It all depends who's it happening too. That's always been the answer. Just look at elections and what people will defend/attack depending what side they're on.
Chris Rock, Ricky Gervais and Louis CK casually using the N word. Seinfield abstains. (Clip from 2011)
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I thought it was more the former. Seinfeld has fully transitioned to cranky old man. In the clip he can't seem to accept that it's possible that maybe his "gay king" joke wasn't funny (as opposed to offensive). Must be that these kids are too PC.
Well yeah it's a discussion forum that's how these things work.
Yet you have some difficulty understanding that, but then again what you have to say about what black people can and can't do is pretty irrelevant.
What's happening, exactly?
Some alt-right folks disingenuously brought up tweets Gunn had apologized for years prior with the aim of getting him fired. Is there anything similar at all happening right now, or are people just remembering an old clip, reexamining it, and having a discussion?
This is a pretty weird exchange for a message board with thousands of users. You can do whatever you want and I'll respond in whatever way I see fit.
That's all any of us are really doing here.
I am not black but I have a hard time being mad at Chris for being caught off guard in the heat of the moment and on camera. Not sure I like how this is framed as him giving them a pass. This is entirely on Gervais and CK.
If he's white then he'd say nikka I haven't heard him sa.... Heh
If you are not black, it doesn’t really matter what you think Chris Rock can or can’t do when it comes to “nigger”. but by all means continue.
Ok?
If you want to actually engage with what I'm saying that makes sense, but just replying "your opinion is irrelevant" is a pretty weird flex tbh.
I don't think Chris is too concerned about what you think either.
I did respond to you giving Chris Rock permission when comes to "nigger" if you're not black what you think about what Rock is doing is quite irrelevant.
When did I comment on what Chris should or should be doing?
Just so we're clear, I wrote "if you are not black" not "if you are white" you've had trouble confusing the two in the past so I just wanted to make perfectly clear before you spew more nonsense.
Are we acquainted? Is there something I'm supposed to be remembering right now?
If you think your thoughts on some shit Chris Rock did or didn't say on an HBO special almost a decade ago are more relevant than mine then knock yourself out. I'm not gonna presume to tell a black person what to think or not think about someone saying that word in their presence.
Thankfully we are not. You seemed to quite acquainted with me when thought I was some sort of conductor of purity tests. Memory must be shit, huh?
As I am black and you seem not to be, what you of Rock's opinion on nigger is absolute less relevant than mine. You are completely divorced from the negativity of it's use so you marching in here giving Rock permission on what he can do with the word is irrelevant.
Whatever it was, let it go mate.
He doesn't need my permission or yours. You don't know what his life experience is. You can disapprove of his behaviour if you like but I'm quite certain that suggesting it was Louis and Ricky who committed the greater transgression here is not an outlandish proposition.
You're puffing up because I said that 2 white dudes saying that word in front of a black dude were in the wrong.
Nah, I'll bring the nonsense you've posted whenever I like.
You were the only one trying to give permission. Did I comment on what you said about the two white dude saying nigger? I commented on you attempting to give permission to Rock as if your input mattered. Amusing that you dropped the whole "My opinion about nigger is just a relevant as yours." nonsense. Not black huh?
my initial thought was, "hey, at least jerry didn't say the n-word"
what an awful timeline 2018 is
what an awful timeline 2018 is
Yup. I’m a black dude and I was like nah I’m good with gervais and CK when I saw this back in 2011
I don't get Ricky Gervais, he's not funny.
CK had moments but he had way too much creep material in his arsenal which confirmed his true creep self later on.
Chris Rock used to be funny on SNL but his stand-up was never great, Chris over explains his jokes and does a lot of word repetition which isn't necessary.
Jerry is a class act
CK had moments but he had way too much creep material in his arsenal which confirmed his true creep self later on.
Chris Rock used to be funny on SNL but his stand-up was never great, Chris over explains his jokes and does a lot of word repetition which isn't necessary.
Jerry is a class act
Ok. I guess you got me. Glad it added something to the discussion.
Sorry you're not making a whole lot of sense. If you think me saying "Chris Rock can think what he wants on this particular topic" is giving the permission he neither wants nor needs, and you've got a problem with that, then that's ok.
The crux of my post is that 2 white dudes saying that word in front of a black dude seems to be a worse transgression than the black dude tolerating it.
Now I don't really know if you agree or disagree with that statement, seeing as you instead just tried to hone in on the part of my post you could simply dismiss because of my race.
