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Chris Rock new skit materials: "...won't hire women; 'They cry rape for money'"
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User was warned: finding rape jokes offensive doesn't make one a "snowflake", and your repeated emphasis on "lying" women is disgusting. Stop.
No I didn't. I just posted that some women do cry rape for revenge and/or money (factual truth) and I posted a very true case that's very close to home.
The limits of "what's accepted as jokes" in our society. Yes, some people do get offended and their feelings hurt but so what? People are so fragile today it's almost funny. "Oh, I got offended. I need my safe space before I melt away."
I'm with comedian Jimmy Carr on this one. People who get offended by jokes should grow up. I'm overweight and I hear jokes about being overwight from comedians but I don't care because I'm not a snowflake.
You should be able to joke about anything.
He's a comedian trying out new material. He's not on a gamergate twitter crusade.
With the right delivery, the idea of a paranoid schmuck jumping through a million ridiculous hoops to try to shield himself from false accusations could be funny. Either the delivery was subpar, the audience thought it as in poor taste, or both. It happens. Also would be nice if there were a video so that we could see the delivery. The account of what he said was I'm sure very paraphrased. And in the broader sense, if a comedian makes it his or her mission not to ever offend ANYONE EVER, they wouldn't be very funny.
With the right delivery, the idea of a paranoid schmuck jumping through a million ridiculous hoops to try to shield himself from false accusations could be funny. Either the delivery was subpar, the audience thought it as in poor taste, or both. It happens. Also would be nice if there were a video so that we could see the delivery. The account of what he said was I'm sure very paraphrased. And in the broader sense, if a comedian makes it his or her mission not to ever offend ANYONE EVER, they wouldn't be very funny.
Timing is fine. Joke needs to be reworked. Comedians try shit all the time and sometimes it bombs horribly. Ask lewis, Seinfeld etc. Even Rock himself.
I fully agree, I just think the people saying there is no possible way to joke about rape and be funny are missing the mark.
It's an extremely volatile topic but that's what most comedians aim for. How you execute the joke is the key differentiator between what Chris is dealing with and how Chappelle's joke came across, both generally about the topic of rape.
Thanks for this I was about to type out something similar.
That being said I think the joke was in poor taste, but definitely seems to fit his style of comedy.
Chappelle and Rock have both made murder, AIDs and centuries of oppression and suffering funny.
I don't know why this particular topic is off limits. I'm sure some people have personal reasons and experiences that justify such but it comes off as an arbitrary rule.
It's not off limits. It's that it sounds like it wasn't funny and was built off a shaky premise. This post is a concise breakdown of why it doesn't work:
I was referring more to overall. Rape has always been more off-limits than any other subject.
Also, my problem with that problem of yours is that such things have in fact happened before and could very well happen with the current scandal.
This has nothing to do with people being snowflakes. That term is so dismissive and gross.
Sure maybe jokes are a bastion, but even then you should be able to understand why people are upset by them.
Do you think you'd find a joke about a dead baby funny if you had just lost your own?
People are angry, hurt, traumatised because of sexual assault. The #metoo campaign just brought all of this to light, probably dredging up a lot of painful memories for survivors of assault and their loved ones, Chris is an idiot to think this joke would fly.
Sure maybe jokes are a bastion, but even then you should be able to understand why people are upset by them.
Do you think you'd find a joke about a dead baby funny if you had just lost your own?
People are angry, hurt, traumatised because of sexual assault. The #metoo campaign just brought all of this to light, probably dredging up a lot of painful memories for survivors of assault and their loved ones, Chris is an idiot to think this joke would fly.
Terrible joke, but I agree in this current climate it's fair to be worried about false accusations.
I really need to see this in the context of the show. Chapelle was able to make that Cosby joke work but his dumb trans jokes were as bad as they originally seemed. Sometimes there really the comedy completely falls apart and when offensive comedy isn't funny or making a point it comes across horribly
That something happens doe not mean it happens regularly, often, or even infrequently.
While this thread initially debated both the gravity of sexual abuse and rape and whether or not comedians should be allowed to joke about this, it has since steered off that subject and we are locking the thread as a result. Please note that we continue to welcome any serious debate on the matter of abuse in future threads, but do not make a new thread on Chris Rock unless new news are revealed.
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