Characters in Gears of War. So big and bulky. Absolutely ridiculous. It's annoying because otherwise I think the games look decent.
Yeah French Bread has some great characterizationI definitely think Blazblue is Arc System Works' nadir in terms of character design. There are a few designs I like (Taokaka) but a huge number of them are so messy or cliche that they're instantly unappealing to me.
After Night In-Birth may not be my personal cup of tea, but it has a far better look than Blazblue.
LOL I thought Under Night In Birth was by Arc System Works. No wonder it looks so much better than their recent character designs.
No... nooooo....That gif and a lot of the game's animations are motion captured, it just looks terrible because they have these grown ass adults trying to imitate anime mannerisms and then they put that onto a poorly proportioned anime model.
Arc Sys Works is only the publisher I believe.LOL I thought Under Night In Birth was by Arc System Works. No wonder it looks so much better than their recent character designs.
The clothes were designed completely by the Japanese fashion label Roen (fun fact I just remembered: they were the first ones to accidentally have leaked the name change from Versus XIII to FFXV on their website back then before the E3 '13 reveal).I haven't played Final Fantasy 15 so I'm speaking from a purely aesthetic perspective. Design-wise those are pretty nice. They are embellished with details but not egregiously ornate like most of Nomura's other designs. For what they are, it seems to evoke a lot of Japanese street-style and boy groups in the clothing of the characters themselves; and, all of those in the picture have color schemes that inherently tie each of them together.
People like to shit on Ken's face but he actually looks good in-game.
Seriously, they do great work.Arc Sys Works is only the publisher I believe.
It's even Wilder because FB made fucking Melty Blood before UNIB and that game is (or used to be, looks better now) a fucking visual vomit pile
He should've had one of the characters rocking that look.
Great, even. They would've saved themselves a lot of grief by just having 2D portraits in character select. The world was not ready for realtime character models.People like to shit on Ken's face but he actually looks good in-game.
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Appreciate the expansion on this, as it's exactly the sort of thing I worry about when I see designs like this. It won't keep me from playing the game, but I wouldn't say it's a bright point in its favor.I would actually say that Velvet's outfit actively detracts from the plot. She's supposed to be a convict on the run, but is wearing an outfit that anyone would recognize. None of the people that escaped the prison with her are wearing rags. Thankfully, you can change her into another costume right away.
If this is how you felt the comic came off as, frankly i don't know what to tell you.Blizzard being coy about a homosexual character in the roster for months only to have a reveal that came off as BAM, OUR SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE CHARACTER IS ALSO A HOT LESBIAN WITH A HOT LESBIAN PARTNER had me less than enthralled with the execution, sorry.
I assume they use motion capture so that they get faster results, motion capture involves animators, what you're seeing is always the end result of an animation team polishing up the data they got from the mocap. Its just that motion capture on those types of character models always tends to look incredibly terrible even when the actors are trying their damndest to act like anime character. It's not just Star Ocean either, games like Xenoblade and Tales of all suffer from the same exact issue.No... nooooo....
That's literally the opposite of what they should be doing then! Hand animate that stuff! Houseki no Kuni has better animation!
I just said it's more than the comic, but their handling of it prior to as well. You don't need to tell me anything, if you feel different, whoopee. This was a thread for letting out personal character grievances, that one's mine. I don't need an argument out of it.If this is how you felt the comic came off as, frankly i don't know what to tell you.
It's really unfortunate they didn't dtich even more of Nomura's ideas and designs when making FFXV.Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Funny thing is, FFXV simultaneously has the worst main character designs with the young versions and also some of the best in the series with the adult versions of them:
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The hell?Tracer. I mean there are other designs there that I don't like that I can tolerate, and I could tolerate her if not for the fact that they plaster her everywhere and treat her like some special snowflake when she's just a vapid nothing character defined by her ass, an annoying catchphrase, and a shoehorned sexuality.
What a shitpost!God forbid showing a girl who doesn't look like a supermodel (or a loli)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Funny thing is, FFXV simultaneously has the worst main character designs with the young versions and also some of the best in the series with the adult versions of them:
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I wonder if your opinion would have been the same if the game had came out when you were say 12 to 15 years old
Absolutely. I mean, I've disliked the character well prior to that, so don't get hung up on just the last point, I just found their handling of it clumsy and only further added spotlight to a character that was already burning with the intensity of the sun in spotlight. If you want a character of a similar timeframe in another shooter that I enjoyed and found well executed in that respect, it would be Jessica Kandel from The Division. If you want a more recent example, it would be Morgan Yu in Prey.The hell?
In your opinion can any character be attracted to the same sex without it being a publicity stunt?
