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CDPR: Cyberpunk 2077 will still have "some very occasional" 3rd person cutscenes
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that sucks, it's dumb that this game has a cool character creation system but they don't use it well. I wish this game was 3rd person or at lest like Deus ex where all actions like cover and kills are in 3rd person. They already look really similar so take that as well
There is a kind of 3rd person view, in vehicles specifically. But everything else was made with first person in mind.
I find going out into a third-person view for cutscenes in an otherwise first-person game to be pretty annoying, so this is good news.
I was among those that thought people were being silly for being completely putt off by the first person gameplay, but this seems kind of weird. No third person at ALL, not even in the cutscenes? Why even have a customizable character at that point?
3rd person vehicles are a crutch to deal with the limitations of small FoV afforded to 16:9 screens.
Notably I can do first person vehicles just fine in VR or 21:9 screens.
Yeesh, fist person camera really constrains the cinematographical potential of cutscenes. Not something I'll be skipping the game over but absolutely not the call I'd have made.
(Also, I hate the "first person is always more immersive than third" thinking with a passion. It comes out of people with only the most superficial understanding of how immersion is established and broken, something that has very, very little to do with whether the camera is first or third person)
(Also, I hate the "first person is always more immersive than third" thinking with a passion. It comes out of people with only the most superficial understanding of how immersion is established and broken, something that has very, very little to do with whether the camera is first or third person)
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I honestly expect them add some kind of third person option (even if it is just for limited parts of the game) down the line with the expansions if the game becomes a huge success.
So you have a cool character creator and then you basically never see your character again?
I imagine there's gonna be a third person mode later down the line with all these complaints, so I'm not gonna day 1 this and just wait for that.
I get motion sickness from first person anyways, should have just given the player a choice.
I imagine there's gonna be a third person mode later down the line with all these complaints, so I'm not gonna day 1 this and just wait for that.
I get motion sickness from first person anyways, should have just given the player a choice.
Hope it's not true. What's the point in creating a char then? I like to see my character I created. I have no problems with gameplay being first person.
Honestly just seems like it's such a massive game they realized the game would never get finished in time if they had to animate for every character model they created or maybe just caused too many bugs for them to fix but they'll go with the it's more immersive standpoint which is fair enough, maybe somebody in the design team just wanted it that way and one of the directors agreed? Oh well. Sucks, was hoping for Mass Effect style cutscenes where you get to see your created character. Never mind.
Good call to make this into a thread after all.
Yeah, I think it's really unfortunate if all of that is gone. I also think this sequence of V waking up wouldn't look as good in first person. Like when a character in a first person drinks something it often looks more weird than immersiveA LOT of people seem to have trouble coming to terms with the fact that they're buying a first person shooter RPG. That said, shame because the direction of the cutscenes, dialogue aside, looked good with some really neat cinematography, pacing, and details like V's eyes lighting up when she answered a phone call. Along with some good transitions to first person.
was looking forward to seeing more of that in the final game.
Yeah this is what I'm thinking. Maybe so they don't have to do a ton of work to make the animations look right on the character model they weren't originally designed for.
Stupid as hell considering the character customization.
Should have made FPV in cutscenes optional. Those that want extra immersion can turn it on.
Should have made FPV in cutscenes optional. Those that want extra immersion can turn it on.
And here I was worried I would get to look at my character this game. I was upper lukewarm on this to begin with, and now they seem very determined to do their best to drive me down to disinterested. It's the character's story not mine, so there is nothing convincing or immersive about first-person perspective.
I thought this game had character customization? What's the fucking point of that if we don't actually look at them anywhere but in the car?
I thought this game had character customization? What's the fucking point of that if we don't actually look at them anywhere but in the car?
Does seem odd to spend so much time on a character creator for an aspect you'll see only when in a vehicle or at the memu.
This is pretty much how I feel about this. I'm guessing it's because of "immersion" but it feels like a loss in terms of both being able to see my customised character and perhaps cinematography wise.
Might as well have just given us a pre-assigned character looks for each background. Character appearance customization feels really silly now that the game is strictly first person except for bike rides.
The people unrealistically complaining about the lack of third person are a very very very small minority. Not every developer has rockstar money and time.
People realize that there are still cutscenes right? Like this is still an open world RPG with fully animated cutscenes.
I imagine like the camera in god of war it was an artistic choice they made midway through development so that we never leave the perspective of the character, and not a result of dev time.
So if you can't ever see who you're playing as then why is there character customisation?
I'll laugh my ass off if this is one of those fist-person perspective games that doesn't have a single mirror in its world.
I'll laugh my ass off if this is one of those fist-person perspective games that doesn't have a single mirror in its world.
I don't understand the point of creating my own character then? Why add all the features of what your character looks like if you can't see them in the cutscenes? Sounds like a dumb move if true. I'm less enthusiastic about the game now.
What's the point in creating a visually appealing character if you almost never see it in action anyway?
I think many people would be cool with it if they didn't say we could have a bunch of customization and if we didn't already see great looking 3rd person cutscenes. This is turning into one of those games that shouldn't have been shown into near release
Well after this news I sure as hell won't be spending any time creating a character at all, will just hit auto on everything and select a voice and that's it. No point in wasting time on creating a character then.
This seems extremely likely.
Wouldn't surprise me if third-person cutscenes returned in an "Enhanced Edition" a year or so down the road.
This is the rational, mature, classy response I've come to expect on this forum.
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I don't have a strong preference either way, but I like this. I can't name many other big cinematic RPGs keeping all the cutscenes strictly in first person. I enjoy the idea of them going with a consistent POV the entire time, and I look forward to all the neat stuff this will actually allow on their part. As far as roleplaying goes, I definitely do find this more immersive.
That's a bummer :( What's the point of making your character customizable in any way if the only time you ever see them are in menus?
I'm glad V at least has a personality and speaks, but I'm really sad that we'll only ever get to see our V in menus when equipping gear or whatever. I mentioned this in the silent/mute protag thread, but I never really feel like the character in a game I'm playing is "me", and being forced to play in first person doesn't (for me anyway) offer any additional sense of "immersion" into the world.
Ah well. Hope the game itself is still good despite that. It's definitely not a dealbreaker in any way for me, but a definite bummer.
I'm glad V at least has a personality and speaks, but I'm really sad that we'll only ever get to see our V in menus when equipping gear or whatever. I mentioned this in the silent/mute protag thread, but I never really feel like the character in a game I'm playing is "me", and being forced to play in first person doesn't (for me anyway) offer any additional sense of "immersion" into the world.
Ah well. Hope the game itself is still good despite that. It's definitely not a dealbreaker in any way for me, but a definite bummer.
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