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Claims of biased media coverage on Bernie Sanders from his top campaign advisors
- Thread starter Troast
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George Bush didn't have to directly call CNN, MNSBC, and Fox for them to toe the line on war with Iraq.
Or many careerist media staff like keeping employment opportunities open, regardless of where they currently work. The lion share of opportunity is corporate.
Ah, and I assume this demonstration means agreeing. I wouldn't hold your breath.
Wow, you are so obviously biased towards Bernie. Here are the facts: Bernie ran for president in 2016, meaning he only laid out the groundwork 29 years in advance. That 33 year figure is so obviously manufactured, and everyone here can see through your attempts at normalising this conniving, Trumpian demagogue.
From the bottom of this article:
"We know that's not what he meant"
Wow, I'm pretty sure I've never heard those words uttered about Bernie in the media...ever. Biden's gotta be pretty happy to have MSNBC go to bat for him like that.
From the bottom of this article:
lol
Lmao. This debacle writes itself.
From the bottom of this article:
I'm not sure if this clip is in that video but it's pretty incredible. They love them some Biden:
I give myself 3.5 pinnochios for comparing bananas to pineapples.
Bernie seems like a great guy, the level of consistency is admirable. It's crazy to think that my parents were 10 when this released.
If Biden is elected president, I guess we know which press members are getting front row seats during WH press briefings!
This is 50% funny, 50% depressing that the same issues still haunt us 32 years later.
Cosign all of this.
It's frustrating to see them pick this as the media narrative to hang their hat on. I just don't see media antagonism and doubling down on your base as the best move.
You forget, the root has become far more neoliberal over the years. They were the ones saying anyone who attacked Obama or Biden's policy going into this election were "automatically shut out of the black vote"
So your going to ignore literally everything posted around you?
He should be roasted for the glass stegal repeal, but the bailout was a good idea.
Do you have an actual thoughtout point you'd like to say orrrrrr?
No, he should be roasted for the bailout. because it was just a give away no strings attached to the banks for wrecking our economy with their own hands. Bernie had the right idea. He wanted to actually have the institutions responsible for their illegal behavior to pay for that as recompense for saving them. Like investing a percentage of money they make into actually helping society like they should be doing in exchange for being saved and not this derivatives gambling nonsense they are still doing even 11 years after the fact.
I am saying, you should actually look at what people are saying about this story, other stories and recognize that its an artificial controversy to deflect away from the real issue at hand.
Not bailing out wall street would have hurt regular people, not rich people, especially anyone near retirement. Pension funds would have been wrecked. . And Wall Street paid it back. It wss good progressive policy. Better policy would have had strings, but realistically we had do to it.
I don't understand how this is artificial, maybe the media outrage about it is artificial. But, saying that the mainstream media is biased specifically against them because of who owns it is very much the current campaign strategy they're going with. It's something they want to talk about. That's the narrative they want to lean into right now.
It's a bad move. Bernie clearly benefitted from the not-Hillary vote which is now split. He needs to make his message more appealing, not blame the press.
This story is not the focus of the campaign. Just look at the totality of their social media engagement in the last 24 hours; this doesn't even put a dent into what they're focusing on, nor does it reflect what's being talked about outside of the media outrage.
Today's Cardi B interview with Bernie has more focus than this story, and that's just a fraction of what they've been talking about since this story broke.
They paid back the trillions of dollars they got from the fed without any strings attatched? news to me. The point is not to let them go under and hurt regular people, its to destroy too big to fail, and disincentivize horrible behavior which we still have not done.
It was to stop such a thing from ever happening again, which we didnt do. We just went and saved them because of course we did.
They did, with (low) interest.
I agree with the rest of your post.
I totally forgot that we already went over this recently lol
Anyone have a link to the thread about this one?
:l i guess we are at am impasse, atleast you agree with most of my points. Let's leave that particular thread there
Sorry, I'm not sure if there was a thread, I meant "we" in a broader sense lol.
Yeah, but when you look at David Sirota's twitter feed and the Newsletter they're sending out today. I think it's content shows it's very much something they want to talk about and focus on to a degree. When Bernie said what he said, it's very difficult for me to think he did it without knowing that it would be a fairly major news story for his campaign (even if it is just random media outrage).
What's the impasse? We agree banks ought to have had restrictions put on them or broken up. Are you saying the bailout, which saved the assets of a huge amount of middle class people, was wrong?
If there wasn't a thread made about that article, I'd be very surprised.
Oh, they're definitely adapting to the narrative, I just disagree that it's the focus, as I actively follow the campaign's activities, press releases, and emails. Even on the subreddit, it's not a dominant discussion there at all.
I dont think the bailout was wrong in itself. i think that it should NOT have been done without proper safeguards and incentives as a haggling measure in the position of weakness the banks were in at that time. We're talking about a once in a lifetime chance where lobbyists would be on the backfoot against securing pretty much anything in exchange, and we got essentially nothing besides some people losing less than they otherwise would have and the banks getting off scott free to continue their corrupt activities
Well, I agree on that too. I just think you can't roast Biden on his vote for it. It was a net good.
I wish you could, as Biden is only ahaed of Gabbard and Yang for me (and they don't really count). As I have said, all the stuff people exaggerated about Clinton is actually true of Biden. I really hope he tanks soon.
I wish you could, as Biden is only ahaed of Gabbard and Yang for me (and they don't really count). As I have said, all the stuff people exaggerated about Clinton is actually true of Biden. I really hope he tanks soon.
Sure. I agree with that. I don't think it's the focus, but I do think it's a narrative they're leaning into, which is just me restating what you've already said.
Maybe the media is ultra sensitive to criticism because they know they have systemic biases that stem from:
Inherent bias from editors that live and work within the upper class liberal political sphere
Trying to keep powerful politicians happy to ensure access
Being careful not to anger big money corporate advertisers
Hosting opinions across the political spectrum without evolving the idea of the political spectrum since the 2000's
And having a general ethos of moderacy = neutrality
All working together to create a hostile environment for people who challenge the political and cultural establishment from which they derive and benefit from.
That or the left is just a bunch of whiny babies who get butthurt every time someone says something mean about their candidate.
Inherent bias from editors that live and work within the upper class liberal political sphere
Trying to keep powerful politicians happy to ensure access
Being careful not to anger big money corporate advertisers
Hosting opinions across the political spectrum without evolving the idea of the political spectrum since the 2000's
And having a general ethos of moderacy = neutrality
All working together to create a hostile environment for people who challenge the political and cultural establishment from which they derive and benefit from.
That or the left is just a bunch of whiny babies who get butthurt every time someone says something mean about their candidate.
Or maybe a little of both
I think we can, because there were people who were talking about this exact same thing at the time, and they were ignored by the people who wanted to treat the thieves who crashed our economy with kid gloves.
In Biden's case, the people who he directly allowed to commit the crime through deregulation under Clinton. And the entire neoliberal wing of the Democratic party at that time.
Hit him for Glass-Stegal then. Hit him on 4he bailout and he just can say how he saved people's pensions.
When did the bailout vote happen? Was he elected VP yet?
You gotta love the tossed off "none of the voters I talk to care about any of this" comments. Who the fuck do you all talk to on a daily basis? Chatting up a lot of Walmart greeters and bodega cashiers, are you?
That "Glass-Steagal caused the '08 Crash!" meme just won't die, huh.
There's plenty of stuff to knock Biden for on economics like the bankruptcy changes. Glass-Steagal and the bailouts aren't it.
It contributed to institutions getting too big. It's not the cause of the balloon or collapse though.
Yeah, I don't deny that and we're pretty much saying the same thing.