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Chelsea Clinton being accosted in public by NYU students blaming her for the New Zealand massacre
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You went from this to "wiping off the map"?It was on her now deleted Instagram.
But she's really young so I don't care that much... But I think she's a super dumb edgelord right now.
Did you misread my post accidentally or on purpose.
Where does Chelsea Clinton try to get in the news.
She sent like two tweets about Ilhan Omar... She was barely involved in the controversy at all.
Shit, that's tame.
I doubt most politicians would even recognize Palestine, add that and the dailly atrocities commited to the Palestinians and I wouldn't want to give them any form of recognition either.
Is it morally wrong to say that "this woman who thinks that Israel should not exist is a probably an anti-semitic edgelord"
Should I just say that she's an edgelord without proving evidence and then have 30 people ask "but where's the evidence, checkmate."
And I just used the direct quote function... You edited your post later.
Dude you're nuts. Communists are neonazis what? Bibi Netanyahu and most the government of Israel are fascist warmongers. They are expansionists. How can you deny that?
GlobalResearch.ca is an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist website that only completely insane people use.
This is literally on their front page right now.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/peace-democracy/5670989
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Some of the Lies are foundational to the "War on Terror", which itself is a lie. Al Qaeda, for example, is not responsible for the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings. To believe so would be to believe in miracles, fairy tales. It is a fabricated "belief" instilled in us by those who are criminally misgoverning us, those who seek to create evidence-free "truths" to serve their nefarious, anti-democratic agendas.
Al Qaeda is a scapegoat being used to protect the real culprits who in fact use al Qaeda as "strategic tools/proxies" to destroy non-belligerent countries such as Syria, all in the name of going after ISIS, which are also "strategic tools/proxies"[1]."
Had she said this statement instead this thread wouldn't exist because there's nothing controversial about that.
Chelsea Clinton will be fine. The students, in the mean time, have drawn the media upon them in what looks like a hit job (thus diluting their message) and indirectly hurt Bernie himself. The media is the media, and it wouldn't take a genius to figure out an angle on this to make Chelsea look good from the footage. All she does is meekly apologise over and over. How is this helping their cause?
The nearest thing that I can possibly sqeeze from my head right now is that Chelsea stupidly criticized Ilhan Omar... but I'm not connecting the dosts from there to this video. So unless I'm missing something, getting on her for this massacre doesn't make much sense right now.
If you don't see how Clinton's "as an American" bullshit served to other Omar and perpetuate the idea that Muslim immigrants are invading outsiders or lesser which is also the crux of the kind of hatred that fuelled yesterday's horror then you need to get your eyes checked
The greater context is that it was at a vigil for the dead from a terrorist attack.
Not a good look.
OK I checked and that was an edit, my bad. Also, I realised the internet detective rules were mostly about original research and doxxing.
Please explain. I feel like I've entered bizzaro world. If a mass shooting were to happen and there were anti-gun protesters at the vigil, I doubt there would be this pearl clutching about "bad looks".
"This isn't the place for politics"
"You're just trying to politicize this tragedy!"
"Keep your voice down!"
This should sound familiar to people.
It isn't. They're expressing anger at the target closest to them. And that's fine, I don't think they need an especially valid point to do so. The media however is shirking the responsibility to allow justifiably angry people to be angry and instead they're framing it to attack progressives. It's not surprising to me it's just kinda gross.
They were making her uncomfortable by pinning a terrorist attack on her shoulders than started yelling at her for daring to be sorry. When all she was doing in the video was apologising. They could have ignored her, or spoken calmly afterward when tempers were less volatile and not on camera, instead they did this.
I'd say this counts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment
They might have had less blowback had this been a heated argument on both sides, but all Chelsea did was meekly apologise.
Is this "the media" or people arguing online about Hillary and Bernie still.
Because the only outlets carrying this story as of now are far right outlets who exclusively post garbage.
It was either this story or obsessive coverage of transgender women in high school winning minor events in minor sports.
Maybe CNN or someone will carry this in the morning, but most of the conversation is just between blue check marks who have no media presence yelling at each other in another proxy war.
Chelsea is a unlikeable person so I can't really be bothered to show her much sympathy. Tell me, did she in the end comment on the disgusting GOP display likening Ilhan Omar to a 9/11 terrorist? If she did not, that tells me everything I need to know about her in regards to islamophobia.
I don't think a vigil for the dead is a place for someone to shout at someone else about an unrelated matter, no.
Chelsea has nothing to do with this attack.
Reads like an Onion article almost. Good reminder that people are often stupid and grow out of bad views.
