Getting away with shit by openly admitting to breaking the rules stopped working for me in 3rd grade.
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Chief Of Staff Mick Mulvaney publicly acknowledges there was a quid pro quo with Ukraine: "We do that all the time. Get over it."
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He just misspoke. Don't blow it out of proportion, can happen to the best of us.
C'mon, this is at LEAST deserving of a half-smirk.
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He just misspoke. Don't blow it out of proportion, can happen to the best of us.
If they get any real blowback from this, they'll just say it was misunderstood. This admin gets more mulligans than Trump does golfing.
Edit: wow, he already did.
Edit: wow, he already did.
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I would ask what kind of Mickey Mouse operation Trump has going on in the White House, but I would actually kill to have Mickey Mouse as president right now.
And yes, I know he's a not real. A fucking drawing of Mickey Mouse would be a better president right now...
I love when something is blatantly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, like for example it was stated on national television for all to see, and right wing pundits still try to put their spin on it...
That's Byron York, formerly of the National Review, "Chief political correspondent Washington Examiner, Fox News contributor, author of The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy"
That's Byron York, formerly of the National Review, "Chief political correspondent Washington Examiner, Fox News contributor, author of The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy"
Jason Campbell@JasonSCampbell
Laura Ingraham blames Mick Mulvaney's disastrous press conference today on the fact that he's not a lawyer.
Actually, Mulvaney received his JD from UNC Chapel Hill in 1992
10:37 PM - Oct 17, 2019
Laura Ingraham blames Mick Mulvaney's disastrous press conference today on the fact that he's not a lawyer.
Actually, Mulvaney received his JD from UNC Chapel Hill in 1992
10:37 PM - Oct 17, 2019
Have to say, I have never seen someone call a huge pile of shit a woman before. First time for everything I guess.
The closed depositions and witnesses actually complying with the subpoenas and their stupidity has run their ship aground.
The only place where quid pro quo happens on the regular and in a systemic way is in the intelligence community, where there's constant bartering with allied or neutral foreign services about pieces of intelligence. "You tell me what you know about X and we'll tell you what we know about Y", that kind of stuff. Most allied nations have an actual quid pro quo department specifically for this purpose. In a charitable reading, Mulvaney could be confusing the international intelligence 'marketplace' with US diplomacy.
But then again, Occam's razor suggests he's an incompetent ass.
But then again, Occam's razor suggests he's an incompetent ass.
Also the investigation is using the presidents own lawyer a Person outside the government as its primary contact not the already setup investigation departments the government has in place. Like having Batman on the government pay roll.
4. every single republican : "it doesn't matter what crimes were committed as long as our team did it"
Well... thanks for this imagery, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
If only there was a way they could create a role for someone specifically trained to "brief" the press on the official White House position on the topics of the day. Some kind of secretary that talks to them in regular intervals, creating a sense of familiarity, community, and transparency.
Yep. He's confusing using aid money as leverage for US interests versus using aid money as leverage for Trump's interests
LOL, somebody offscreen quickly waved Perry off and told him to walk that back ASAP! You can see the moment this happens as he stammers and pauses for a few seconds.
It's worth noting that when the Watergate investigation was at its highest and Nixon looked very, VERY guilty the attitude among his supporters dudn't change much. They went from "he didn't do it" to "so what? The democrats will ruin the country so it's totally justified to break the law".
the same is happening here.
the same is happening here.
That's what happens when you fire anyone says no to you and surround yourself with yes men. That's why the transcript was put out like that, they are so dumb they don't know their the bad guys.
"Hold on. I didn't say quid pro quo. I said squid pro whoa. Did you see that squid's skills at Fortnite?"
Except this time there's a right-wing media ecosystem to keep jittery senators firmly in line.
Hey now! I take exception to the first sentence.
That said, this will be successfully walked back amongst those who are die-hard Trump supporters, but there's no way in hell it works for anyone else.
Cute, attempting to legitimize what Trump's done with what Biden did. Biden did no such thing.
