citizen stopped ICE from arresting 2 undocumented immigrants because he knew his rights

Zej

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Oct 25, 2017
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Citizen... or Executive Director of Local Immigrant Rights Group.

Good on him, but it's not like a rando person would know the warrant distinction.
 

voOsh

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Apr 5, 2018
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It's so depressing how they kept pressuring him even though he clearly knew the law. I try to be responsible and know my rights but this is the dude's profession basically. I feel like myself and most people would just get owned by ICE here and that makes me sad.

Also if that isn't a warrant, how is it legal for the agent to say it is? That's fucked up and deceptive.
 

gutshot

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's so depressing how they kept pressuring him even though he clearly knew the law. I try to be responsible and know my rights but this is the dude's profession basically. I feel like myself and most people would just get owned by ICE here and that makes me sad.

Also if that isn't a warrant, how is it legal for the agent to say it is? That's fucked up and deceptive.
It is a warrant, but it is an ICE warrant, not a court-issued warrant. The video notes that an ICE warrant allows officers to arrest an undocumented immigrant, but they can't demand access to private property to do so (in this case, the guy's personal vehicle).

"Immigration officers may not enter your home unless they have a “warrant.” A warrant is a document issued by a court or government agency. There are two types of warrant — one for when they are coming to arrest you, and another for when they have permission from a judge tosearch your home. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) can issue arrest warrants, but only a court can issue a search warrant."

Source: https://www.nilc.org/get-involved/c...ur-rights/imm_enfrcmt_homework_rts_2008-05-2/
 

SliceSabre

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Oct 25, 2017
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If that lawyer wasn't on his way I have no doubt they would have found a way to justify whooping his ass for making a fool of them. Fuck ICE.
 

Mahonay

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Oct 25, 2017
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FUCK ICE

Happy he was able to outwit these fucks. Sadly the average person wouldn’t have the wherewithal this guy did. Most of us would probably be screwed in this situation not knowing what to do.
 
Feb 1, 2018
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The driver mostly got away with this because he's white passing. A POC would likely have been forced out of the car, or worse.

He's a hero. Extremely brave to stand up to ICE thugs like that. We need more people like him to fight for immigrant rights.
 

Advance_Alarm

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Dec 4, 2017
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Hopefully the DOJ accredited immigration representative program he mentioned gets more visibility. It's shit that people can go through immigration proceedings and no lawyer is provided.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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It is a warrant, but it is an ICE warrant, not a court-issued warrant. The video notes that an ICE warrant allows officers to arrest an undocumented immigrant, but they can't demand access to private property to do so (in this case, the guy's personal vehicle).

"Immigration officers may not enter your home unless they have a “warrant.” A warrant is a document issued by a court or government agency. There are two types of warrant — one for when they are coming to arrest you, and another for when they have permission from a judge tosearch your home. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) can issue arrest warrants, but only a court can issue a search warrant."

Source: https://www.nilc.org/get-involved/c...ur-rights/imm_enfrcmt_homework_rts_2008-05-2/
Good to know thanks.
 

LuckyHit

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Oct 27, 2017
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"An individual interfered with the enforcement action, causing officers to instead depart the scene to avoid further disruption."
- ICE

That's crazy, I thought these guys going to court for a traffic violation were a National Emergency. They can't just leave them alone! /s
 

Ivan2Nguyen

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Oct 25, 2017
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The driver mostly got away with this because he's white passing. A POC would likely have been forced out of the car, or worse.

He's a hero. Extremely brave to stand up to ICE thugs like that. We need more people like him to fight for immigrant rights.
This is part of a new practice that ICE is using to round up people coming out of a court house. He identified himself as an advocate and had a lawyer on speaker. ICE was just being salty. I don't think it would have played out differently if the guy was darker skinned.
 

Verelios

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Oct 26, 2017
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ICE are a bunch of jokes. You can tell they were reading from a script and when that didn't work went onto try a power play. Scum.
 

Reinhard

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Oct 27, 2017
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I applaud this guy, too bad most people won't have this information available or would give in to the intimidation tactics.

Anyone who works for ICE deserves cancer or any other horrible disease/life outcome. It's like people who worked for the Gestapo, they'll want to claim they weren't in charge and just following orders.
 

captive

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Oct 25, 2017
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its too bad more people don't know their rights and instead we're taught to do whatever an officer says whenever they say it no matter what.
 

GodofWine

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Oct 26, 2017
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Can't they just follow him, and wait for the people to get out of the car?

All I can hear in my head after watching that is JayZ reciting his lines in 99 Problems...'You gonna need a warrant for that'