Oh well, I'm all for people exposing their inner thoughts. Since that fellow seems to have a lot of things to say, I'm willing to open my ears and listen to what they might have to say.
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Children of Morta dev receives court summon (from the government of Iran) over the game not complying with Islamic rules
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Oh well, I'm all for people exposing their inner thoughts. Since that fellow seems to have a lot of things to say, I'm willing to open my ears and listen to what they might have to say.
"Dark humor"
More like "trashy humor". Jokes no matter how "dark" they are do not belong in a serious and sensitive situation that has no space for jokes.
Oh well, I'm all for people exposing their inner thoughts. Since that fellow seems to have a lot of things to say, I'm willing to open my ears and listen to what they might have to say.
Their inner thoughts are already crystal clear, like he's shouting it with a megaphone, lol.
Absolutely terrible to hear. I'm shocked that it took this long for either the US government to take their publishers to court, as they made Garshasp and its sequel when US sanctions banned business with the country, or Iran's government to try something like this because they worked in some heavy fantasy elements in all their games that could easily run afoul of religious hardliners.
Hopefully this court appearance is more to intimidate than punish because it could be bad if it's the latter.
Will be looking into grabbing the the game later today, for what little a show of support i can provide by doing so.
Hopefully this court appearance is more to intimidate than punish because it could be bad if it's the latter.
Will be looking into grabbing the the game later today, for what little a show of support i can provide by doing so.
Leave this country with that trash government and medieval rules if they're still there (which I don't hope). If not I guess they better not get back EVER.
Totally love this game.
Totally love this game.
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Come on man, do I really need a sarcasm tag after a comment like that?
Children of Morta is a fantastic game and these devs are super talented. I really hope they stay safe.
Unless they're US citizens they will have to go back to Iran to deal with visa business. So they can't just ignore this.
Damn, just yesterday I wanted to get the game but opted for Slay the Spire, but it's definitely in my wish list. I hope they can get a political refugee status.
I hope something happens in Iran, since Khomeini they have been in a reverse spiral that is holding back the country. I wish for a peaceful revolution but don't know if it's possible, the Islamic regime had the support of a lot of lower levels of society, at least back in the '70.
I hope something happens in Iran, since Khomeini they have been in a reverse spiral that is holding back the country. I wish for a peaceful revolution but don't know if it's possible, the Islamic regime had the support of a lot of lower levels of society, at least back in the '70.
Wow, I just got this game a few days ago and have been loving it. Reading through the thread, I'm kind of confused on what the actual situation is. But I really hope everything turns out alright.
Oh no I hope they can come out of this relatively unscathed. It's fucked that this is even an issue in the first place.
They are a talented group and I wish them all the best.
They are a talented group and I wish them all the best.
Just going by what a person posted on the first page.
This is so fucked. Imagine if every game released in the United States had to strictly adhere to the scripture of the bible. Fucking lunacy.
Judging by their tweets they are clearly in Iran.
And just as I feared it seems like the international attention is putting the devs in more trouble :(
It's not gonna be peaceful. In the last few months at least 300 people have been killed in protest with the opposition saying over 600 have already died.
I hope the devs and their family are save and stay save.
So literally Iran making a big deal about it is causing the devs to get in more trouble with Iran. Amazing, sound logic from the magical land of religion and theocracy.
The cruelty is the point. Sharia courts do this to make an example of people to intimidate others. The point is to create a culture of fear so the next "offender" will be too afraid to try.
They deleted the original tweet and made a new one saying that they should deal with their problems themselves and within the country.
Judging by the responses it's obvious that they were told to do so.
Judging by the responses it's obvious that they were told to do so.
10% have hijab and praising Allah?
I hope the developers are save (i.e. not in Iran).
Seeing that "bigot" is "one who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc." I think Lego Killer Moth 's concern is warranted.
They desire a different result, but "death to all religion" ain't it. More than 4/5 of the world is religious.
A lack of hijab? The characters were vaguely white and the setting is a semi-generic Tolkien world. Didn´t they have Old Testament sounding names too?
Clearly this was too western/christian, not islamic enough for whomever is going after them
This moral relativism is nice and all, but being intolerant towards intolerance is not really the biggest issue. This thread is a very poor place to be taking this stance, considering, it's about people being persecuted on religious grounds, by an authority that is able to assign the death penalty.
Based upon the contributions in this in this thread (particularly when I asked earlier what the potential penalty/charges would be), it would seem that prison or fines are more likely than the extreme; prison was also the sentence assigned to the women who were protesting hijab during fall 2019.
This isn't a question of moral relativism. Being arrested for developing a video game is not something I would advocate as a just law. I, like some other users, are concerned about moral hypocrisy, especially when it involves throwing every known religion under the bus because of one (or any number of) specific instance of injustice, while ignoring the good that religion provides, like a sense of community or belonging. In other words, I'd rather this thread not be an open invitation for veiled Islamophobia.
Again, I'm not the only person who has expressed discomfort on commenting because they didn't want to come off as hateful. I myself try to learn from those individuals who are attuned to their feelings. Being more of a "thought" person, I'm just putting those feelings to words. That is why my first post was a question: what happens now? Because I'm not trying to judge something I know little of.
How does throwing every religion under the bus track with islamophobia? If posters are saying every religion is bad, not specifically islam, how do you make the leap to them being specifically bigoted against islam instead of just being against religion?
Also, "yeah but religion provides some good" is kind of no-true-scotsmaning the issue here. It's like going into a thread about police brutality and going "yeah but cops are good sometimes too". It's very insensitive to the situation at hand.
As a person who has lived under a fundamentalist islamist regime, it doesn't matter if in this case they won't likely apply more extreme penalties. Like I've said in this thread, the cruelty and fear is the point. It's not that they will apply extreme measures, it's that they can. The point is to deter anyone who would dare upset the regime and make an example of anyone who catches their attention. This isn't a legal court. It's a religious court, which means the judge can apply whatever verdict he (not "they", "he", because women can't hold these positions) wants. The point is to be arbitrary and cruel and terrorizing.
Looks like the case was dismissed?
Iran-based Developer Summoned to Court Over Children of Morta
Update: Since the article was originally published 11-Bit Studios has responded to our inquiry with a public statement about the summons.
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Better source.
Sorry, apparently, the second source is a banned source.