Character designs that put you off from wanting to play a game

Pankratous

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Oct 26, 2017
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Characters in Gears of War. So big and bulky. Absolutely ridiculous. It's annoying because otherwise I think the games look decent.
 

Nine

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sorry, Parfait, but Star Ocean 5. Love the series despite all its drawbacks, but couldn’t get more than 30 minutes into 5. I might try again one day but it’s the first time I’ve ever regret buying a game digitally lol.
 

Parfait

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Oct 25, 2017
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Piss, I mentioned I prefer anime designs but there are those that i absolutely loathe that fall under those, and it's Dangan Ronpa and Ni no Kuni. I'd rather play a compile heart game*, and while those barely count as games they at least look better than Dangan Ronpa's 'high school but cool' and 'i hope you really like ghibli's weird little mascot characters, the game, the sequel**'.

*Okay maybe I went too far, I wouldn't actually play a Compile Heart, Gust, etc game because even their really cute designs can't offset the amazingly low-tier gameplay that's literally put me to sleep and some of the most phoned-in animations i've had to witness. Disgaea/N1's series has a more unique and cute artstyle and then follows up with enjoyable gameplay.

**The ghibli artstyle has always put me off for some reason, and I'm not sure why. I always disliked whatever small critter character would be present in a movie, though. The movies, as a whole, are really good though.
 

Silky

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Oct 25, 2017
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I definitely think Blazblue is Arc System Works' nadir in terms of character design. There are a few designs I like (Taokaka) but a huge number of them are so messy or cliche that they're instantly unappealing to me.

After Night In-Birth may not be my personal cup of tea, but it has a far better look than Blazblue.
Yeah French Bread has some great characterization

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Senran Kagura's designs kind of suck too but that's okay because the gameplay of those titles are way worse than the character design, so I can see why people like that aspect mostly
 

Parfait

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Oct 25, 2017
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That gif and a lot of the game's animations are motion captured, it just looks terrible because they have these grown ass adults trying to imitate anime mannerisms and then they put that onto a poorly proportioned anime model.
No... nooooo....

That's literally the opposite of what they should be doing then! Hand animate that stuff! Houseki no Kuni has better animation!
 

jett

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Insert random Japanese loli. I find those types of characters completely abhorrent.

The character designs in general in the Xenoblade games also greatly put me off from giving them a try.
 
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Silky

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Oct 25, 2017
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LOL I thought Under Night In Birth was by Arc System Works. No wonder it looks so much better than their recent character designs.
Arc Sys Works is only the publisher I believe.

It's even Wilder because FB made fucking Melty Blood before UNIB and that game is (or used to be, looks better now) a fucking visual vomit pile
 

Koozek

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Oct 25, 2017
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I haven't played Final Fantasy 15 so I'm speaking from a purely aesthetic perspective. Design-wise those are pretty nice. They are embellished with details but not egregiously ornate like most of Nomura's other designs. For what they are, it seems to evoke a lot of Japanese street-style and boy groups in the clothing of the characters themselves; and, all of those in the picture have color schemes that inherently tie each of them together.
The clothes were designed completely by the Japanese fashion label Roen (fun fact I just remembered: they were the first ones to accidentally have leaked the name change from Versus XIII to FFXV on their website back then before the E3 '13 reveal).

Here's their FFXV lookbook: chloesan.com/en/

Dude on the left designed them:
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Arc Sys Works is only the publisher I believe.

It's even Wilder because FB made fucking Melty Blood before UNIB and that game is (or used to be, looks better now) a fucking visual vomit pile
Seriously, they do great work.

Like compare this design



To this design



They're both similar concepts (busty light-haired woman in an elegant white and black dress), but Hilda's design is so much cleaner, more striking, and less tacky than Elphelt's.

They're both "anime", but one shows a much better understanding of visual conveyance.
 
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Death Penalty

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Oct 27, 2017
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I would actually say that Velvet's outfit actively detracts from the plot. She's supposed to be a convict on the run, but is wearing an outfit that anyone would recognize. None of the people that escaped the prison with her are wearing rags. Thankfully, you can change her into another costume right away.
Appreciate the expansion on this, as it's exactly the sort of thing I worry about when I see designs like this. It won't keep me from playing the game, but I wouldn't say it's a bright point in its favor.
 

PSqueak

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Oct 25, 2017
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Blizzard being coy about a homosexual character in the roster for months only to have a reveal that came off as BAM, OUR SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE CHARACTER IS ALSO A HOT LESBIAN WITH A HOT LESBIAN PARTNER had me less than enthralled with the execution, sorry.
If this is how you felt the comic came off as, frankly i don't know what to tell you.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
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No... nooooo....

