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LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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As much as I dislike the nex tax, I don't see much extra alternatives if the government keeps up this level of spending due to the policies of gratuity, and now stuff like potentially improving pensions.

Either we're taxes increase and social spending increases or vice versa.
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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As much as I dislike the nex tax, I don't see much extra alternatives if the government keeps up this level of spending due to the policies of gratuity, and now stuff like potentially improving pensions.

Either we're taxes increase and social spending increases or vice versa.
Increasing taxes in other areas?

I mean, it's not a vital area so it's obvious that is an OK target, but ultimately you're putting a tax on every consumer no matter it's income when you can tax bigger companies and stuff.

yeah I know, it wont happen, never, not here.
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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And by the way companies work, if you tax any production or service, they will transfer that to the final consumers.

I hate tax increases as much as any other, but taxing big corporations means they simply will transfer the tax to us however they can. Netflix, Spotify and others are non essential stuff - if you tax retail, you can bet they will simply increase the final prices all over the stuff they sell so they keep the same margin while the final customer eats the tax hike.

We're screwed either way.
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Guys, I'll switch to chilean mode


Estoy ahorrando para comprar una GPU y finalmente darle el toque que le falta a mi pc (I7-4770). Mi presupuesto rondará los 180k, pero necesito también una fuente de poder. Hasta el momento veo la promo de SPDigital, la 1050ti + fuente en 180k, ahora el tema es que viendo en la red, sería mucho mejor tirarse por una tarjeta que rinda más. En este caso la RX470 tiene mejor rendimiento, o idealmente sería la 1060 de 3gb que me daría mejor rendimiento por mas tiempo.

El tema es que esas dos tarjetas o estan agotadas nuevas, o está fuera del presupuesto (tendría que subirme 50 lucas por la 1060 mas la fuente, todo nuevo). Por lo tanto ahora sería ver la opción de una usada, ¿que tan buena idea es? La RX470 la he pillado entre 130 a 140 lucas usada, con varios meses de uso, ¿influirá mucho?

Para la 1060 de 3gb usada tendría que estirar unas lucas, pero no sería tanto drama, igual mientras junto estoy atento por si sale alguna oferta o alguna weá de baja de precio.

Dato igual importante, es que pretendo pagar lo que se pueda y dar lo demas con tarjeta de creito (o en su defecto, comprarlo con tarjeta y dar la plata pa pagar la cuota al toque lo que mas se pueda)

¿Que me recomiendan?
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yo te diría que ahorres un poco y te vayas por la 1060 nueva. Hay varias GPUs dando vuelta, usadas, que las usaron en la minería de criptomonedas y están reventadas.

Esas generalmente no salen en oferta, pero es lo mejor creo yo.

Si el presupuesto no va a alcanzar, busca una usada pero en un portal confiable, no mercado libre.
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Cierto, al parecer no es muy buena idea a pesar de que es buena tarjeta.

Voy a tener que volver a la calculadora no mas xD
 

LunaSerena

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Yo prefiero las tarjetas Nvidia sobre las AMD, la mayoría de los juegos viene configurada para esas.

Ademas, el sistema de las AMD es demasiado webeado para mi XD
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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La verdad igual preferiría una Nvidia, pero dado que la RX470 tenia mejor performance me estaba inclinando ahí... considerando precios, quizas me quede con la 1050ti xD Pero estaré viendo, me queda algo de tiempo de ahorro además

¿Que portal es bueno para cotizar usados? Además de chw
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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El único que te puedo recomendar es justamente CHW, y es porque igual son bien claros en el área de compra-venta.

Igual, podrías esperar un poco y ver si eventualmente con el anuncio de las nuevas GPU de Nvidia bajan un poco de precio
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Pretendo comprarla de aquí a octubre, asi que igual es buen tiempo. Las nuevas salen pal 20, pero no creo que influyan en la gama media
 

LunaSerena

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Yo creo que la 1060 algo puede bajar de precio, por último para empezar a bajar el stock ya que la 1070 y la 1080 ya empiezan a quedar "viejas".

Y en otro tema totalmente aparte, quedan menos de dos semanas para el 18. Al fin!
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Tengo pedido los dos dias, me tomare la semana completa y me voy pal suuure con mi polola. Estoy terrible ansioso, hacen falta esas vacaciones
 

Serpens007

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https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nacional/chile/2018/09/11/pinera-nuestra-democracia-no-termino-el-11-de-septiembre-de-1973-venia-enferma-de-antes.shtml

Fuck this bullshit. "Both sides"

Esa wea de "el golpe fue malo peeeeeeeeeeero allende tambien" ctm. La democracia si tuvo una muerte súbita. Como si Allende se hubiese quedado en el poder cuando debia entregarlo, como si hubiese hecho elecciones fraudulentas, etc.

