Chelsea Clinton being accosted in public by NYU students blaming her for the New Zealand massacre

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signal

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Any back story? What's the "rhetroric that [chelsea clinton] put out there" that the girl is talking about?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Who cares, it's a 20 year edgelord who will grow out of it.

The only weird thing about this situation is all the popular Socialists on Twitter immediately going to defend the student for saying that Clinton caused the NZ attack and that Israel doesn't have the right to exist.

Like... You guys are fucking weird.

They disturb me a lot more than this 20 year old because those guys are like 35, they're not going to change at this point...

But they're like 10k people total and they're all pretending to be poor to get internet cred and they barely exist in real life so who cares either really.

Pretty non event, 20 year olds gonna dumb sometimes and internet Socialist edgelords gonna hate the Clintons for eating crackers.
 
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Apparently it took place at a vigil for the mosque shooting victims.
 

Apeach

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"civility"

I'm not saying Chelsea deserves it, but the people rushing to her defense are weird. It's an emotional time and place, just let it go. The woman is apparently getting harassed on social media now.
 

Sibersk Esto

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wait what

why

was she name dropped in the manifesto?
Any back story? What's the "rhetroric that [chelsea clinton] put out there" that the girl is talking about?
Whats the connection here exactly?
any more context OP? this story is a bit out of the left field
Accused Omar of anti semitism
 
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"civility"

I'm not saying Chelsea deserves it, but the people rushing to her defense are weird. It's an emotional time and place, just let it go. The woman is apparently getting harassed on social media now.
I think it's partially because they were asking for donations to their venmo accounts when they posted the video online.

 

Ichthyosaurus

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"civility"

I'm not saying Chelsea deserves it, but the people rushing to her defense are weird. It's an emotional time and place, just let it go. The woman is apparently getting harassed on social media now.
Let me get this straight, you don't see a problem with harassing a pregnant woman who also happens to be Chelsea Clinton? Is it really that hard to condemn harassment, period?
 
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any more context OP? this story is a bit out of the left field
1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.


It was a little gross by the student but who cares she's 20.
 

Apeach

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I think it's partially because they were asking for donations to their venmo accounts when they posted the video online.

Ok, that's pretty dumb.
Let me get this straight, you don't see a problem with harassing a pregnant woman who also happens to be Chelsea Clinton? Is it really that hard to condemn harassment, period?
I don't think she should be harassed, but I can also understand that this is a very emotional time. There's a larger context here.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Ok, that's pretty dumb.

I don't think she should be harassed, but I can also understand that this is a very emotional time.
I mean, it was an emotional time, but the woman was also cutting a promo at an event for mourning.

Like she was decked out in a Bernie shirt while purposefully trying to make viral content.

Like... 49 people were just shot to death.

You can do this at another time.
 

Quixzlizx

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Ok, that's pretty dumb.

I don't think she should be harassed, but I can also understand that this is a very emotional time. There's a larger context here.
If it's a very emotional time, then I guess you shouldn't be calling out the people harassing this woman on social media, either.
 

spineduke

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1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.


It was a little gross by the student but who cares she's 20.
Wow, thanks.
 

danm999

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1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.


It was a little gross by the student but who cares she's 20.
Good summary.
 

Zerokoolpsx

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1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.


It was a little gross by the student but who cares she's 20.
This really helps.
 

sphagnum

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I think it's partially because they were asking for donations to their venmo accounts when they posted the video online.

Pretty sure the donations thing was from a fake account.



And I would hope anyone who was upset over the TYT debacle a few weeks back is equally outraged at the threats and harassment the two young women involved here are facing. Frankly I think it's ridiculous to say that Chelsea was "harassed" because someone spoke angrily at her. I'm not going to tell a Palestinian woman what is and is not right to feel in this time of extreme tension, or say I know better than her about what is and is not Islamophobia, or say that I know better than her what kind of rhetoric does or does not add to danger for people like her.

Is Chelsea responsible? No, the terrorist was very clear about his influences. Do I think this young woman is somehow an awful person for flipping out? Absolutely not.
 

coconut milk

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How on earth is that harrassment. Looks like a heated conversation to me.

And younger people on twitter throwing up their venmo/cashapp after they go viral is kinda a meme at this point
 
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Pretty sure the donations thing was from a fake account.




And I would hope anyone who was upset over the TYT debacle a few weeks back is equally outraged at the threats and harassment the two young women involved here are facing. Frankly I think it's ridiculous to say that Chelsea was "harassed" because someone spoke angrily at her. I'm not going to tell a Palestinian woman what is and is not right to feel in this time of extreme tension.
She was cutting a promo at a funeral...
 

Apeach

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If it's a very emotional time, then I guess you shouldn't be calling out the people harassing this woman on social media, either.
I don't think anyone should be harassed. I'm saying that I'm willing to overlook anything stupid said or done by the woman since this is an emotional time. It seems Chelsea did the same, so good on her.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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You shouldn't harass the woman for being a dumb 20 year old... She's 20.

Probably shouldn't try to get famous by yelling at a celebrity mourning 49 dead.
 

Tukarrs

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1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.


It was a little gross by the student but who cares she's 20.
5-7 is wrong. The poster of the video was not the person confronting CC. Her friend decided to post it up.

 

coconut milk

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1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.