Not sure what present-day Chelsea has to do with the NZ shooting.
Nice job adopting those Republican strategies.
Which could have been avoided had they not put it on camera themselves and put it in the internet. They wanted attention for this, they got it.
Having a valid point is badly needed for context in media like this, but even if I agreed they failed in coming off as sympathetic, but understandable, as they went over board with their antics and how Chelsea was harmless during the whole ordeal. They inadvertently gave the media footage of progressives bullying a white pregnant lady who happened to be Hillary Clinton's daughter. Whatever their motives are, this will do the opposite of what they desired. The media will do what the media will do, that's why it's important not to give them something which will blow up in your face, which this will likely do because they didn't frame it in their favour.
I don't see anything about the disgusting islamophobic GOP display?
What strategies?
I'm not American, but frankly I have no idea what you're talking about in regards to my post.
Because I disagree with how and where this played out?
Pretty broad and all encompassing strategy by the GOP then.
I mean that wiki quote just proved it wasn't. They have their voices raised, sure, but that's to be expected.
She doesn't look upset, nothing they said was demeaning or discriminatory. The girl wasn't threatening Chelsea either. Their intent wasn't to humiliate her but to call her out on her recklessness.
Am I missing anything else? Harassment is a goddamn stretch. The exchange lasted no time whatsoever. Chelsea refused to argue back and they left.
I don't think she posted about it, but she may not have seen it since it was a small state West Virginia thing. She probably wouldn't be very positive towards it since she and Omar have a working relationship it seems like.
Overall this (referring to the Clinton-NYU thing) was a pretty minor event all around so there's a lot of wasted energy but not sure what this energy should be used for... Feels kind of hopeless for stopping white supremacist terror attacks right now.
Not sure what to argue about that would be constructive.
Oh look. Both Chelsea and Ilhan being way more gracious and understanding of one another than the fool in that video and people trying to defend that awful behavior in this thread.
That's a hell of an excuse for her. The West Virginia thing made national god damned news
A lot of posters are only here because they get to shit on Chelsea Clinton.
It's straight out of the Republican playbook to be obtuse and act naive. The criticisms about Chelsea and how she fed into Islamophobic narratives has already been pointed out. She isn't free from responsibility simply because she "had nothing to do with the attack".
Saying Chelsea Clinton had nothing to do with a right wing terrorist attack is a Republican strategy?
She's still framing Ilhan's remarks as if there were wrong and needed apologizing for. Ilhan's smartly going along since she doesn't want Shumer and Pelosi to draft another bill meant to silence her.
Nomis post reads like they're unhappy about how Clinton threw Omar under the bus recently.
"She felt entitled to go to a vigil she was invited to" is... I don't know.
I feel like it would be pretty rude to not go to a vigil you were invited to?
I feel like it would be pretty rude to not go to a vigil you were invited to?
The denial of Chelsea's throwing Omar under the bus on page one....oof.
I wouldn't at all blame her for this situation but the lengths she's being defended over those comments....alrighty then.
And the same poster is comparing the left wing with neonazis....alrighty then.
I wouldn't at all blame her for this situation but the lengths she's being defended over those comments....alrighty then.
And the same poster is comparing the left wing with neonazis....alrighty then.
She doesn't have to have anything to do with the attack to be called out for contributing to an Islamophobic narrative. It's not rocket science. Would it be nice if everyone was always polite? Sure, but sometimes this is what you have to do in order to be heard, especially when you feel like your voice is being drowned out.
What Chelsea did to Ilhan Omar on Twitter because Omar criticized Israel was classic Islamophobic BS. The Muslim community here is fed up with that.
That said, The person who confronted her went way too far and just looks crazy. That is not how you get your point across.
But I have no problem with our community pointing out the hypocrites who peddle islamiphobia and then want to show up for the photo ops in these situations.
That said, The person who confronted her went way too far and just looks crazy. That is not how you get your point across.
But I have no problem with our community pointing out the hypocrites who peddle islamiphobia and then want to show up for the photo ops in these situations.
The real story would be if she DIDN'T go after being invited. Imagine how that would play out. I mean, people are going to spin, but she made the right choice going for sure. Had she not gone, the spin would be 10x worse.
The Bernie supporter too though. The two posts saying this thread is really a meta about a Clinton and a Bernie supporter are 100% right. And Im going to bet this is a nice little lense into what ERA is going to slowly become leading up to 2020. This shit IMO is getting more than a little ridiculous. Completely unrelated stuff is drug into a proxy meta fight. Just ridiculous.
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