Tweet implies it's tradition panning over many years already so wouldn't it mean devs get their slice from 2021 fiscal year?
Not that it will break any banks either way as they most likely find reasoning and excuses why excec gets at least 5 figures and junior dev is lucky to break 4 figures.
Boss of awful company openly lying about how shit conditions are for workers, when it’s already known they’ve been forced to sacrifice family life, health and well-being for the sake of covering the ineptitude poor management. Garbage individual doing his best to save face while grinding staff to the bone behind closed doors.
The sooner CDPR fall from grace the better. They have no business producing a piece of work that claims to be about fighting corporate exploitation.
Im having this moral quandary where, I know I’ll eventually play Cyberpunk, but CDPR is scummy. But, if I don’t buy it at launch, the devs who were forced to crunch will lose out on bonuses. It sucks.
Imagine if all the devs walked out in protest and demanded better working conditions and salaries. Just imagine how amazing that would be. They hold all the power (their labor), they just need to collectively walk out and strike.
Im having this moral quandary where, I know I’ll eventually play Cyberpunk, but CDPR is scummy. But, if I don’t buy it at launch, the devs who were forced to crunch will lose out on bonuses. It sucks.
If you're serious colorblindmode, please tell everyone you know to never use this logic again. Let's understand the dynamic at play here and how companies try to shift responsibility and how this creates improper messaging.
The normal dynamic of creating and selling a product would dictate that the more you sell, the more you profit. A company gets to decide how that revenue and profit is distributed.
Let's say that you were 100% right about bonuses being achieved for more sales. By doing this, a company has now made "you" responsible for paying its employees. They could have done great work, or poor work, but now the message seems to be just as you've said "If I buy the game, the workers will receive more money".
There are different schools of thought regarding value and payment, but let's pretend that we could definitely say that a certain artist working on the game should be paid $70,000/year for the 4 years that they worked their. If they are being paid that, then bonuses truly are BONUSES. It's just a nice bit of cash for the game doing well. But if they're being paid LESS, then a bonus is actually pushing them to be paid the amount they're actually supposed to be paid in the first place.
You'll have to excuse the deep cynicism for large corporations, but "bonuses" based on "metacritic scores" and "total sales" are not always nice incentives to celebrate the people that work for you. They can very easily be ways to withhold money from people who deserve it, and to pressure them into doing well and (shocker) crunching when "asked" in order to keep their numbers and output high.
And to briefly mention the alleged revenue-sharing of 10% of one year of sales... I mean really. Really look at that number. The PEOPLE WHO MADE THE GAME, get 10% of the games profit, for PART of the game's lifecycle.
People who made nearly 100% of the game. 10% of the profit. Management and marketing (I'm assuming those are the two entities not included in "the team") don't do nothing, but maybe you have to decide if the literal rest of the company is only worth 10% of the profit (And again, that's profit, not revenue). The funny thing is, CDPR might actually be doing MORE than some companies here and it's still this bad.
It isn't my place to speak for CDPR employees, I'm very eager to hear more from them and their work experiences. After all, if they feel as though they're getting paid their worth and bonuses truly are "bonus" then my whole point here is moot. Then the "only" problem is the crunch and the pressure to crunch.
But honestly, even if you feel that 10% is fair, I still think it's just strangely backwards to not give to to them for the lifetime of the product. You could even just cut it off at like 4 or 5 years after all of the DLCs have been released.
tl;dr: It's a company's job to pay their employees properly. Do not feel guilty when they knowingly (or let's be charitable, because they can unknowingly do it too) try to make YOU responsible for them paying their employees a fair wage.
CDPR needs a massive culture change. And they really need to shut up with the damage control, just accept that there's a shitty work culture in your company, that's the only way this is going to get fixed.
Im having this moral quandary where, I know I’ll eventually play Cyberpunk, but CDPR is scummy. But, if I don’t buy it at launch, the devs who were forced to crunch will lose out on bonuses. It sucks.
"They were very thankful as I waved photos of their families in front of their faces. Most had forgotten what their children looked like at this point! They were very happy I was there to remind them."
I’m not aware of any other company specially in games industry going from do no evil/good guys to Evil company in such a short period of time
Wonder if they were different years ago and just got corrupted once the big bucks started pouring in
I have no doubts that their management are a bunch of assholes but all the info all of the sudden also is starting to look a bit like a smear campaign
But if all is true I just hope that it adds pressure from stock holders to change management
Shit, I take my previous post back. I was wondering if part of the situation wasnt a bit of smearing campaign as well. Reading these transcripts/ emails: he needs to go so we can buy the game without feeling like we are supporting such a fucked up people/ business manager
Shit, I take my previous post back. I was wondering if part of the situation wasnt a bit of smearing campaign as well. Reading these transcripts/ emails: he needs to go so we can buy the game without feeling like we are supporting such a fucked up people/ business manager
To be fair there’s so many other issues around CDPR’s comms too, removing this guy for these comments wouldn’t even scratch the surface of dealing with the reasons not to give them your money.
To be fair there’s so many other issues around CDPR’s comms too, removing this guy for these comments wouldn’t even scratch the surface of dealing with the reasons not to give them your money.
True, but remove him because of his track record. Consequences like this might help with culture change.
But true power lies in consumer response. Makes me think if in couple of years we won’t see a logo/ certificate in game covers saying “employee fair treatment”