That's literally the opposite of what they should be doing then! Hand animate that stuff! Houseki no Kuni has better animation!
I assume they use motion capture so that they get faster results, motion capture involves animators, what you're seeing is always the end result of an animation team polishing up the data they got from the mocap. Its just that motion capture on those types of character models always tends to look incredibly terrible even when the actors are trying their damndest to act like anime character. It's not just Star Ocean either, games like Xenoblade and Tales of all suffer from the same exact issue.
 

Rickenslacker

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If this is how you felt the comic came off as, frankly i don't know what to tell you.
I just said it's more than the comic, but their handling of it prior to as well. You don't need to tell me anything, if you feel different, whoopee. This was a thread for letting out personal character grievances, that one's mine. I don't need an argument out of it.
 

jett

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Xenoblade Chronicles 2.


Funny thing is, FFXV simultaneously has the worst main character designs with the young versions and also some of the best in the series with the adult versions of them:




It's really unfortunate they didn't dtich even more of Nomura's ideas and designs when making FFXV.
 

Hirok2099

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Oct 27, 2017
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Tracer. I mean there are other designs there that I don't like that I can tolerate, and I could tolerate her if not for the fact that they plaster her everywhere and treat her like some special snowflake when she's just a vapid nothing character defined by her ass, an annoying catchphrase, and a shoehorned sexuality.
The hell?
In your opinion can any character be attracted to the same sex without it being a publicity stunt?
 

Hirok2099

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Oct 27, 2017
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Xenoblade Chronicles 2.


Funny thing is, FFXV simultaneously has the worst main character designs with the young versions and also some of the best in the series with the adult versions of them:
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I wonder if your opinion would have been the same if the game had came out when you were say 12 to 15 years old
 
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petran79

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Oct 27, 2017
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Any anime game, except games where Gainax was involved, eg Princess Maker series. I like that art.



But I couldnt stand the art in games like House in Fata Morgana and many fighting games

Also any Western military fps. Any realistic sports game. Any fighter like MK and Injustice.Characters look even more unsettling than anime. Only exception is Killer Instinct.
 

Rickenslacker

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The hell?
In your opinion can any character be attracted to the same sex without it being a publicity stunt?
Absolutely. I mean, I've disliked the character well prior to that, so don't get hung up on just the last point, I just found their handling of it clumsy and only further added spotlight to a character that was already burning with the intensity of the sun in spotlight. If you want a character of a similar timeframe in another shooter that I enjoyed and found well executed in that respect, it would be Jessica Kandel from The Division. If you want a more recent example, it would be Morgan Yu in Prey.
 

Hirok2099

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Oct 27, 2017
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Absolutely. I mean, I've disliked the character well prior to that, so don't get hung up on just the last point, I just found their handling of it clumsy and only further added spotlight to a character that was already burning with the intensity of the sun in spotlight. If you want a character of a similar timeframe in another shooter that I enjoyed and found well executed in that respect, it would be Jessica Kandel from The Division. If you want a more recent example, it would be Morgan Yu in Prey.
But you claim there is nothing that defines the character and then you claim that her being lesbian makes no sense. Is almost like you are saying there has to be something different or even dare I say abnormal about a person for her to be homosexual.
I guess I mean to say why can't a normal, boring person be boring and gay?
 

incogneato

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It's really unfortunate they didn't dtich even more of Nomura's ideas and designs when making FFXV.
Meh. I don't appreciate them making the characters look more Anglo when they're adults compared to their more classical Japanese bishi looks when they were younger.
 

Mr Spasiba

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Oct 26, 2017
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Seriously, they do great work.

Like compare this design

To this design

They're both similar concepts (busty light-haired woman in an elegant white and black dress), but Hilda's design is so much cleaner, more striking, and less tacky than Elphelt's.

They're both "anime", but one shows a much better understanding of visual conveyance.
They’re not really going for the same thing at all beyond big boobs and a white dress, which isn’t exactly a narrow set of criteria in anime designs.
 

Rickenslacker

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But you claim there is nothing that defines the character and then you claim that her being lesbian makes no sense. Is almost like you are saying there has to be something different or even dare I say abnormal about a person for her to be homosexual.
I guess I mean to say why can't a normal, boring person be boring and gay?
No, I am saying she is an empty character with very shallow characteristics. That reveal came after the fact and my response is more regarding the handling leading up to that along with it already being a character shoved everywhere.
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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They’re not really going for the same thing at all beyond big boobs and a white dress, which isn’t exactly a narrow set of criteria in anime designs.
I guess, but I feel it's still a good showcase of the different design aesthetics at work. And you see the same general trends when you compare other Under Night In-Birth characters to other new Arc System Works characters.

French Bread just seems to have a better grasp on what makes a sleek and visually distinct character design. It's a skill that Arc System Works seems to have mostly lost.
 

