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Rowsdower

Prophet of Truth - The Wise Ones
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,572
Canada
Good. Hopefully more companies follow; especially PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo.

I think Steam is suspending purchases as well?
 

GMM

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,484
Good, every major developer, publisher and platform should do the same.
 

Ales34

Member
Apr 15, 2018
6,455
Piracy is huge in Russia, so unfortunately I'm sure this will only make the problem worse.
 

GlamPrime

Banned
Nov 1, 2021
1,210
Probably best for people not to play their games anyways.

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Russia is dropping bombs on Ukraine designed specifically to explode human lungs in the shock wave and that's your response?

Seriously?
 

Kastanjemanden

alt account
Banned
Jan 23, 2022
363
Kastanjemanden explain yourself or was this just a low effort drive by post?

This kinda explains everything that needs to be explained.

Post in thread 'Cyberpunk 2077 |OT| Welcome to Night City (READ THE OP BEFORE YOU POST)'

Epileptic PSA: There are reports that animations and flashing lights in this game can cause seizures. Read this article for more information


Why is there controversy surrounding CD Projekt Red and Cyberpunk 2077?

CD Projekt Red has a history of transphobia. This is well documented at this point and not a matter of debate. Due to this context there is particular concern about transphobic or insensitive content in Cyberpunk 2077 itself, such as the decision to tie gender to voice in the character creator, and trans fetishization in illustrations in the game—and these are just examples from prerelease footage. Additionally, there have been concerns about racist imagery and stereotyping. This article goes into depth about some of these issues.


What incidents of transphobia have occurred surrounding the game and the company, and why are they hurtful?

This list will be updated over time as more examples come to light, especially as the game releases and more content is uncovered. If you wish to have something added to this list, please send me a DM and get my attention.


Why is ResetEra allowing an official thread for this game?

There has been a lot of discussion about whether there should even be an official thread for Cyberpunk 2077, and many points of view were considered for this decision. Ultimately, a thread like this can serve as a platform for minority concerns to be aired and discussed respectfully, and given appropriate attention. We've also heard from minority members, including some trans members, who have asked for a space where they can talk about the game without needing to worry about trolling and bigoted posting. We expect all posters in the thread to extend the consideration and empathy to give them that space. We will be moderating as strictly as necessary to make sure they do.


What can I do to help fight transphobia?

Transphobia exists in many aspects of our lives. From casual discrimination such as the continuous misuse of a person's preferred pronouns, to more serious ramifications such as housing being denied, legal rights being taken away, and being discriminated in the legal system. Every trans person either has experienced transphobia in their lives, or will experience transphobia at some point.

Moreover, transphobia is a systematic issue that is present in every level of our society. Politicians fight to take away our rights. Celebrities use coded language and religious justifications, if not outright hostility, in order to continue to deny our existence. Media continues to portray us as the butt of a joke, or acts like we're something to be fascinated by, rather than treated with respect.

Actions speak louder than words: Become active in your local politics, donate to transgender causes, stand up for these issues wherever they arise, and if you know transgender people in your life be there for them and support them.


Here are some pro-trans organizations around the world where you can make a donation and show your support
  • For those of you in the US, The Trevor Project is one of the leading LGBT organizations. They are dedicated to crisis intervention and suicide prevention for people who are in need of support, love, and care.
  • For those of you in the UK, Mermaids is dedicated to the support of transgender, non-binary, and gender-diverse children, young adults, and their families. They have been around since 1995, and have been one of the most vocal voices speaking out against transphobia in the UK, including showing the dangers that transphobia imposes upon our youth.
  • If you would like to donate to CDPR's native country of Poland, you can find the Trans-Fuzja Foundation website here. The Trans-Fuzja Foundation has been around since 2008, and is dedicated to the support of transgender people in Poland in many aspects of life and society, including politics.
We are your friends. We are your family members. We're your coworkers. We're the people you meet on the street. We're the essential workers who keep society running in a pandemic. We're everywhere. We're not some sort of freak or joke, and we're not going away.

I want to give major thanks to Uzzy for lending her talent, time, and effort in putting together graphics and material for this official thread. Without her, this would not have been possible on such short notice. I would also like to give a shout out and thanks to Kyuuji for allowing me to use images and links from her own thread for this posts.
 

Deleted member 25606

User requested account closure
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Oct 29, 2017
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They're probably talking about the transphobia and crunch. As for this is I want to say good on them but considering their location they have skin in this game it's not just "corporation doing good thing". They are doing the right thing do not get me wrong, but war in Ukraine has the potential to affect them in ways that it doesnt for a lot of us, it makes sense they are taking this stance.
 

Razmos

Unshakeable One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 28, 2017
15,890
They've done a good thing in this specific instance.
Let's not completely handwave away the previous issues though
 

Silver-Streak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,007
I've said this elsewhere, but:

Sanctions set out by governments to directly impact the offending government/regime/etc, and those people in power, I totally get and support.

Stuff like this doesn't impact the government (nor likely the oligarchs) of Russia nor Belarus, and just further harms the Russian and Belarusian general populace. I'm not sure how this helps anything. That said, it is CDPR's choice on where they do business, anyway.
 

