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I was just thinking about characters with interesting designs and... one thing that always kinda bothered me is when characters are made to be physically imposing/athletic/dominant, but look rather average when it comes to their actual physique.

This trope is a bit more tolerable in explicit superhero media where characters either have otherworldly origins or have undergone some sort of experiment or accident in order to gain otherwise impossible superpowers. But in stuff like JRPG's, anime, etc, it just kinda takes me out when characters that are made to seem extremely physically capable just look like average teenagers.

Take something like Ruby Rose from RWBY, for instance.

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In this world, you have all these young characters training to be monster hunters, except they're already extremely skilled & athletic as exemplified through the extravagant fight scenes. But when you look at what they're doing, you realize that the characters should actually look more athletic than they actually do. In Ruby's case, she carries around this scythe that's twice her size & is also a sniper rifle. Something like that would have to weigh a ton, and yet Ruby swings it around like it's made of hollow plastic. So, you would think that her core strength would be enormous & would be pretty cut & stocky... but she just looks like a regular-ass anime girl. This gets especially silly when the show portrays Ruby as being an ineffectual hand-to-hand combatant. Not only does that not matter - she has a fucking gun-scythe, can literally turn into rose petals & fly really fast, and has a secret sharingan - it's also very absurd that she wouldn't be effective with the hands. She apparently has the core strength of a world-class bodybuilder & is faster than anyone in that doesn't have access to teleportation, she should be a problem in hand-to-hand fights with grunts, at least.

For another example... in Final Fantasy XIV, I main Monk & play as a female Roegadyn (basically a hot orc race) with nearly max muscle because... well, it makes sense. A demigod who prefers to use their physical strength to impose their will should definitely look like an otherworldly amazon. And that's why I chuckle a bit when I see other Warriors of Light playing as skinny & frail catgirl Monks, or little toddlers hawking around axes & claymores twice their size.

Personally, I always feel like the physique should match the feats the character performs. I don't necessarily think every character should be built like Lebron James or anything, but I think if your character relies specifically on physical strength or speed to be effective, their design should largely reflect that. And in contrast, if your character relies on more strategic planning, or magic of some sort, their design should reflect that as well.

For instance, take Weiss who's also in RWBY.

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She's a summoner who uses a gun-rapier as her weapon (though it's functionally more of a wand), and can materialize glyphs that she can stand on irrespective of gravity. She has more of an "elegant" design to her, in which her average anime girl build works, since she's not reliant on her physique.

Anyways, share some stuff you find pretty cringe when it comes to character designs.
 
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Xenoblade 2: The Thread.

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Rex and Pyra. Just... Rex and Pyra.

(Mythra's original outfit is also bad, but the Smash outfit she got was a massive improvement.)
 
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Xenoblade 2: The Thread.

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Rex and Pyra. Just... Rex and Pyra.

(Mythra's original outfit is also bad, but the Smash outfit she got was a massive improvement.)
Prya's design is actually kinda... tedious, considering what JRPG's tend to get away with when it comes to female character designs. But Rex? I'm irrationally focused on that helmet hoodie & what it could possibly be used for.

Definitely some gross overdesign going on with both, tho.
 

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Prya's design is actually kinda... tedious, considering what JRPG's tend to get away with when it comes to female character designs. But Rex? I'm irrationally focused on that helmet hoodie & what it could possibly be used for.

Definitely some gross overdesign going on with both, tho.
It's a diving suit. He's a salvager.
Edit: obviously if you get into the nitty gritty of real world physics and stuff, it doesn't work as a diving suit as it has a bunch of holes in it. The helmet part is the least of teh issues really
 

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Giving Ruby Rose a more atlethic body would be a nice decision. Looking at that picture feels like the scythe is made of paper
 

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In my head canon, my female midlander WoL has a lot more muscle than the game's slider lets me give her.

Xenoblade 2: The Thread.

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Rex and Pyra. Just... Rex and Pyra.

(Mythra's original outfit is also bad, but the Smash outfit she got was a massive improvement.)
Pyra's ultra micro skirt will never not be the stupidest shit ever.
 