Y mas encima llamando a no dividir el pais, ctm. Gente culia también que sigue defendiendo la Dictradura (y los bots también)

EDIT: Aqui esta la bosta completa: http://impresa.elmercurio.com/Pages/NewsDetail.aspx?dt=2018-09-11&dtB=11-09-2018 0:00:00&PaginaId=2&bodyid=1
 
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NHarmonic.

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Oct 27, 2017
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https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nacional/chile/2018/09/11/pinera-nuestra-democracia-no-termino-el-11-de-septiembre-de-1973-venia-enferma-de-antes.shtml

Fuck this bullshit. "Both sides"

Esa wea de "el golpe fue malo peeeeeeeeeeero allende tambien" ctm. La democracia si tuvo una muerte súbita. Como si Allende se hubiese quedado en el poder cuando debia entregarlo, como si hubiese hecho elecciones fraudulentas, etc.

Y mas encima llamando a no dividir el pais, ctm. Gente culia también que sigue defendiendo la Dictradura (y los bots también)

EDIT: Aqui esta la bosta completa: http://impresa.elmercurio.com/Pages/NewsDetail.aspx?dt=2018-09-11&dtB=11-09-2018 0:00:00&PaginaId=2&bodyid=1
El mercurio sigue siendo mierda. Los comentarios de emol son como para cortarse los cocos de la estupidez.
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Guys, someone's selling me for a really good price a Zotac Mini 1060 6gb, does it look in good shape?




Says it's 6 months of usage, I'd say prob a bit more, but it's tempting me
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Whats up guys? Feliz 18! Was on my way to parque ohiggins last night but just ended up outside the metro buying terremotos a mil from street vendors instead of paying 5 thousand to enter the fonda and pay triple for booze and food inside. All laws go out the window this time of year. Feels like mad max around centro santiago. Stay safe and have fun all!
 

Javier

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Oct 27, 2017
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Feliz 18 a todos, disfruten de estas festividades curaos, con cantidades industriales de carne, pero siempre en un ambiente buena onda!

 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Yeah, what a useless case lol

But it will give both countries reasons to change their conflict into something else to boost polls, I look foward to that heh
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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It was just a bloody waste of money since Evo Morales wanted to make us the scapegoats to impulse his reelection campaign, and I certainly hope he loses.

I'm glad that they didn't force us to sit down and negotiate, though!
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Yeah but Piñera is also going to get a boost in popularity in the middle of the Quintero Emergency and other issues. Both govs were going to have something. It' was useless otherwise

Even if we had to negotiate, treatys states that Peru has a say so it was even more useless
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mean to offend, but the popularity boost means nothing when he's still in the first year of his government, and with minority in the Congress. It won't have a big impact on the long term.

And personally, I'm do believe theories written by academics that postule that Bolivia doesn't want territory to the north of Arica, that limits with Peru - their songs do backup that theory. They want the II region, the territory that was once theirs, and not exactly for the sea but for the resources that you can find there. But, in any case, it doesn't truly matters now, does it?

I do find annoying, though, that he's going to keep bothering and making headlines, and all the money spent in this process - which was a lot - should have been spent on internal issues, not on having to hire lawyers for something that was finished a century ago.
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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I don't mean to offend, but the popularity boost means nothing when he's still in the first year of his government, and with minority in the Congress. It won't have a big impact on the long term.

And personally, I'm do believe theories written by academics that postule that Bolivia doesn't want territory to the north of Arica, that limits with Peru - their songs do backup that theory. They want the II region, the territory that was once theirs, and not exactly for the sea but for the resources that you can find there. But, in any case, it doesn't truly matters now, does it?