While Biden was VP, a multilateral initiative was underway to combat Ukrainian corruption, and the withholding of funds (of which the U.S. was only a part of) were contingent upon that reform. General prosecutor Shokin, criticized for failing to hold to account corrupt individuals from the previous regime, was already facing mounting pressure to resign on various fronts. Trump, in the transcript, (unsurprisingly) speaks highly of him. He stated this in light of the EU, the U.S.'s (amongst others) years past indictment of Shokin, who was apparently so corrupt that his deputy general prosecutor Vitaliy Kasko resigned in 2016 in protest from all of it occurring under his watch.
Curious that Trump seemed entirely unconcerned about corruption when the corrupt suddenly became the means to serve Trump's best interest in being able to procure dirt to use against his most likely prospective political opponent. It's not surprising Trump claimed him a "good and fair prosecutor" that got treated "very unfairly", because if he paints Shokin in high esteem and a man of integrity instead, then the potency of the false narrative of Shokin being let go exclusively due to Biden's actions to protect his son is stronger and paints Biden in a much worse light. Sadly for him, Shokin isn't the golden boy that Trump's hoping for as he was condemned on numerous fronts for letting corruption fly, and pressured to leave by numerous people.
Now they are attempting to frame Trump's actions as similar to Bidens in withholding aid to combat corruption when:
1) Trump refers to Shokin on more than one occasion in the transcript as an upstanding guy.
2) As such, if he's so concerned with corruption, why did he excuse it when it served his own interests?
3) Crowdstrike has been thoroughly debunked as a conspiracy theory over and again, so that is a 100% groundless fallback when they attempt to deny this quid pro quo wasn't about Biden but instead investigating corruption.
While Biden was VP, a multilateral initiative was underway to combat Ukrainian corruption, and the withholding of funds (of which the U.S. was only a part of) were contingent upon that reform. General prosecutor Shokin, criticized for failing to hold to account corrupt individuals from the previous regime, was already facing mounting pressure to resign on various fronts. Trump, in the transcript, (unsurprisingly) speaks highly of him. He stated this in light of the EU, the U.S.'s (amongst others) years past indictment of Shokin, who was apparently so corrupt that his deputy general prosecutor Vitaliy Kasko resigned in 2016 in protest from all of it occurring under his watch.
Curious that Trump seemed entirely unconcerned about corruption when the corrupt suddenly became the means to serve Trump's best interest in being able to procure dirt to use against his most likely prospective political opponent. It's not surprising Trump claimed him a "good and fair prosecutor" that got treated "very unfairly", because if he paints Shokin in high esteem and a man of integrity instead, then the potency of the false narrative of Shokin being let go exclusively due to Biden's actions to protect his son is stronger and paints Biden in a much worse light. Sadly for him, Shokin isn't the golden boy that Trump's hoping for as he was condemned on numerous fronts for letting corruption fly, and pressured to leave by numerous people.
Now they are attempting to frame Trump's actions as similar to Bidens in withholding aid to combat corruption when:
1) Trump refers to Shokin on more than one occasion in the transcript as an upstanding guy.
2) As such, if he's so concerned with corruption, why did he excuse it when it served his own interests?
3) Crowdstrike has been thoroughly debunked as a conspiracy theory over and again, so that is a 100% groundless fallback when they attempt to deny this quid pro quo wasn't about Biden but instead investigating corruption.
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They don't "get to", they just have no shame making shirts that say "I shat myself!"
"Get to" as in there are no negative consequences. Just increased fundraising.
What I mean is, they believe both things at the same time: first, that Trump didn't do anything wrong, and second, that he did do something wrong (or that would be wrong if someone else did it), but so what, fuck you, libs.
Republicans do this with everything. Their "logic" starts with "we're right", and connects backwards from there. No contradiction, even if it's with one of their (supposedly) deepest-held beliefs can change that conclusion, and multiple paths to reach it don't faze them in the slightest.
Well, hopefully there will be some negative consequences, beyond getting badmouthed. But based on history, they will fall far short of fitting the crimes.