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Unpopular opinion that will get me heat here, but I absolutely loathe sidecuts, regardless of gender too.

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Just think they look ugly as sin.
 

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Honestly, as a former published cartoonist, MOST character designs across both animated and static illustration genres irk me. This probably has to do more with my personal idiosyncrasies that it does the artwork itself, though. Likely being on the spectrum (I've never been "officially" tested), I'm just extraordinarily hard to please with certain things.
 

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Minor Complaint: Adam's horns just look like highlights
Major Complaint: He got branded on the eye? Your 'animal people as stand in for minorities' evil guy got branded? On the eye?! That's the big reveal he's been wearing a mask for?
 
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Minor Complaint: Adam's horns just look like highlights
Major Complaint: He got branded on the eye? Your 'animal people as stand in for minorities' evil guy got branded? On the eye?! That's the big reveal he's been wearing a mask for?
I'm totally down with this turning into a stealth RWBY complaint thread lol.

Schnee Dust Company brand, and never had a single scene with Weiss or the other Schnee's before he was Bumblebee'd. Absolutely pointless addition to his design.
 
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I don't have a specific character in mind but a character design feature that has bugged the hell out of me the last couple years
Two tone designs with 1 solid color and the other part camo.

Sometimes thats fine but for MW19,CW and Vanguard thats like 99% of the designs.
Battlefield started doing it as well
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I don't know why it bothers me so much
 

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It's a diving suit. He's a salvager.
Edit: obviously if you get into the nitty gritty of real world physics and stuff, it doesn't work as a diving suit as it has a bunch of holes in it. The helmet part is the least of teh issues really

There isn't any skin showing when he is actually underwater, like during the intro. So that means he could have kept the "full" salvager suit just fine during the whole game but they decided he should he show skin just because, making his whole design even worse for no good reason. It could have been tolerable if it was just the shoulders and arm, but the legs... why the legs?


Pyra is another stupid design like mentioned. When I did my last playthrough recently, I gave her the alternate outfit just to make the cutscenes a little better. I mean, the alternate costume isn't top tier design, but at least she doesn't look like a prostitute.
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Thankfully, they seem to have learn their lesson for Xenoblade 3.
 

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Any time they out a woman in heels. It's so god damn ugly, impractical and infuriating
 

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This dumb fucking design with the big-ass bow and the anime cutesy face from Tormented Souls.
That goddamn dumbass went into a decrepit asylum, knowing full well that it could be dangerous, and she went in it with the worst possible outfit for the situation.

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I've never seen a character look so out of place in a game before, I hate it so much omg

Edit : Oh and let's not forget that this dip-shit, waste of time of a game probably has the speed-world record of full frontal and totally gratuitous nudity inside a horror "game."
Not only that, there's actually some clothes where she wakes up. But no, that moronic goddamn fool decides to go right back to her shojo-reject lookin-ass joke of an outfit.
 
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This dumb fucking design with the big-ass bow and the anime cutesy face from Tormented Souls.
That goddamn dumbass went into a decrepit asylum, knowing full well that it could be dangerous, and she went in it with the worst possible outfit for the situation.

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I've never seen a character look so out of place in a game before, I hate it so much omg

Edit : Oh and let's not forget that this dip-shit, waste of time of a game probably has the speed-world record of full frontal and totally gratuitous nudity inside a horror "game."
Not only that, there's actually some clothes where she wakes up. But no, that moronic goddamn fool decides to go right back to her shojo-reject lookin-ass joke of an outfit.
This looks like a Steam Greenlight game.
 

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Rise of TMNT designs just rub me the wrong way. If it were any other cartoon, I'd think it's awesome, but I don't like my turtles looking like that.
 

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Shinobu from No more Heroes went from a good design on the first game to an embarrassing one on the second game to this absolute monstrosity in the third game:
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(character I'm referring to is the left one, couldn't find a good image with her alone)
 

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You know what's funny? Rex and Pyra aren't that bad compared to many blades you unlock. Looking at Dahlia and the twin ice blades.