Deleted member 6263

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Oct 25, 2017
9,387
I remember reading comments on Reddit about gamers being upset by these kinds of decisions, we really are the most oppressed.
 

GameAddict411

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,521
I love the people here who are pretending CDPR have done nothing the past to warrant people to boycott them.
 

Uzzy

Gabe’s little helper
Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,210
Hull, UK
Even if the financial sanctions mean it's almost impossible for someone to buy something on GOG from a Russian/Belarussian bank account, making this less of a financially painful move, it's still something to take a stand like this, not without reputational cost, and it's welcome. Others should follow suit.
 

Soap

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,191
As a polish publisher/developer I would think this feels especially meaningful to them (what is going on in Ukraine), so I am not shocked by this at all.
 

Delusibeta

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,648
I think Steam is suspending purchases as well?
My understanding is that, out of all the payment processing options currently provided to Steam users in Russia, the only one that currently works is PayPal, suggesting the block is further up the chain. Certainly, I know both Visa and Mastercard have announced they're no longer accepting payments in Russia. But yeah, I believe CD Projekt Red is the first platform holder (for a given value of "platform", although I would argue GOG would qualify) to officially announce a suspension of said platform in Russia.
 

GeoGonzo

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,329
Madrid, Spain
I'm not a mod and I'm not policing what people can post here but... I think it is a bad look to dogpile someone for taking a potshot at CDPR, even if it is unrelated to this topic. What CDPR is doing here is a good thing (that others have done and hopefully more will do too), but this company has done a number of questionable things in the past and I don't see how doing something good now means that they're suddenly beyond reproach.
 

Uzzy

Gabe’s little helper
Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,210
Hull, UK
My understanding is that, out of all the payment processing options currently provided to Steam users in Russia, the only one that currently works is PayPal, suggesting the block is further up the chain. Certainly, I know both Visa and Mastercard have announced they're no longer accepting payments in Russia. But yeah, I believe CD Projekt Red is the first platform holder (for a given value of "platform", although I would argue GOG would qualify) to officially announce a suspension of said platform in Russia.

Speculating a bit, but accepting PayPal might just mean accepting money in a PayPal wallet? Certainly the sanctions are practically making it impossible for Russian/Belarussian consumers to buy things from the 'West' in general, so there's a defacto suspension until wallet funds dry up.
 

Kastanjemanden

alt account
Banned
Jan 23, 2022
363
I'm not a mod and I'm not policing what people can post here but... I think it is a bad look to dogpile someone for taking a potshot at CDPR, even if it is unrelated to this topic. What CDPR is doing here is a good thing (that others have done and hopefully more will do too), but this company has done a number of questionable things in the past and I don't see how doing something good now means that they're suddenly beyond reproach.

Or the fact that they're silent now after I posted my link to the staff post.

Also one user said "because of one game?"
 

mattiewheels

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,107
I've said this elsewhere, but:

Sanctions set out by governments to directly impact the offending government/regime/etc, and those people in power, I totally get and support.

Stuff like this doesn't impact the government (nor likely the oligarchs) of Russia nor Belarus, and just further harms the Russian and Belarusian general populace. I'm not sure how this helps anything. That said, it is CDPR's choice on where they do business, anyway.
Yeah, how does this punish the government and not just their people?
 

Dizastah

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,124
User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing Concerns of Transphobia; Back Seat Moderation
I'm not a mod and I'm not policing what people can post here but... I think it is a bad look to dogpile someone for taking a potshot at CDPR, even if it is unrelated to this topic. What CDPR is doing here is a good thing (that others have done and hopefully more will do too), but this company has done a number of questionable things in the past and I don't see how doing something good now means that they're suddenly beyond reproach.
In no way do I defend CDPR when I say this but I think we should do one of two things....ban CDPR talk altogether or stop derailing threads about CDPR that have nothing to do with their well known past issues. Not allow talk about them and allow thread derail just because it's CDPR imo.
 

Ashes of Dreams

Unshakable Resolve
Member
May 22, 2020
14,461
In no way do I defend CDPR when I say this but I think we should do one of two things....ban CDPR talk altogether or stop derailing threads about CDPR that have nothing to do with their well known past issues. Not allow talk about them and allow thread derail just because it's CDPR imo.
Nah. Let people talk about CDPR and let people express that whatever they do doesn't change their stance on them. Neither is doing harm to you. An individual can't derail a thread anyway, the derail came from the 10 or so people who jumped on them.
 

cursed beef

Member
Jan 3, 2021
655
Company does an unequivocally good thing.

"Time to shit on 'em."

"unequivocally good"

how so? who's this gonna hurt? the warmongering state or citizens who didn't vote for the warmongering state?

not to mention the ruble crashed so this is more than likely a shrewd business move rather than an act of solidarity
 

D O T

Member
Jan 1, 2021
4,167
User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Transphobia
Good for them, sadly drive by post gonna derail this thread into something else, when it's clearly about the invasion, not some toy.