Koozek

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sorry about that,
Do you think your you would have had the same opinion about the older characters being the better designed ones if the game had came out when you were 12 or 15 years old?
That's a good point actually because I think I would have loved Young Noctis and his Anime hair, yeah, and maybe you could argue that FF has always been targeting younger audiences, but I'd say it's time to target an a bit older audience at this point with designs that adults don't cringe at and younger folks would also find cool - and I think the older designs in FFXV would've managed that very well; not too gruff and tough, but also not too Anime. Would love to see more designs like that or also FFXII's Bash in FFXVI.
 

Hirok2099

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Oct 27, 2017
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No, I am saying she is an empty character with very shallow characteristics. That reveal came after the fact and my response is more regarding the handling leading up to that along with it already being a character shoved everywhere.
I still don't see how either her being shallow or her being shoved everywhere has anything to do with her sexual preferences tho. Like I don't get why her being gay would bother you at all. Is there anything on her personality/character design that screams "I'm Straight" ?
When yo say her sexuality is shoehorned it sounds very close to when my dad put's down other people's different sexuality by calling it a "Cry for attention"
 

rucury

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gonna be Xenoblade Chronicles 2 for me. Literally the art style is what most put me off from buying the game. In general, I'm starting to move away from anime-like art styles. I dunno, besides the fact that I am seriously put off by characters like Pyra or Tharja from FE, I guess I always feel embarrassed while playing them. Like if someone walked in and Pyra was on screen I'd go "uuuhhhh I can explain".
 

Rickenslacker

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I still don't see how either her being shallow or her being shoved everywhere has anything to do with her sexual preferences tho. Like I don't get why her being gay would bother you at all. Is there anything on her personality/character design that screams "I'm Straight" ?
When yo say her sexuality is shoehorned it sounds very close to when my dad put's down other people's different sexuality by calling it a "Cry for attention"
Alright man, you're a bit too fixated on that point and I've already listed contemporary examples that I do like and have said that I've disliked it before then and didn't find the method well handled. If you just wanna angle this in ways to call me a bigot just get to it and let's move on.
 

Crayon

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hate to dogpile on xbc2 but those pants are a legit eyesore.

And yeah the gears of wars guys are pretty funny looking.
 

Crossing Eden

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Neat thing about the Gears cast is that unlike so many other designs ITT they're purposefully off putting and ugly.
 

HypedBeast

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I guess, but I feel it's still a good showcase of the different design aesthetics at work. And you see the same general trends when you compare other Under Night In-Birth characters to other new Arc System Works characters.

French Bread just seems to have a better grasp on what makes a sleek and visually distinct character design. It's a skill that Arc System Works seems to have mostly lost.
I can kind of see what you mean by sleek and streamlined, but UNIB has the same issue as Melty Blood, that being the character designs are really generic and indistinct.

It really seems like it's "Not Persona 4" mixed in with basic anime tropes, I don't see how these are better in anyway than Guilty Gear.



(Not Iori, please don't sue.)


 
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TheDave545

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Nov 4, 2017
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Pretty much most anime, stuff like loli and Waifu (if these are the same thing then I apologize, not clued up 100% on the terms).

At times I sit there and think.......how does this appeal to anyone, almost naked anime guys and girls that look no older than around early teens in scantily clad armour and/or school uniforms....wtf?

Don't get me started on the ridiculousness of the hair styles.
 

Uthred

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Oct 25, 2017
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Bland generic fantasy tends to put me off these days, whether that's bland generic "Western" fantasy e.g. the Elder Scrolls aesthetic, or bland generic "Japanese" fantasy, or a bland generic mix of both e.g. a lot of Dark Souls 3

*googles Made in Abyss

Stuff like this being "acclaimed" is why I struggle to watch anime these days.
I'm confused, you can't watch an entire medium because western reviewers critically acclaimed a show with horror elements that involves children? Do you find it similarly difficult to read books because horror stories involving children have been critically acclaimed? Or to watch films for the same reason? The idea that you find it hard to watch anything in a particular medium, because one show in a particular genre within that medium got good critical reviews strikes me as rather bizarre. I'm not a big fan of torture porn films, but I don't "struggle" to watch Citizen Kane because Saw exists.
 

Snormy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anime-ing Star Ocean 2 portraits. I much prefer the old appearance.



I also really disliked Soul Sacrifice's costume designs for the most part. It felt very fetishy.


-_-
 

Manu

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Oct 27, 2017
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I liked Horizon but I admit that I was iffy on the artstyle at first, and even on Aloy. While at first I couldn't place exactly why, I now think it's because there are too many white characters, Aloy included, who look like they are cosplaying indigenous cultures. While they ARE indigenous people in the game's story, I couldn't shake off that feeling of "Aloy (or another character) looks like a caucasian model pretending to be a Native American." It got better once you know why this is.