It was a little gross by the student but who cares she's 20.
lol 90% of this is bullshit

 
Oct 26, 2017
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5-7 is wrong. The poster of the video was not the person confronting CC. Her friend decided to post it up.

Please stop posting tweets from these random online lunatics who pretend to be in the struggle to be cool Socialists.

The idea that Clinton "incited" this is a delusion.

A lot of liberal Jews were genuinely uncomfortable with Omar saying that Israel was well liked because of money... She probably shouldn't say that.
 

sphagnum

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She was cutting a promo at a funeral...
You're going to have to explain this to me, because someone recording an argument is not "cutting a promo". I didn't see the real account before she deleted it due to harassment, just screenshots that others took of some of her posts. Was there something else? Because one of the accounts was a fake (this one):

 

MrGerbils

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Please stop posting tweets from these random online lunatics who pretend to be in the struggle to be cool Socialists.

The idea that Clinton "incited" this is a delusion.

A lot of liberal Jews were genuinely uncomfortable with Omar saying that Israel was well liked because of money... She probably shouldn't say that.

The more you reply with the same BS, the worse you look.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The more you reply with the same BS, the worse you look.
The idea is that Chelsea Clinton caused something that was 99% done by the right wing.

No one in the GOP has ever listened to Chelsea Clinton about anything.

The only thing people who care about Chelsea Clinton did was mildly rebuke Omar and say they didn't like her anymore.

This idea is really stupid.

And people who believe it are extremely stupid.

The step further that this caused an 8chan NeoNazi to murder 49 Muslims is obviously dumb but the original argument from edgelords online should not be overlooked in its stupidity.
 

coconut milk

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Literally the entire argument from the woman in the video is about Ilhan Omar.

How are we supposed to not go over this again in the thread.
No it's about whether or not Chelsea and the rest of the racist, islamaphobic gang in the media/politics who wrongfully attacked Ilhan to protect their shady dealings with AIPAC caused any of this.
 
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No it's about whether or not Chelsea and the rest of the racist, islamaphobic gang who wrongfully attacked Ilhan to protect their shady dealings with AIPAC caused any of this.
Okay so

They didn't.

Then I guess there's nothing left to discuss.

Also, someone who says "Israel has no right to exist" is... not someone I trust to analyze Antisemitism.

My two cents.
 

MrGerbils

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The idea is that Chelsea Clinton caused something that was 99% done by the right wing.

No one in the GOP has ever listened to Chelsea Clinton about anything.

The only thing people who care about Chelsea Clinton did was mildly rebuke Omar and say they didn't like her anymore.

This idea is really stupid.

And people who believe it are extremely stupid.

The step further that this caused an 8chan NeoNazi to murder 49 Muslims is obviously dumb but the original argument from edgelords online should not be overlooked in its stupidity.
An attempt to repurpose edgelord to mean progressive and to try to frame all progressive thinking as being youthful ignorance goes way beyond stupidity.
 

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1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.
this is such a great* summary!

*transparently disingenuous

chelsea clinton is a trust fund baby that has felt entitled to everything she wanted her entire life, and here she felt entitled to walk into a group of mourning muslims weeks after cynically, spuriously charging the only muslim congresswoman with anti-semitism, something she has zero authority on

mourning muslim woman overreacted

more at 11
 

ZiggyPalffyLA

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1. Chelsea said that Ilhan Omar was using Anti-semitic language.
2. This was followed by a lot of similar language so online edgelords confused causality and assumed that Chelsea Clinton caused this.
3. The use of Anti-semitic tropes by Omar was criticized more harshly than say a Republican doing so so it was hypocritical and partially caused by being a Muslim. However, some on the far left claimed that any criticism of her using Anti-semitic tropes was Islamaphobia.
4. Terrorist in New Zealand kills 49 Muslims.
5. 20 year old Bernie Stan decides she could get famous and make some money attacking Clinton.
6. Says that Clinton criticizing Ilhan Omar helped cause this terror attack.
7. She posts the video online and posts asking for money.


It was a little gross by the student but who cares she's 20.
This is misleading, mostly incorrect, and a bad faith explanation to people honestly looking for answers.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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An attempt to repurpose edgelord to mean progressive and to try to frame all progressive thinking as being youthful ignorance goes way beyond stupidity.
Okay so

Claiming that Chelsea Clinton caused the GOP to attack Ilhan Omar is stupidity.

Claiming that Chelsea Clinton caused a New Zealand shooter to kill 49 Muslims is stupidity that is so stupid it boarders on being an edgelord.

Claiming that Israel doesn't have the right to exist is bigotry dressed up in edgelord nonsense.

These are not progressive ideas, these are ideas about how Chelsea Clinton is the most persuasive person in the world which are dumb as shit.
 

BADMAN

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So an islamic student confronted Clinton for not being a real ally to the islamic people and she made her point and it's a valid one. Seems like the only reason this is a story is because journalists saw an opportunity to frame the situation as progressives being irrational idiots.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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So an islamic student confronted Clinton for not being a real ally to the islamic people and she made her point and it's a valid one. Seems like the only reason this is a story is because journalists saw an opportunity to frame the situation as progressives being irrational idiots.
How did Chelsea Clinton help influence a NeoNazi who hated her to commit mass murders by sending two or three mild tweets about Ilhan Omar.

Also, the woman is clearly a dumb edgelord for saying Israel has no right to exist.

But she'll probably grow out of it.
 
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