Sorry about that,
But you claim there is nothing that defines the character and then you claim that her being lesbian makes no sense. Is almost like you are saying there has to be something different or even dare I say abnormal about a person for her to be homosexual.Absolutely. I mean, I've disliked the character well prior to that, so don't get hung up on just the last point, I just found their handling of it clumsy and only further added spotlight to a character that was already burning with the intensity of the sun in spotlight. If you want a character of a similar timeframe in another shooter that I enjoyed and found well executed in that respect, it would be Jessica Kandel from The Division. If you want a more recent example, it would be Morgan Yu in Prey.
The really crappy thing is if you add a shirt to his design it looks a thousand times better.Vaan of FF12 is really bad
But nothing keeps me from playing a FF
Meh. I don't appreciate them making the characters look more Anglo when they're adults compared to their more classical Japanese bishi looks when they were younger.It's really unfortunate they didn't dtich even more of Nomura's ideas and designs when making FFXV.
They’re not really going for the same thing at all beyond big boobs and a white dress, which isn’t exactly a narrow set of criteria in anime designs.Seriously, they do great work.
Like compare this design
To this design
They're both similar concepts (busty light-haired woman in an elegant white and black dress), but Hilda's design is so much cleaner, more striking, and less tacky than Elphelt's.
They're both "anime", but one shows a much better understanding of visual conveyance.
No, I am saying she is an empty character with very shallow characteristics. That reveal came after the fact and my response is more regarding the handling leading up to that along with it already being a character shoved everywhere.But you claim there is nothing that defines the character and then you claim that her being lesbian makes no sense. Is almost like you are saying there has to be something different or even dare I say abnormal about a person for her to be homosexual.
I guess I mean to say why can't a normal, boring person be boring and gay?
I guess, but I feel it's still a good showcase of the different design aesthetics at work. And you see the same general trends when you compare other Under Night In-Birth characters to other new Arc System Works characters.They’re not really going for the same thing at all beyond big boobs and a white dress, which isn’t exactly a narrow set of criteria in anime designs.
That's a good point actually because I think I would have loved Young Noctis and his Anime hair, yeah, and maybe you could argue that FF has always been targeting younger audiences, but I'd say it's time to target an a bit older audience at this point with designs that adults don't cringe at and younger folks would also find cool - and I think the older designs in FFXV would've managed that very well; not too gruff and tough, but also not too Anime. Would love to see more designs like that or also FFXII's Bash in FFXVI.Sorry about that,
Do you think your you would have had the same opinion about the older characters being the better designed ones if the game had came out when you were 12 or 15 years old?
I still don't see how either her being shallow or her being shoved everywhere has anything to do with her sexual preferences tho. Like I don't get why her being gay would bother you at all. Is there anything on her personality/character design that screams "I'm Straight" ?No, I am saying she is an empty character with very shallow characteristics. That reveal came after the fact and my response is more regarding the handling leading up to that along with it already being a character shoved everywhere.
Alright man, you're a bit too fixated on that point and I've already listed contemporary examples that I do like and have said that I've disliked it before then and didn't find the method well handled. If you just wanna angle this in ways to call me a bigot just get to it and let's move on.I still don't see how either her being shallow or her being shoved everywhere has anything to do with her sexual preferences tho. Like I don't get why her being gay would bother you at all. Is there anything on her personality/character design that screams "I'm Straight" ?
When yo say her sexuality is shoehorned it sounds very close to when my dad put's down other people's different sexuality by calling it a "Cry for attention"
LMFAO. Makes for a good anti-drug campaign
Yeah someone gifted me this game and its sequel two years ago and I still have yet to play them because this giant slab of meat is on the cover
I can kind of see what you mean by sleek and streamlined, but UNIB has the same issue as Melty Blood, that being the character designs are really generic and indistinct.I guess, but I feel it's still a good showcase of the different design aesthetics at work. And you see the same general trends when you compare other Under Night In-Birth characters to other new Arc System Works characters.
French Bread just seems to have a better grasp on what makes a sleek and visually distinct character design. It's a skill that Arc System Works seems to have mostly lost.
I'm confused, you can't watch an entire medium because western reviewers critically acclaimed a show with horror elements that involves children? Do you find it similarly difficult to read books because horror stories involving children have been critically acclaimed? Or to watch films for the same reason? The idea that you find it hard to watch anything in a particular medium, because one show in a particular genre within that medium got good critical reviews strikes me as rather bizarre. I'm not a big fan of torture porn films, but I don't "struggle" to watch Citizen Kane because Saw exists.*googles Made in Abyss
Stuff like this being "acclaimed" is why I struggle to watch anime these days.