me.
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Just wanna say good on the OP for sticking around in this thread. Dunno if I'd wanna come back to my own thread if it was mostly filled with people asking the same questions. Even as someone who grew up in Indiana, I'd personally never leave my car running, but I get that it's not super uncommon in some areas.
Good luck with your situation.
Good luck with your situation.
You live in Norcross OP? Lol jk thats the only speedway I know
Oh it gets cold. And hot. We have 100 degree temperature swings, on average over the course of a year. We get extremes.
Also, no one is idling for a half an hour lol.
My '13 Jeep can be locked without the fob in the car. Remote start or not.
Where in Ohio do you live? There are def parts of Cincy I would never ever leave even the windows down in a turned off car while I went in the store lol
...it doesn't absolve the owner of negligence/responsibility in the matter, either. It was definitely the OPs fault that the car was so easily stolen.
It's a solution to a problem nobody had and you can see how it can get taken of advantage of by criminals.
That's your mistake OP, always hate it when people leave their cars running. Hopefully they find it.
It truly baffles me. My ex had a car that did the push-button/fob thing, and the only practical difference I found was that I was putting the keys in the center console rather than the ignition. Wasn't an advantage to me in any way at all.
My car usually goes nuts and starts beeping if the key fob isn't in the vehicle when the engine is running (like if I leave it in my pocket while I'm scraping ice/snow off), and it won't start without it.
I'm not surprised OP thought the car was fine being left unattended and running. If it won't let you start the car, and it beeps if you take the fob out, that, combined with the "smart key" name makes it sound secure
I'm not surprised OP thought the car was fine being left unattended and running. If it won't let you start the car, and it beeps if you take the fob out, that, combined with the "smart key" name makes it sound secure
It's a convenience feature. You no longer have to take a key out to unlock your door or start your car. You can just leave it in your pocket or purse and have full control over your car. It's especially helpful if you have your hands full or have kids to not have to fiddle with keys to unlock your doors.
Holy shit at the dog pilling regarding leaving the car. Maybe because i live the east coast in the city i see it all the time. Especially in the winter. People always warm up their cars.
You only fucked up by not locking the doors which honestly can happen to anyone. I can't believe stealing cars is still this easy in this day and age.
You only fucked up by not locking the doors which honestly can happen to anyone. I can't believe stealing cars is still this easy in this day and age.
Honda has a dumb system. Hyundai doesn't let the car move until the keyfob is inside the vehicle even if the car is on.
Remember when people were breaking into cars with a tennis ball and "hotwiring" them by putting a screwdriver in the ignition and just turning it? Good times.
Tech advancement hasn't made anything harder. There's equipment out there that can clone your keyfob and enable someone to enter, start and take your car in seconds.
Time to go old school and bring back the Club. Or whatever they call that other thing that locks your brake pedal upright, so you can push it down to start the car or shift out of park.
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That one was precious. The other day a guy enthusiastically posted about how he was going to finally take the dive and just go to China. A few days later, he posts a panicky thread about how he's lost and afraid in China and longed deeply for home. Lol. One of the best laughs I've had on Era yet.
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Any place that goes below freezing is cold.
It was like 4 a month ago.
convenience, duh. no need to touch or handle a key.
this. my friends car was stolen for a quick joyride and the description afterward was not pretty. engine was wrecked, wheels and tires, suspension, trim interior and exterior, all damaged. his insurance classified it as totaled, even though it was not crashed. all in just a few hours.
its not their fault it got stolen, but the insurance may well have clauses exempting cover in such cases - like if you leave your car unlocked too.
pretty sure my car doesn't shut off if you remove the key from inside the car - just would refuse to start once you stop it after driving off. I might check later what happens if I try and lock the car from outside leaving the engine running (not something I'd do but now I'm curious)
Simplegamer you have a 10 page thread now. Might be worth updating the first post to avoid replies like these ^^
Just going to repeat this, idiling your like this is against the law and a citable offense in most states because of theft and environmental concerns. While OP is a victim, there is clear negligence on his behalf for which he is responsible for.
I mean it only makes sense. You can't have a car cutting off in the middle of interstate traffic just because a key fob's battery dies.
Where did I say you shouldn't lock your car? I said that it is not the fault of the victim when some one chooses to take something that is not theirs. Just cause the victim made it easy is not an excuse one bit! With how untrustworthy people are it is stupid to leave the car running but don't confuse stupidity with at fault.
That does not make it his fault it was stolen. Do you people blame the woman when she gets raped cause she wore a skirt? I mean she made it "easy". /s
Point is the fault when some one does something they should not do is 100 percent on them. They are the ones who chose to take something that is not theirs. Just cause it was easy was absolutely no fucking excuse. It's not theirs, they should not take it. People should be able to trust other people. Just cause they cannot does not make them at fault for the person being untrustworthy.
Yes. Yes you can lock the door with the car running. It's affectionately called "police mode." Every fob has a physical key in it for situations where you need to get into the vehicle if the fob isn't allowing you access. This is why you still have key holes in the doors and trunk.
You lock the doors with the physical latch(not the electronic switch) and then use the key to lock the driver's door. To unlock, you break out the key again.
My 2017 civic ext has zero key holes.
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Actually after doing some searching you are correct I had no idea I even had a key hole hidden on the drivers door.
It can be two things. The theft is 100% the fault of the criminal. But the instigating boo boo was definitely on OP.
Philosophically, sure, the OP's hands are clean. Pragmatically, though, the situation speaks for itself; it's unwise to assume the rest of the world has good intentions. I've been there. I learned my lesson and didn't make the same mistake again. I believe that's the only point people were trying to make, though I admit by this point it is well-trodden ground.