Honestly I'm also black and agree with the guy that the two whites dudes saying nigger is far worse than Chris Rock doing it and I find it disturbing Chris Rock is the only one trending for this shit.
Same shit different day.
Your initial post about what Rock could do when it comes to nigger was unnecessary if you wanted to talk about the two white dudes that's fine.
If you are not black I will dismiss any and all opinions you have on what black people do when it comes to "nigger/nigga".
I never commented on what was or wasn't worse.
I mean it's crux of that person's arguement. I mean it's trabsparent as fuck. Even in this thread we're mainly talking about Chris rock rather than the two white dudes saying the n-word. Ricky Gervais is still a beloved comedian in places like the UK but Chris Rock makes the news...
My responses to Benita aren't about what Rock did or didn't do wrong. My responses have been about his comment about what a black person can or can't do when it comes to nigger.
Trust me, I know who is worse in this video. Rock isn't blameless but the two white dude deserve most of the smoke,
Agreed
Louis ck and Ricky fucked up here. It was stupid. Good for Seinfeld
Did you only read half the post or what?
I could give a fuck if you want to dismiss my opinion but it seems a really strange way to make your only contribution to the thread.
I read and responded to what I wanted to, isn't that how message boards work?
Good for you, you want a pat on the head? I also discussed other things in this thread but my responses to your nonsense was about one thing,
Yeah, his lookalike did an okay job, at least to start.
Obviously not the same guy, but he had a good go.
Worth noting that Eddie Murphy apologized for being homophobic back in 1996.
https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/PAGE-ONE-After-15-Years-Actor-Apologizes-For-2982557.php
They work better when you respond to the topic at hand but you do you.
Also your previous reply suggests you didn't see me talking about Louis and Ricky so, you know, best to be clear.
This is another weird reply. Nah I'm ok without your validation, I'm just suggesting it's odd for your only contribution to the thread being to ignore both the topic at hand, and the overall point of my post, to instead cherry pick the statement you feel comfortable dismissing because of my race.
No, I can respond to anything find idiotic on a message board if it inside the thread. You posted, I responded to it. Should I dumb it down further for you?
As I stated before, this is not the only thing I posted in this thread, but it most certainly is the only I responded to you about.
Poor you, how dare I not care what someone who isn't black has to say about nigger and its use.
Oof.
Gervais is an unbearable embarrassment. Seinfeld remains a class act. Calls the joke lame and tries to derive humour from a different source, unfortunately he’s surrounded by desperation.
Eh, there are more than a few posts in this thread suggesting my post was pretty on the money. But you didn't like it so that's cool.
Sorry mate, I've explained quite a few times that I'm not really upset if you think my opinion that:
1. white people shouldn't say the word and;
2. a black man is well within his rights to decide for himself what he thinks about it being said in his presence;
is irrelevant.
It is kinda weird that you would have any issue whatsoever with those 2 statements though.
Im waiting for the day where trump uses the n word and half of america has an excuse to use that word.. god i miss the days of political correctness
There are white Mexicans (unless you’re suggesting he is indigenous Mexican).
Good for them.
1. Did I comment on what you said about the two white men at all?
2. What you think about what a black man should or shouldn't be doing is irrelevant. I have stated that multiple times.
You keep bringing up me dismissing your opinion about nigger because you are not black so you're a little upset.
I responded to the initial post of you trying to dismiss black people criticizing Rock about him allowing white people to say it around him.
Who is this directed at exactly? Non-black people or the black people who have issue with what he was doing in the video?
You're not black so you dismissing criticism from black people directed at Rock is not your place.
All I see in the video is that Chris Rock feels VERY bothered when he mentions it. You can see his face completely change and then he will drink water every 10 to 20 seconds in a very nervous manner.
Seinfeld saved the day.
Seinfeld saved the day.
Mate my post wasn't for you. I don't care if you don't think my opinion is relevant. You don't speak for all black people. You don't speak for anyone else on this forum. You don't speak for Chris Rock.
You speak for you and you only.
You're also the only person who has replied to me a dozen times over 3 hours explaining just how much you don't care about half of my post so who's upset?
Well that's where you went wrong. I wasn't "dismissing black people". That's your own projection.
What I did was express surprise that Rock was copping more heat than Gervais and Louis. Given the fact that you also think their behaviour was worse than Rock's, I'm still bemused that you're continuing with this weird "dismissal" argument.
I'm just directing it at "people". I'm not making presumptions about people's races so It's just as much my "place" to respond to people as it is yours.