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jelly

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Oct 26, 2017
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Don't worry, the public will bail the companies out while you're busy firing everyone. Same as always.
 

z1ggy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Argentina
Of course a global recession is coming up but theres an underlying (and bigger) problem and thats worlds debt per country
 

Deleted member 38227

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Jan 12, 2018
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To an extent. In most cases they're beholden to share holders.

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Br3wnor

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Oct 27, 2017
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You have to consider that only even in recent years did accounting practices and principles start being followed. Additionally It's widely known banks there offer hoards of loans and cash that are then backed by the government meaning lots of Chinese individuals take this money invest elsewhere (see US housing market) with little concern of default.

China does a lot of things right but their appetite for growth and need to become a global power has pushed their government to use incredibly questionable practices to stimulate growth (see currently with their stock market). Unfortately given its communist state a lot of what is done is not shared publicly and there's few checks and balances.

It's not sustainable and as a previous poster said when entire Chinese cities are building mega skyscrapers yet none of the lights are on, at some point they are all going to crash and burn.

It's sustainable if China wins the AI wars which right now they're doing. AI Is going to be such an economic disruptor in the next few decades that if China can get ahead there and begin the autonomous revolution their growth will explode to the point where the empty cities don't even matter. Their ability to collect data on their citizens (visual, audio, medical, financial, etc.) on such a large scale and with little to no privacy concerns that most western countries deal with is such a huge leg up for them on developing more advanced AI. They're able to feed so much more data in to AI machine learning and it just continues to build on itself. US tech companies are now trying to get into (or back into) China because of this and there's areal risk that they're going to start lapping the west.
 

Mulciber

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Aug 22, 2018
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"Everything was fun until Democrats took the house!" -Trump, right before his 2020 victory. This country always falls for it.
 

Josh378

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have a feeling they're going to do what they did in Mexico and separate the poor from the CEOs by using walls and mercenaries. Incoming third world in the US.
 

Jecht

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Oct 25, 2017
2,650
Don't worry, you scumbag fuckers will be fine when the shit goes down. It's everyone else who's fucked.
 

Goldenroad

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
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Nov 2, 2017
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It's coming. Trickle down has been proven to not work. The only way to avoid a recession is to get more money in the hands of the working class and do it now. They will spend that money because there is zero incentive to save at low interest rates. Tax cuts for the wealthy and large corporations have never once, in the history of capitalism, stimulated economic growth. Not once. Cut taxes and increase wages for the working class though, and things start booming. Either that, or start a war.
 

hurlex

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Oct 25, 2017
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Funny how they don't fear climate change when that's what''ll bring this whole thing down like a house of cards.

A recession would probably help with Climate change. Recession means less people buying shit which means less factories running.

Carbon emissions dropped a good amount during the last recession.
 

Deleted member 7130

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Oct 25, 2017
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CEOs: We're deadly terrified of a recession as a result of wealth distribution to the already obscenely rich.
Leftist: Then how about higher marginal taxes and higher worker wages to redistribute wealth back in the public domain and bolster consumer stability?
CEOs: No
 

stone616

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Oct 29, 2017
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Maybe stop hoarding all the wealth then? If the little guy was given more of what the top 1% keeps they'd actually spend it.
 

ss1

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's sustainable if China wins the AI wars which right now they're doing. AI Is going to be such an economic disruptor in the next few decades that if China can get ahead there and begin the autonomous revolution their growth will explode to the point where the empty cities don't even matter. Their ability to collect data on their citizens (visual, audio, medical, financial, etc.) on such a large scale and with little to no privacy concerns that most western countries deal with is such a huge leg up for them on developing more advanced AI. They're able to feed so much more data in to AI machine learning and it just continues to build on itself. US tech companies are now trying to get into (or back into) China because of this and there's areal risk that they're going to start lapping the west.


For some reason this talk reminds of the hysteria that surrounded Japan at the height of its economic bubble. They too were going to leap ahead of the west with their advance "5th Generation" computing strategy. Books and articles were written about the west were going to lose their leadership. But we all know how that turned out.

As someone who actually works in a particular area of AI I find it hard to believe that AI itself is an economic panacea in itself. Yes there will be some degree of greater automation but I wouldn't expect massive improvements in GDP.
 

Lkr

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Oct 28, 2017
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What else do they have to fear? They got tax cuts and are hardly regulated