Posted directly by 2K Games representative.
Firaxis Community Representative also explains why no plans for online multiplayer:
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Civilization VI for Switch confirmed to get Hot Seat Mode in a future update; lack of online MP explained
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Posted directly by 2K Games representative.
Firaxis Community Representative also explains why no plans for online multiplayer:
I never play Civ multiplayer so I'm fine with things as they are. It sounds like a bummer it won't get online for those that do care about that, though.
Always wanted to give this game a try on the Switch, seems like a good time to dive in. Worth nothing that is on sale until 8/11, too.
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Does the Switch version have expansion parity with the other versions? I'm undecided whether this is the version I want to jump in on and am curious if content has been regularly releasing for this one.
Currently, no. But they've said they intend to release both expansions by the end of the year, so in the next few months they'll be on par.
Lack of sale for me until they decide it's worth the effort to implement multiplayer. I live 10 hours away from my friends and my laptop is booty.
iOS just got xp1 for $30
They have already confirmed xp1 and xp2 is coming to Switch and the goal is to launch both this year. Probably as a $60 game with the base included
Glad to hear about hotseat being added and why online mp is missing on mobile and Switch
Their PC online multiplayer is bad enough with its constant desyncing. Couldn't imagine how bad it'd be on Nintendo's service.
That's because civ is mostly a SP game. There is a MP community who play but they probably just do p2p lan which is equivalent to local wireless on switch.
Also the the social aspects of Civ like the hall of fame games are SP affairs with people playing on the same map and settings and submitting their high scores to the organizers
I've got thousands of hours into each Civ game since 2, so I'm aware. I still enjoy playing Civ 6 multiplayer at work with a coworker, but the longer the game goes on, the more annoying it gets with the constant desync issues. Get to medieval era and it has to essentially reload every turn.
The performance isn't that bad; it's far better than the iOS versions, for example
The expansions are due by the end of the year
It's not just Nintendo, they apparently don't have the capacity to implement online for any non-Steam version (they also mention iOS and Mac as having no online for this reason).
As someone who wasn't gonna bother with online but wanted local hotseat matches with friends, this is great news!
I wonder how the system will be able to handle the switching of players tho. I assume no fog of war (because it'd be kinda pointless anyway)
I wonder how the system will be able to handle the switching of players tho. I assume no fog of war (because it'd be kinda pointless anyway)
More like their online is built on the back of Steamworks, and they don't want to rebuild it (which is why it is missing on OS X and iOS as well).
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Hmm, it seems the developers don't want to implement custom implementations for the back-end, and this is why even the mobile offerings don't have online multiplayer.
Same room I think, the other sound like the classic play by email. That was the old times :-)
I interpret it as they don't have their own infrastructure/backend and uses Steam. So all systems that is not using steam does not have online.
Right. One would expect an actual gaming company like Nintendo to have the back end in place to allow this to function without significant custom solutions being required. I don't think anyone expects or cares about that in the mobile arena, particularly for a game like Civ.
It seems more like their online is integrally built using SteamWorks, and anything that doesn't use that (i.e. every non-Steam version of the game) is simply getting no online mode. Not just iOS, they also explicitly cite the OS X version.
Between the Switch and iPad Pro 2018 version which one would have better performance?
Trying to decide which platform to buy it on.
Ah ok. Then not sure where all these "lol thanks bad Switch online" posts are about. Once the game comes to other platforms and if they add online then yeah that'll add validity to those statements.
Uhhh, my iPad Pro is 2017, and Civ VI runs well on that, but Switch does far better (though I have had more crashes on the Switch version than the iPad).
Both versions are great, honestly. You can't go wrong with either. I do surprisingly love the controller controls on Switch, for what it's worth, I imagined I'd go touch only, but I prefer the buttons.
In general, Nintendo has not earned the benefit of the doubtwith online, but yeah, in this case, this thread is full of multiple clarifications (I myself have posted one multiple times), it seems like people are just ignoring that.
That's not how I read it. They say they rely on Steam and Steamworks because it provides everything they need for the back end and online services out of the box(citing some specific examples). None of the other stores/systems support everything they require up front, and would therefore require them to build their own solution, thus they don't support online for those versions.
To me, the fact that they say they know the Switch has these systems, but would require separate custom implementation suggests that their online is built integrally on SteamWorks, and any non-Steam version of the game needs too much custom work for the online to be rebuilt.
I think you are right. Sigh.... asynchronous would be amazing, haha.
Thanks everybody! You may have just sold me the Switch version, lol
Yeah. I'm sure even with the Switch's bad online it doesn't do any favors but ya'know.
Hot seat was a glaring omission and I'll get some play time out of it. Shame about online mp but props to the devs for being open about it.
Switch port had a lot of work out in it mostly on the controller interface which is essentialy custom made for Switch as there are no other console ports, and is awesome. But the core of the game is still the original iOS port (plus animated leaders missing on iOS) so missing hotseat isn't glaring in that sense as it's the same game on mobile devices.
That Switch sales exceeded expectations , 2K/Aspyr likely saw an opportunity to sell more units. And with lots of people asking for hotseat support, it made sense to add it in. I have a feeling the xpacs plus patches that come out for it and the base game.in the coming months will be more Switch specific rather than just porting what iOS got.
Also not advertised is the fact you can play a game on PC, save to the 2K cloud and pick it up on Switch.
This was added in April and Im not sure if iOS got it yet.
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Interesting.... Even I wasn't aware of the save transferring feature from Switch to PC, as well as the reverse being true.
They said the Switch only has some of those systems, which is true. They theoretically should be about to get private games without much issue with Nintendo's API, unless it's written in such a way that removing it from SteamWorks is difficult (which is the implication).
However, I believe Nintendo is straight up missing some features, mainly related to public games. Their provided matchmaking is pretty basic from what I understand.
You could always save to the 2K cloud since launch (see my OT) but at the time it was just a replacement for the Nintendo cloud. I did notice I could see my PC cloud saves on Switch but the game crashes when I tried loading
The April patch finally made it official and allowed.for true cross platform save support on both platforms
It's a very neat feature to be sure to be able to play saves between your PC and Switch. Right now the support is limited the base game. The addition of both expansions meas more saves would be available
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I finally picked up this game last week (because of this thread. Ty OP) and have been having a blast. My frd who has put many hundreds of hours into Civ 6 is going to show me the ropes next week.