I do find annoying, though, that he's going to keep bothering and making headlines, and all the money spent in this process - which was a lot - should have been spent on internal issues, not on having to hire lawyers for something that was finished a century ago.
By Peru having a saying I mean that they have an actual say since the treaty is basically a three-way where one can't take back if the other doesn't want. Peru will not want to stop limiting with Chile also. So Bolivia basically will never get what it wants, unless they form another alliance

Everything is pointless, the treaty is set in stone
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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By Peru having a saying I mean that they have an actual say since the treaty is basically a three-way where one can't take back if the other doesn't want. Peru will not want to stop limiting with Chile also. So Bolivia basically will never get what it wants, unless they form another alliance

Everything is pointless, the treaty is set in stone
I totally agree with that Serpens. I simply think that an exit through the limit with Peru and Chile - what the Charaña treaty said - isn't what Bolivia wants. They outright want back Antofagasta. Chile won't budge, meaning we're back to status quo and Bolivia probably suing us in another hundred years or so, which is kind of a problem since it is a big expense, even if the chances of them getting a "solution" are basically null.

It's annoying.
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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I saw a Sony Hi-Fi portable audio player with 25% off. It's an intro level device, and I've been keeping my eye on it since my poor old MP3 is dying and it doesn't have enough space.
I think I'll give myself a little treat.

Remember to use Knasta and Solotodo to compare prices!
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Alcance a cerrar las ventanas de mi pieza justo, la lluvia estaba de lado. Duró poco lo fuerte si, despues ya es una wea normal, somos exagerados los santiaguinos
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yo justo iba saliendo del metro cuando vino lo fuerte... me agarre la peor parte y ni siquiera llevaba paraguas.
 

Ostinatto

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Oct 30, 2017
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Le estoy ayudando a entender como tildar a mi sobrina, y a reconocer diptongos e hiatos,

El repaso me ayudo mucho a refrescar la memoria, y sobretodo lo del hiato que que se debe tildar cuando este ocurre, como ejemplo,
Valparaíso , VAL PA RA I SO,

entre RA e I , entre estas 2 silabas, existe una vocal fuerte A y una vocal débil I, por tanto hiato, perfecto.

Y el Diptongo, ocurre cuando en la misma silaba, hay 2 vocales seguidas, Fuerte y débil o débil y fuerte , como ejemplo
Ciencia , CIEN CIA, - I+E en la primera silaba e I+A en la segunda.

Ahora la pregunta, Sirve para algo saber reconocer los diptongos? ayudan para mejorar la ortografía o algo?
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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Si mal no me acuerdo, la presencia de un hiato siempre indica que debe ir una tilde, así que por ese lado ayuda.
Aparte de eso... Una vez que salí del colegio nunca lo volví a ver.
 

Ostinatto

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Oct 30, 2017
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Si mal no me acuerdo, la presencia de un hiato siempre indica que debe ir una tilde, así que por ese lado ayuda.
Aparte de eso... Una vez que salí del colegio nunca lo volví a ver.
Si, lo del Hiato lo entiendo, pero parece que diptongo no tiene ninguna función actualmente, espero estar equivocado.
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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Eh, honestamente creo que no tienen ninguna función a menos que quieras empezar a armar poesía, y que los versos rimen entre si.
 

LunaSerena

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Pc Factory is the biggest retail store dedicated to that.
SP Digital also has good prices (I've never bought there though) but their delivery service sucks from what I've read, if you Shop with them, go to their office in Providencia.
And that's it unless you start looking at small hardware store like the ones in San Diego.
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Any suggestions for where to buy a decent SSD? Is PC factory the only big PC parts chain here in Chile? Looking online they seem to have the cheapest prices if you pay in cash. Trying to find a 240gb to 480gb cheapish but good quality drive to put into my laptop.

Thoughts on this one? https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/30967-unidad-ssd-480gb-3d-bx500-sata3-2-5-

Crucial/Samsung/WD are brands I have had in the past and trust.
I'll buy this weekend the 120gb Crucial SSD that's on PC Express, a Persa Bio Bio store that's super good. SPDigital is also pretty good. I bought my HyperX Headster a couple of years ago, but I went directly to their office in Providencia.

Just look at prices and stores here:

https://www.solotodo.com/solid_state_drives?sizes=532961

240gb start at like 35 lucas
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks guys. I think I will go with 240gb since I barely even use 200gb on my current 1TB HDD.

I checked out SPdigital and solotodo and PC Factory seems like their prices are very competitive so I may just stick with them considering they are everywhere in Santiago.

I think I may go with Crucial since I can get a 240gb for 30 lucas.
 

NHarmonic.

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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Pc factory automatically reminds me of those guys sleeping outside for that sale they do each year, lmao.
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd love to get some things from that sale at that price. The SNES Mini was at 30 lucas and the PS4 was extremely cheap too.

Plus I'd upgrade my notebook's memory.