Anyways, not videogame in particular, but fiction in general. Something I really dislike is when female characters are supposed to be fighting, yet they are wearing either a damn skirt (short usually), heels or boots with heels, and many times exposing parts of their bodies. Instead of, you know, pants and clothes that cover also their arms and even shoulders.

One of the worst is Space Battleship Yamato. The male uniform is something a naval crewman would wear. Shirt, pants and shoes. What does the women wear? A tightsuit with heel boots. We all know why they did that, though. I still don't understand why I didn't drop it.
 

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Women in video games the thread, though we have that thread already.
 
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98% of female's character design in games and anime/comics irks me. I can't watch/play most of them because of it. My brother used to play Dragon's Crown all day, as the sorceress :


 

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For me it's the character designs (specifically, not the art) of PPPPPP:

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it's mostly a combination of the wild proportions and hair that just extremely irks me.
 

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Claire's classic costume in RE2 Remake

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The black undershirt is a tanktop for some reason? It should be a turtle neck, and they got rid of her gloves

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Her default costume is good but sometimes I want the 90's nonsense, and they did a good job with Leon
 

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The Major's character design for GitS 2045. She can always remain somewhat the same or younger thanks to prosthetics, but the execution here is horrible.

Ilya Kuvshinov, never again.

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*shrugs* I've always thought the anime trope OP is talking about was pretty cool.

99% of media shows strong characters looking big and physically strong - I think it's cool to subvert that sometimes.
 

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Unpopular opinion that will get me heat here, but I absolutely loathe sidecuts, regardless of gender too.

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Just think they look ugly as sin.
I don't hate them, the problem is that it's the default haircut given to any woman who is meant to be a badass. It is so generic and overdone at this point.
 

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Large reason as to why I havent played this game. They should just use different flavors of lightning as a protagonist forever.

Other large reason its that its a long ass game.
*shrugs* I've always thought the anime trope OP is talking about was pretty cool.

99% of media shows strong characters looking big and physically strong - I think it's cool to subvert that sometimes.
Yeah I think so too. I think the silhouettes end up better with non-muscly characters too.
Pyra's ultra micro skirt will never not be the stupidest shit ever.
Theyre ultra mini shorts actually
 

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i know the word generic gets used a little too much but i struggle to get into manga/anime that have very plain designs with no great art direction(see more or less every isekai show with the same black haired protagonist).

The most recent one that comes to mind in Tonikawa: FLy me to the Moon. Just the epitome of bland looking anime people with the only differentiating factor being what shade of multicolor is their hair.
 
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It's a diving suit. He's a salvager.
Edit: obviously if you get into the nitty gritty of real world physics and stuff, it doesn't work as a diving suit as it has a bunch of holes in it. The helmet part is the least of teh issues really

He's not going underwater though, he's going into the cloud sea. Made up magic thick gas stuff, I dunno.
 

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Almost everything done by Monolith Software. It's just so cringey. It's one reason why I don't play their games anymore despite having excellent world designers.
 

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Latex suits with belly buttons on the suit will trigger me 100% of the time. Can't be assed to look it up right now but I'll edit one into my post on my break or something.
 
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Anytime I see this lazy shit. ESPECIALLY when the surrounding universe and logic has no precedent.

No, the MCU does not count in this critique, Tony spent a decade of movies building up to his nano, in a universe where aliens with superior tech had already invaded or joined his team.
 

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The Major's character design for GitS 2045. She can always remain somewhat the same or younger thanks to prosthetics, but the execution here is horrible.

Ilya Kuvshinov, never again.

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Yup, 2045 don't exist for me. Her design is just amongst many other reasons.

This hurts because this IP is the reason why I got into my field in the first place.
 

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Out of all the costumes from Xena, Mavican's outfit looked the most ridiculous. And it was just one offense that brought down the character including the acting and competency.

Adding to that, Baiken from Guilty Gear and King and King from KOF's later designs to enhance their chests.
 

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I feel like you can probably just link the entirety of the Why Women Criticize Sexualized Character Design thread and it would fill in a majority of what's going to show up in this thread.